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McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:19:35 2018

Attorney General Jeff Sessions has fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, less than two days before he was to retire, as he became eligible for his pension.

That is petty as hell. They couldn't let him go with his hard-earned pension?

The purge continues.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 16 22:27:28 2018, in response to McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:19:35 2018.

I agree.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:37:29 2018, in response to McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:19:35 2018.

Andrew McCabe's press statement. His words say more about what is happening to our government, than McCabe realizes.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 16 22:39:21 2018, in response to McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:19:35 2018.

Seriously? He left in January. This is stupid and vindictive. I hope he sues and gets his full pension.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 22:42:58 2018, in response to McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:19:35 2018.

They couldn't let him go with his hard-earned pension?

No one can clarify what the pension issue is. He was born 5/5/1968, so it's not as though he was fired 2 days short of his 55th birthday, or anything like that.

I've never heard of any pension system where being fired for reasons other than work-related criminality gives you a different pension from quitting. And I don't see why terminating employment on 3/16/2018 should be any different from 3/18/2018 when your birthday is 5/5.



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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:49:56 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 22:42:58 2018.

Trump himself Tweeted about the countdown to McCabe's pension eligibility, back in December. The President knew full well what he was going to do to McCabe, months ago.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Mar 16 22:54:44 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:49:56 2018.

Yep...the countdown started after he called Trump a moron.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:58:39 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Mar 16 22:54:44 2018.

I believe it was former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who called Trump a "moron", not McCabe.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by FtGreeneG on Fri Mar 16 23:28:41 2018, in response to McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:19:35 2018.

Damn thats more than petty that's straight up cutthroat.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Mar 17 00:13:04 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 16 22:42:58 2018.

His birthday is 3/18/68

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 17 02:51:00 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Mar 17 00:13:04 2018.

Ah, I see. The internet lied to me. :)


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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 17 03:06:07 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Mar 17 00:13:04 2018.

Aha. Early retirement at age 50 with 20 years of service is possible in case of involuntary separation from service.

Page 7.

Now he has to wait until age 60.


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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 17 04:09:36 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 16 22:39:21 2018.

Happy #caturday bingbong.

I'd never know the name McCabe if he wasn't fired by Trump.

Notice Trump likes to fuck with people on a Friday. That pattern is clear.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 17 04:17:45 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 17 04:09:36 2018.

I'd never know the name McCabe if he wasn't fired by Trump.

He wasn't fired by Trump.


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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 09:07:13 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 17 04:17:45 2018.

Technically, yes. He was fired by Jeff Sessions, under orders for trump.

This is a reallyreallyreallyreallyreally Yuge mistake.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 09:12:57 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 17 03:06:07 2018.

Actually, if he can squeeze a book out of this, he,lol be fine. That being said, trump would have done himeself a favor if he had negotiated silence in exchange for letting his retirement slip through.

A Yuge mistake was made yesterday at 10:20PM ET. This isn't going to go away.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Mar 17 09:18:08 2018, in response to McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:19:35 2018.

I'm sure there are plenty of people in the permanent government that have something on Trump.

The firing is a message from Trump to all of these people. He has raised the ante to these people for shooting their wad and not taking down the target (Trump).

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 17 09:21:51 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Mar 17 09:18:08 2018.

I agree that McCabe's firing was a very public demonstration of Trump's power. However, continuing to piss off the FBI won't end well for Trump, either.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 17 09:32:52 2018, in response to McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:19:35 2018.

I agree. They easily could waited a couple of days and let the man retire with dignity.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 17 09:37:24 2018, in response to McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 16 22:19:35 2018.

yes iawtlp.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 09:40:42 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 09:07:13 2018.

No, you fucking mental midget. He was fired based on a recommendation by the FBI OFFICE OF PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITY for ethics lapses during some investigations. Look up "ethics" and get back to me.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 09:47:50 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 17 09:32:52 2018.

Why. He was corrupt, mired in corruption. At the FBI, every agent knows the consequences for that lack of candor. McCabe, Strzok, Page and ??? all were banking on the fact that if Hillary were elected, none of this would have come to light. These bad actors are now being exposed. Dominoe will fall in short order. It's called accountability.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Mar 17 10:00:21 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 09:40:42 2018.

But why the rush to fire him when it could be done less than 48 hours later without making an iota of difference on existing cases and he would at least maintain his pension?

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:13:52 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Mar 17 10:00:21 2018.

I don't know. Perhaps the FBI OFFICE OF PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITY recommendation to punish him in this way had something to do with it. I don't share the opinion of the majority here on this point but it is what it is.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 17 10:15:04 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 09:40:42 2018.

No, McCabe was the target of a political vendetta against him, by Trump. Trump himself Tweeted, back in December, that McCabe was "racing the clock to retirement ".

Oh, and those "ethics lapses"? Pure moonshine. A convenient "excuse", and an easy way to cow anyone else who dares to even think about putting loyalty to country andconstitution, over loyalty to Trump.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 17 10:16:22 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:13:52 2018.

Oh, the OPR is completely immune to political interference? I'm sure you believe that.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:29:48 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Mar 17 10:00:21 2018.

In rethinking my response, based on the IG investigation into the McCabe, Strzok, Page "secret society", the efforts of these 3 and possibly others to influence an election and now to destroy the administration duly elected, why would you think that McCabe earned said pension? The exposure of the conflict of interest between McCabe and the DNC and the Clinton campaign related to McCabe's wife running for office in Virginia also played a part in the decision. Given the financial support his wife received from Clinton & the DNC, McCabe simply should have recused himself from any investigation related to Hillary. In my opinion, that level of corruption is grounds to deny him part of his pension.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 17 10:32:24 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:29:48 2018.

Please go take that tinfoil hat off. It doesn't do you any good.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:33:05 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 17 10:15:04 2018.

As I said, I disagree with your partisan ethics. I don't intend to waste my time arguing the point with a wall.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:33:32 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 17 10:16:22 2018.

Yes

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Mar 17 10:34:17 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:13:52 2018.

They recommend termination, not a specific timeframe to do it

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:37:53 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 17 10:32:24 2018.

Wow, the tin foil hat insult. Now I'm totally crushed. Why don't you discuss this with people who agree with you and spare yourself any more stress. If you want to do something constructive, why don't you start a "Go Fund Me" page to replace McCabe's pension loss?

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 17 10:38:22 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 09:47:50 2018.

He has yet to be convicted of anything.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:41:31 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Mar 17 10:34:17 2018.

Forgive my ignorance but it seems to me that 25 hours after the firing, McCabe would have been officially retired. Can you fire an employee after they are retired? I think, not.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:42:08 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 17 10:38:22 2018.

Your point being?

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 17 11:06:04 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:42:08 2018.

My point is that could have easily happened to me. I could have been fired 2 days before retirement, and not collect a pension.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 11:09:03 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 09:47:50 2018.

He wasn't in the least. They tried, there was NOTHING illegal in anything Sec Clinton did. Using a private email server was NOT lillegal when she did so. This has been investigated to death. McCabe did nothing wrong. He could not testify about "additional information", as THERE WASN'T ANY.

Get over yourselves. This has book deal written all over it, and if handled swiftly, could be out mid-October. I doubt the republicans would want that.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 11:18:21 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 09:40:42 2018.

That's simply manipulation of the system. This goes straight back to trump.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 11:24:46 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 10:37:53 2018.

Oh for crying out loud, will you listen to yourself? That's RW spew verbatim.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 11:25:24 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 17 11:06:04 2018.

Why would it happen to you. If you know understand the basis of your pension and meet the requirements of the job, if the pension remains solvent, when it's your turn to collect it, you will. However, if you do not perform your duties as expected. If you act in a corrupt way, and that results in your firing before you are eligible for retirement, you will forfeit a portion or all of your pension. Are you suggesting that you've done things that might have resulted in your being fired? I doubt that.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 11:27:37 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 11:18:21 2018.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 11:28:15 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 11:24:46 2018.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 11:29:40 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 11:09:03 2018.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 17 11:30:25 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 11:25:24 2018.

Anyone can make up charges.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 11:33:24 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 11:27:37 2018.

Who the fu*k do you think ordered Sessions to order his firing? Can't say it was such and such office, which was doing nothing about this as they closed up on Fri afternoon for the weekend, This came from above, and it's well known that trump ordered Sessions to initiate this. You cannot escape this

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 17 11:44:25 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 11:25:24 2018.

That ain't necessarily so. I remember one chief the Commissioner had it in for, back in my EMS days. The FC got BITS to trump up charges against the man, that were complete fairy tales. I know that because I was there. They hounded him out of the department just eight months shy of his retirement date, and wouldn't let him put in his papers. The system is wide open to manipulation.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 17 11:45:15 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 11:33:24 2018.

it's well known that trump ordered Sessions to initiate this.

I'm not convinced. It would have been a gross violation of the law for the President to order the firing of a civil service employee. And while Sessions may have unpleasant tastes in what should be law, he seems pretty strongly in favor of adhering to the ones that are there.



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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 12:35:56 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 17 11:30:25 2018.

Yes they can but these were not allegations. These were findings by the FBI's Inspector general.

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 12:40:11 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 17 11:33:24 2018.

Do you have proof of that or are you speaking out of your ass again?

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Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Mar 17 12:46:36 2018, in response to Re: McCabe Fired Just Short Of Pension Eligibility, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 17 11:44:25 2018.

As I understand city pensions, once you are vested, if you are forced to retire or are fired you are still eligible for your pension at your retirement age, albeit at rate reduced by your actual time in service. So while I don't dispute your claim that this individual was forced out, he did not lose his pension and likely collected it 8 months later.

This is hardly the same as the McCabe case where he was not just forced to retire but was fired " for cause."

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