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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - the plot thickens

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 29 15:59:51 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - the plot thickens, posted by SLRT on Wed Nov 29 15:01:33 2017.

NBC's news chairman, Andy Lack, says the network moved swiftly to investigate Lauer, after a staff member came to the HR and Legal departments with "compelling, detailed evidence" that Lauer sexually assaulted her at the Rio Olympics in 2014. She was accompanied by her attorney, who praised NBC's quick action in firing Lauer.

Other news agencies, including the New York Times, were already preparing stories about other sexual incidents involving Lauer, before he was let go at NBC.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - the plot thickens

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 29 16:36:09 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - the plot thickens, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 29 15:59:51 2017.

Now Lauer's goose isn't just cooked, it's burnt to a crisp!

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 29 16:43:11 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 29 10:37:55 2017.

They're not considering the level this is happening at. Megatalent suits run judgments in the millions that stick upon appeal. They're not going to can him without knowing it's airtight.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 29 16:49:08 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 29 10:32:24 2017.

A woman that was in broadcasting gets the truth from other women in broadcasting long before any man on earth would be told. He's a known skank. It's only recently that the climate has warmed to these things coming out, and now they are.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 29 17:15:56 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 29 12:41:22 2017.

bump

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 29 17:16:56 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 29 16:49:08 2017.

LOL. Yeah, I'll buy that.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 29 17:41:08 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 29 12:10:51 2017.

"NBC will have to pay him tens of millions of dollars for breaking his contract. "

Don't be so sure about that now that the level of accusation has risen from harassment to assault. That takes the matter to a criminal level.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 29 18:30:22 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 29 17:15:56 2017.

Who is he and why do you wonder?


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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 29 18:39:39 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 29 18:30:22 2017.

He's Dave Garroway (SP), the first host of the Today Show back in the 50s.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 29 18:56:56 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 29 18:39:39 2017.

OK thanks, half of my questions answered. :)


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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 29 19:02:13 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 29 18:56:56 2017.

What's the other half?

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 29 19:04:55 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 29 19:02:13 2017.

Why do you wonder?


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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 29 19:08:40 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 29 19:04:55 2017.

Well you did say half of your question was answered

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Nov 29 20:15:35 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 29 09:36:42 2017.

Like that Alabama idiot, Roy Moore, this will not be the only accusation against Lauer! Stay tuned!

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 29 20:40:45 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 29 09:36:42 2017.

They didn't panic. They don't do panic management.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 29 21:04:10 2017, in response to NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by Dave on Wed Nov 29 07:24:33 2017.

Many men being accused of serious misbehavior. I wonder how many of those accused of sexual harassment/assault actually did "just grab them by the pussy".

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 29 21:04:50 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 29 17:16:56 2017.

You have to because that's how it's been. Someone like you would never be included in stuff like this....except as a perp.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 29 21:54:34 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 29 21:04:10 2017.

Take it from someone who has been there....most of them have.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 29 22:56:26 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Nov 29 20:15:35 2017.

So this is an unproven accusation?

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer — the plot thickens

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 29 22:57:27 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - the plot thickens, posted by Dave on Wed Nov 29 11:38:59 2017.

Well, if the media self-eviscerates, what will really be missed?

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 29 23:07:45 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 29 21:54:34 2017.

Details, details, details 😋😋😋

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 30 00:25:10 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 29 18:56:56 2017.

I figured that out without cheating. Since the context made it kind of obvious.

Although, I forgot the name “Dave Garroway,” so I would have been able to answer a quarter of your question.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 30 01:13:56 2017, in response to NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by Dave on Wed Nov 29 07:24:33 2017.

I can't believe he would throw $25 million a year down the drain for something like this, just go on an adult website or hire a service and call it a day.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 02:10:36 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 30 01:13:56 2017.

Well, evidently there are an explicit picture and text on the complainant's cell phone.

And also it seems he's been known to be pushing the envelope for a long time. In a 2012 interview, Katie Couric is asked what's the most irritating thing Matt Lauer does, and she says he keeps pinching my ass.

So if he got away with that kind of behavior with his colleagues for long enough, maybe he thought it was safer to go even further.



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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Nov 30 06:47:47 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 29 09:13:05 2017.

The problem is, it's now gotten to the point where all someone has to do is make an elevation and the reflex is fired.
It's gone totally to the extreme.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Nov 30 06:49:44 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 29 09:35:52 2017.

Exactly. It's come to the point where all someone has to do is make an allegation and then there's a knee jerk reaction

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 06:53:58 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Nov 30 06:49:44 2017.

Do you have an example? There are plenty of cases where we obviously don't have enough information, but I'm not aware of a single one where it's become clear the employer overreacted.

Having said that, Garrison Keillor looks like it might be one, but it's too early to tell.



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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - he admits it

Posted by Dave on Thu Nov 30 07:30:46 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - the plot thickens, posted by Dave on Wed Nov 29 11:38:59 2017.

"Some of what is being said about me is untrue or mischaracterized, but there is enough truth is these stories to make me feel embarrassed and ashamed.”

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/30/matt-lauer-issues-statement-after-firing-over-sexual-misconduct-allegations.html

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - he admits it

Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 07:47:36 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - he admits it, posted by Dave on Thu Nov 30 07:30:46 2017.

I haven't seen anyone recently completly deny the allegations so where there's smoke there's fire. Corporations don't do panic firings usually.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 07:55:20 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 30 01:13:56 2017.

Welcome back if you're the real Osmosis Jones

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - he admits it

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 07:58:50 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - he admits it, posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 07:47:36 2017.

Keillor's version of his incident (he accidentally put his hand up her back, and apologized) would not justify his being fired. But then again, his version might not be quite correct either.




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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - he admits it

Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 08:06:11 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - he admits it, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 07:58:50 2017.

One person's friendly is another person's WTF are you doing.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 08:12:22 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Nov 30 06:47:47 2017.

I agree. The burden of proof that the networks are using to fire people is even less than the burden of proof Antifa uses to determine if someone is a Nazi or not!

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Nov 30 08:20:08 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 06:53:58 2017.

Duke lacrosse?

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - he admits it

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 08:28:38 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - he admits it, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 07:58:50 2017.

Yes, I think he's leaving a few aspects of the story out

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - he admits it

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 08:29:09 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer - he admits it, posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 08:06:11 2017.

Of course. Otherwise this whole issue would be a lot less complicated.



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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 08:30:02 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 08:12:22 2017.

How would you know?


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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 08:38:07 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 08:30:02 2017.

He's SS Bill, that's how.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 08:40:41 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 08:38:07 2017.

I find that nickname disturbing. My parents had friends with numbers tattooed on their arms (in fact, one is still alive!).


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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 08:42:04 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 08:40:41 2017.

Ok but Secret Service Bill is more typing.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by bingbong on Thu Nov 30 08:59:14 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 08:40:41 2017.

Understood, and empathized with. Do realize though, in this current climate, just how appropriate calling him that actually is. Consider the qwap he comes up with. Maybe it's supposed to make everyone uncomfortable for a reason. Makes ya think.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 09:03:19 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by bingbong on Thu Nov 30 08:59:14 2017.

No, there is absolutely no comparison between Bill's more authoritarian impulses and the Nazis.



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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 09:11:56 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 08:42:04 2017.

Again, you don't think people on this board have jobs in real life? That makes you look ignorant if you think that I was unemployed my entire adult life.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 09:12:30 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 08:30:02 2017.

Really? Again, tongue in cheek witty statement. Not to be taken prima facie.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 09:13:00 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 09:03:19 2017.

Authoritarian impulses, LOL!

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 09:13:01 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 09:11:56 2017.

How does Secret Service Bill imply unemployment?

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by bingbong on Thu Nov 30 09:17:32 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 30 09:03:19 2017.

Read this, please. You really should.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 09:29:57 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 09:13:01 2017.

It doesn't, but you're cute little nickname implies that you refuse to believe what people say what they do or did for a living.

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 30 09:41:11 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 09:29:57 2017.

What did you do for a living?

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Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Nov 30 10:19:42 2017, in response to Re: NBC fires Matt Lauer, posted by bingbong on Thu Nov 30 09:17:32 2017.

Can I read it too?

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