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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 15 18:11:37 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 17:55:53 2017.

So it's time for the rebel spirit and the glorification of the Confederacy to go away for good.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 18:29:21 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 15 18:11:37 2017.

Says who? But don't you worry, today's Millennials, no matter where they come from, are a bunch of neutered cucks anyway, so it will just go away.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 15 19:47:07 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 17:42:46 2017.

Reality Sucks: When the realization hits you and you come to understand that the promotion that you thought you earned was actually due to your white privilege. (Clear Aspect scowls)

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 15 19:56:47 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 18:29:21 2017.

You say it like it's a bad thing the confederacy goes away. What exactly do you support here?

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 20:04:07 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 15 19:56:47 2017.

There has been no Confederacy since 1865!

I support not meddling in other people's affairs.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 15 20:16:33 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 18:29:21 2017.

They work harder than you ever did. So for neutered cucks they make you look lazy

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 15 20:19:10 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 15 19:47:07 2017.

LOL you just solidified the fact that you have no clue what you are talking about.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 15 20:19:56 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 17:28:02 2017.

You claim youre smart SS bill, so do some thinking, you dumb cuck.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 20:23:01 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 15 20:16:33 2017.

That's a bunch of bullshit! By the time I was 25 years old I was making about $70,000 a year, 1992 money. That's why three to five of them have to live in an apartment as roommates, because none of them could get an apartment on their own.

And one curious fact, you don't know anything about me? You don't know what I have and what I do not have? I have 4 cars between my wife and myself, I own my own house in New York City, I have money in the bank, several life insurance policies, and other amenities that I've worked for. I'm not living in some dinky apartment somewhere. And I'm not even going to touch the responsibilities I had when I was working.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 20:27:24 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 15 20:19:56 2017.

No you going to use my own words? Nobody owes anybody anything!

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 15 20:38:48 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 15 20:19:10 2017.

Denial? Trust me on this one, white man.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 15 20:43:26 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 15 20:38:48 2017.

No dential, you are just talking about of your ass.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 15 20:44:03 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 20:23:01 2017.

Sure SS Bill, you were making “$70,000”

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 15 20:48:32 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 15 20:44:03 2017.

Maybe he was. All the more reason that his expertise on the problems of the poor is zilch.



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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 15 20:58:12 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 15 20:43:26 2017.

You are not my ass, white man. But don't take my word for it. Call the head of your HR Dept. and ask.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 15 21:36:46 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 15 02:50:38 2017.

At least the party of Donald Trump.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 15 21:41:17 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 15 20:58:12 2017.

Again, you cotinue to prove you have 0 clue what you are talking about. Keep trying

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 15 22:45:38 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 15 13:11:49 2017.

None of that was "made up". Face facts and answer my question.

Wilson was president a century ago. That is too long ago to have contemporay impact. Nixon's "southern strategy" IS very relevant WRT our current reality. What about the impact of THAT? It's affecting where we are NOW, not a hundred years ago.



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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 15 22:47:32 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 15 13:43:10 2017.

Stop lying, you sound like trump.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 15 22:53:50 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 17:18:12 2017.

Obviously not yours.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 22:59:18 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 15 22:53:50 2017.

Good!

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 15 23:00:40 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 22:59:18 2017.

Thats bfecause everything you care about ends at you. Fuck everyone else is your mantra,

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 15 23:06:16 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 15 23:00:40 2017.

Fuck em all!!

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 15 23:15:24 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Nov 15 08:35:10 2017.

Well our party is carrying this baggage and it shouldn't. The Republican Party was founded as a conservative anti-slavery party and to me conservative and pro civil rights should not be mutually exclusive. We ARE the party of Lincoln and should do all we can to return to the roots of what became the party of national union, freedom and civil rights. It was the Democrat Party that was the party of just the opposite, retrograde with the likes of Andrew Jackson and Woodrow Wilson. As a conservative party we would still hold onto the South and much of the Midwest, but there is no reason we can't get behind firmly behind civil rights and become champions of minorities instead of being labeled retrograde ourselves by these same groups who we should be trying to win over.....as we once did.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 15 23:22:22 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Nov 15 10:16:59 2017.

Hey Bill, isn't this subchat? I thought the off topic thread was part of it . Truth be told, much of what I read on the regular sub-chat board is kind of dull. It is as if the Sea Beach, Brighton, West End and others of the BMT have gone by the board. I'd like to see some stuff on those lines. BUT.....I will take you up on that and I look forward to coming to New York next Spring to ride the rails and meet up with some of my old buddies who I used to ride with on my previous trips.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 15 23:22:22 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Nov 15 10:16:59 2017.

Hey Bill, isn't this subchat? I thought the off topic thread was part of it . Truth be told, much of what I read on the regular sub-chat board is kind of dull. It is as if the Sea Beach, Brighton, West End and others of the BMT have gone by the board. I'd like to see some stuff on those lines. BUT.....I will take you up on that and I look forward to coming to New York next Spring to ride the rails and meet up with some of my old buddies who I used to ride with on my previous trips.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 15 23:24:40 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 15 23:15:24 2017.

It was founded as a LIBERAL antislavery party.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 15 23:32:48 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 15 23:24:40 2017.

Sorry Spider, not so. When it was founded in Jackson, Michigan and also in Ripon, Wisconsin, the founders were of a mind that their new anti-slavery party was keeping with the finest aspects of conservatism until later on when the term came to mean something entirely different. The fact is you CAN be a conservative and still be solidly behind civil rights, support for a woman's right to choose, to support the aspiration of downtrodden people and to live up to the highest ideals of Abraham Lincoln, Charles Sumner, Thaddeus Stevens, Ben Wade, Zach Chandler and up and through Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 15 23:42:28 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 15 23:00:40 2017.

Condescending post.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 15 23:42:43 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 15 23:32:48 2017.

Those are all liberal principles. Always have been. And back then, liberalism included support for free trade and pro business. Now apparently Trumpist Republicans oppose free trade.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 15 23:53:15 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 15 23:32:48 2017.

The fact is you CAN be a conservative and still … support for a woman's right to choose

So you are a left-winger.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Nov 16 01:37:56 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 15 23:15:24 2017.

We are for civil rights. We are just against addicting the poor to free stuff.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 16 06:50:44 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Nov 16 01:37:56 2017.

People don't seem to remember that drunkenness was encouraged in communist countries; the state dependence was forced. The Dems learned their lessons well, carrying that over to drug abuse.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Nov 16 08:12:01 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 16 06:50:44 2017.

More talking shit out of your ass?

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by Mtk52983 on Thu Nov 16 08:38:41 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 15 23:42:28 2017.

I would normally agree except for the fact that Bill said bingbong was correct (you know what they say about a broken clock!)

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 16 08:44:23 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by Mtk52983 on Thu Nov 16 08:38:41 2017.

But it's true. Bring up poverty and its potentially very bad consequences and Bill's response is, they didn't happen to me so they can't be a big deal.



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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by bingbong on Thu Nov 16 09:08:03 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 16 08:44:23 2017.

Hell, bring up anything and he'll respond like that. Especially healthcare. This is someone that had a civil service job, with benefits and never stepped out of the cocoon.

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Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument

Posted by bingbong on Thu Nov 16 09:11:44 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 15 23:32:48 2017.

Rooselvelt (Theodore, not FDR) and Eisenhower were fully into oppressing women.

That said, you'd be a centrist in today's spectrum.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 16 09:27:49 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 16 08:44:23 2017.

Who said it never happened to me? I was just intelligent enough and had the wherewithal to become a responsible adult and put the past behind me!

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 16 09:28:44 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by bingbong on Thu Nov 16 09:08:03 2017.

Who said I had a civil service job? It sounds like you're making assumptions about me.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by Mtk52983 on Thu Nov 16 09:31:43 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 16 09:28:44 2017.

You were against Con Con because you didn't want your civil service pension touched

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by bingbong on Thu Nov 16 09:48:21 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 16 09:28:44 2017.

You did.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 16 10:16:03 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by Mtk52983 on Thu Nov 16 09:31:43 2017.

The word Civil Service never came out of my mouth. There's a lot more pensions in this state then just Civil Service pensions, just so you know.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 16 10:16:28 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by bingbong on Thu Nov 16 09:48:21 2017.

Are you a seer now?

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 16 10:28:24 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 16 10:16:03 2017.

I know there is, but I seemed to recall you talking about your civil service pension. Although with the number of MTA employees and past employees who post here, I very well could have been mistaken.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 16 10:38:59 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 16 10:28:24 2017.

He has made it very clear that he has a pension from a government agency, almost certainly NYPD. Whether it is literally "civil service" or not has no effect on the post that used that term.


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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Nov 16 10:41:29 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 16 10:28:24 2017.

I'm pretty sure you're right.

I also remember him saying something about losing a $100,000. a yr. pension, SLRT replied to him asking if he had been the mayor.

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 16 11:02:48 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Nov 16 10:41:29 2017.

If he was an executive-grade NYPD officer, say, an inspector or deputy chief, that kind of pension would be plausible.

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Re: #4 Sea Beach Fred's opinion on the destruction of Confederate monuments

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Nov 16 11:27:32 2017, in response to Re: Assholes like Jimmymc25 topple Confederate monument, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Wed Nov 15 23:32:48 2017.

And your opinion of tacking down Confederate statues is?

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Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 16 11:55:29 2017, in response to Re: Vandals topple Confederate monument, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 16 10:28:24 2017.

Actually, I never mention the word civil service. What I did say was I was a public servant

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