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Re: Re : Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 17 21:50:38 2017, in response to Re : Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 17 17:24:26 2017.

In his case, I'd say both. After all, junior was named in the lawsuits, and from his record gong forward his stripes remain the same as his father's.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 18 01:59:22 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Sep 17 21:23:06 2017.

That's not what the post election analysis is showing.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 18 05:36:56 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Sep 17 21:24:00 2017.

That native blood is restless and I'm just not satisfied!

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 18 05:37:35 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 17 21:17:38 2017.

That native blood is restless and I'm just not satisfied!

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 18 05:38:26 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 18 05:36:56 2017.

Sorry, wrong place for this response!

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 07:50:41 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by bingbong on Sun Sep 17 21:17:38 2017.

Your numbers are pretty much a lie. PRESIDENT TRUMP did lose NY County 87% to 10% but that only represented a small sampling of voters. In the other boroughs the result was not nearly as exaggerated as you claim. By the way, how did PRESIDENT TRUMP do in your county. It seems that folks there may not be so "enlightened".

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Sep 18 07:54:15 2017, in response to Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 17 10:14:43 2017.

Questioning the former presidents American Citizen status? Check
Questioning a fellow repubicans ability to run for president due to citizenship? Check

Things that people here on subchat who support trump pretend never happned? Check

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 08:06:06 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 07:50:41 2017.

Not to mention that the same people who voted against Trump also supported candidates who wished we lived in Soviet Union with government control of all property and every aspect of our lives

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Re: Yes, Obama Really IS A Black Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 08:06:38 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Obama Really IS A Black Supremacist, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Sep 17 21:07:59 2017.

In reality most of the federal programs involved relief after 120 to 240 consecutive monthly payments before you were eligible. There was forgiveness for teaching in a disadvantaged neighborhood but only after 5 years so 60 monthly payments had to have been made. Total forgiveness was granted for certain loans in cases of total disability or death of the student.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 08:16:43 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 08:06:06 2017.

Truth be told, apparently bingbong is misinformed about her own enlightened county. In Albany county roughly 74,700 voted for clinton while 44,200 voted for PRESIDENT TRUMP. That figures to be 59% - 35%. Not good but hardly the 9-1 ratio she boasted of.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 18 08:17:16 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 18 01:59:22 2017.

Tell me what it's showing you and I'll tell you what I saw.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 18 08:27:11 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 08:06:06 2017.

I think DeBlasio only supported full government control over real estate in his moronic interview. I don't remember anything about "every aspect of our lives."

Also, 250,000 people voted for deBlasio and 1.97 million voted for Clinton. Seems like quite a difference to me.



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Re: Yes, Obama Really IS A Black Supremacist

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 18 08:29:17 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Obama Really IS A Black Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 08:06:38 2017.

Ok. I don't have loans so I never researched it but I know a few of them had their loans forgiven within the last few years.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 18 08:53:50 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 18 08:17:16 2017.

It's showing the nine to one ratio, and a high number of that was voting against trump, who is well known to NYers. Fact is, we know better than to have allowed this.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 18 08:54:35 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 18 05:37:35 2017.

Seems that may apply to you, and goes no further.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 18 08:57:04 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 08:16:43 2017.

The 9:1 ratio applies to the CITY, not Upstate counties Stop twisting fact into another of your lies.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 09:32:49 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 18 08:57:04 2017.

It's still a lie. It was almost true in Manhattan. None of the other boroughs. Post your numbers and prove me wrong.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 18 09:40:52 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 09:32:49 2017.

Bronx too. In Brooklyn you're down to a near-tie at 6.5 to 1. And of course in every other county the ratios are less.





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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 09:43:35 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 09:32:49 2017.

In fact, let me help you out.

NY County 87% clinton
Bx County 87% clinton
Qu County 75% clinton
Kg County 77% clinton
Ri County 58% TRUMP

Not quite the 9-1 you claim. Care to amend your comment now.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 18 10:11:38 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 18 08:53:50 2017.

Look at Staten Island. Look at south south western Brooklyn. The eastern end of the Bronx. Howard Beach. The west end of Rockaway. Northern queens.
Read between the lines and it's very telling. And those are places that still have families from generations ago living on them therefore they do in fact know who he is.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 10:24:35 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 09:43:35 2017.

Richmond County is a small proportion of the population. It's almost meaningless.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 18 10:26:22 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 09:43:35 2017.

Look at the election map of SI.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 10:28:51 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 18 08:53:50 2017.

No it doesn't. Another instance where you are grossly ignorant of the facts or deliberately drawing a false conclusion. Let's set the numbers aside. You claim that they are a referendum on PRESIDENT TRUMP. Of course, we know this is false. In presidential elections, NYC always. votes demotic by a wide margin. To now try to exploit this fact to prove your ridiculous conclusion that this was a rejection of the man and not the party is either ignorant or dishonest.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 10:32:16 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 10:24:35 2017.

The total numbers for the 5 boroughs, clinton vs Trump still do not come close to the 9:1 ratio claimed by bingbong and the actual ratio does not prove what bingbong claims.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 18 10:33:50 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 10:24:35 2017.

It's not meaningless to ms. bingbong's argument that New Yorkers know trump and wouldn't vote for him.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 18 11:06:02 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 18 10:11:38 2017.

No, they're just outliers. Small pockets of those that align with an astonishingly small (in comparison to the entire population....trump won by 77,000 regionally limited votes, a drop in the bucket) subset that was fooled by trumps rhetoric, hate and lies.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 18 11:12:32 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 18 11:06:02 2017.

In a statistical sense sure they're outliers but if you know the map and the neighborhoods like I do it tells a different story

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 11:30:29 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 18 11:12:32 2017.

You are talking into a dead phone. in the world of bingbong, this is how it works. Where clinton won, it was a reflection of the candidate. Where PRESIDENT TRUMP won, it was the fault of the system.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Sep 18 12:06:59 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 09:43:35 2017.

Considering how small SI is population wise compared to the rest of the boros it's possible(don't know for sure)the ratio can still be 9-1 or close to it. That's 58% of a population of a little more than half million. Equals at most 400,000 votes for Trump from SI. Compared to the 77% of 2.6 million (kings county), 75% of 2.4 million (queens), 87% of 1.5 million of (NY and Bx counties) voting for Clinton.

Staten Island has always been Republican not
unexpected in the least.If one of the other NYC counties went for Trump THAT would have been newsworthy.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 12:13:52 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 10:28:51 2017.

If NYC votes demotic, who votes hieroglyphic?

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 12:18:00 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Sep 18 12:06:59 2017.

It hardly has any effect, given that it's only 6% of the population (might be a different percentage of total votes), and that the numbers are close to 50-50.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 18 12:18:10 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 10:32:16 2017.

9:1 now? LOL, that's as bad as "BMW is moving out of South Carolina".

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Sep 18 12:20:30 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 12:18:00 2017.

Yeah not sure if it's 9-1 (probably not but not far off most likely) but 58% Staten Island either way is a drop in the bucket when added with the rest of NYC totals.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 12:27:26 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Sep 18 12:20:30 2017.

Considering that even the most pro-Hillary boroughs went for her at a less than 8:1 rate, I doubt she took New York City 9:1. Not to mention that New York City is not representative of the state as a whole.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 12:31:54 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 12:27:26 2017.

She didn't take NYC at a 9-1 rate. WABB.

New York City has 43% of the state's population. It's more representative than any single part.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 18 13:23:10 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 12:27:26 2017.

The Bronx went for Clinton/Trump at more than 9 to 1 (88.4 to 9.56).

Manhattan went at almost 9 to 1 (86.36 to 9.87).

The city as a whole was more like 6.5 to 1 (78.59 to 18.4).

Link


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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 18 13:28:24 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 12:31:54 2017.

But of course extreme ratios like even 6.5 to 1 are easily diluted.

So if she took NYC 6.5 to 1 and was about even in the rest of the state (I'm not bothering to look it up because the exact numbers don't matter for my point), the rest of the state would be very roughly 8 to 8, and the sum would be 14.5 to 9, which is a far less extreme ratio.



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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Sep 18 14:26:36 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 18 12:27:26 2017.

I know NYC isn't NY state we we're talking about NYC. Like i said i doubt it's 9-1.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 14:31:47 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Sep 18 14:26:36 2017.

It is significantly less than 9:1. The only point was to discredit bingbong's claim

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist?

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 14:42:16 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 18 12:18:10 2017.

Absolutely. If bingbong would only put her futile imagination to better use, like maybe writing erotic subway stories, she'd be my hero.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Sep 18 15:44:09 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 14:31:47 2017.

Well Hillary lost and Trump won at the end of the day thats what matters.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 16:01:40 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Sep 18 15:44:09 2017.

That is the truth. Much like the brothers were wrong, all of the current nonsense is doing is obstructing the agenda that America voted for.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 16:45:24 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 16:01:40 2017.

Except that America didn't vote for it. The Electoral College did.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 18 16:46:45 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 16:01:40 2017.

Not a mandate, as he got 3 million less votes than Clinton.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 18 16:57:15 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 16:01:40 2017.

LOL. What agenda did America vote for?

The only thing that even Republicans have been able to agree on is that Neil Gorsuch was a good appointment to the Supreme Court.


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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 16:57:49 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 16:45:24 2017.

That's part of the childishness of the left. You disagree with the system because the outcome was not what you hoped.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 16:59:40 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 18 16:46:45 2017.

He got the required number of electoral votes. I hear that Mexico has a totally popular vote system. Adios

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 17:00:50 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 18 16:57:15 2017.

Go stand under an overpass and listen for the echo.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Sep 18 17:05:37 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 18 16:45:24 2017.

And when Obama was elected our current president questioned his citizenship. So the left doesnt like the system, at least we didnt question whether he was American.

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Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 18 17:21:20 2017, in response to Re: Yes, Trump Really IS A White Supremacist, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Sep 18 16:59:40 2017.

Perhaps you don't understand what mandate means.

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