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Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 11:59:47 2017

“The Russian government, at the direction of Vladimir Putin himself, orchestrated cyber attacks on our nation for the purpose of influence our election,” ex-DHS Secretary Jej Johnson said. “That is a fact, plain and simple.”

Next obvious question: Who benefited?





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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 12:02:31 2017, in response to Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 11:59:47 2017.

You mean the hacks that don't exist? LMAO! It's already established that nothing got hacked except the DNC and GOP servers, unless you're saying that they were controlling the voting machines?!?!?!?

Jeh now guilty of perjury, if what you claim he says is what he said.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 12:07:11 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 12:02:31 2017.

How interesting that you know more about this investigation than the Department Of Homeland Security and the FBI.

Perhaps you'd like to share your expert findings with us.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 12:10:34 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 12:07:11 2017.

How interesting that you know more about this investigation than the Department Of Homeland Security and the FBI

LOL, false conclusion.

There is no such thing as an "election hack". They have admitted such a thing already. Jeh is himself a hack, and his words here are actually meaningless. Can't wait for the cross-examination.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 21 12:10:59 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 12:02:31 2017.

I noticed he hasn't done any of the live-streaming quotes about Obama's crimes, Lynch's crimes, Rice's crimes, Clinton(both) crimes, the email server, and gosh, I'm too tired to finish this list...but Comey's leaks.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 12:13:06 2017, in response to Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 11:59:47 2017.

Who benefited?

It's a pretty big stretch to suggest that leaking John Podesta's emails swayed the minds of 1% of PA's voters. Do you remember one single embarrassing thing in those emails?



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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 12:19:57 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 21 12:10:59 2017.

They're all criminals. They've basically turned the beltway into a criminal cartel. People have bled for their crimes already.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 12:22:02 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 12:10:34 2017.

"Cyber attacks" = "hacking". What part of that do you not comprehend?

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 12:23:07 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 12:13:06 2017.

It's more than just "Podesta's emails". Do you remember Trump urging the Russians to keep on hacking the DNC?

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 21 12:23:43 2017, in response to Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 11:59:47 2017.

Clinton? There's so many Obama/Clinton donors in this investigtation, it's almost as though they think there will be some magical second inaugruation with a Clinton body-double*.


*The original couldn't be there, she'd have to be carried off after waiting 20 minutes for the SUV to pull up.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 12:25:11 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 12:23:07 2017.

Yes, but Trump only benefited to the extent that they actually found and leaked embarrassing information that swayed people's minds.


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Re: Russia didn't hack Podesta's Emails

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 21 12:28:44 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 12:25:11 2017.

It was in the media! So enough with this fake train of thought.

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Re: Russia didn't hack Podesta's Emails

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 21 12:29:41 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 12:25:11 2017.

Yea, if only they kept the secrets of Hillary cheating and being a nazi as confined only to the unsecure bathroom email server that even French Taxi-drivers claimed to have hacked, things would be so different today.

That's how you want an election to be run!?

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 12:36:24 2017, in response to Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 11:59:47 2017.

Wrong. The next obvious question is: "How the hell does he know?" What was his position and access that makes him make such a bald statement?

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 12:48:49 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 12:36:24 2017.

What was his position and access that makes him make such a bald statement?

How about Director of Homeland Security at the time a supposed attempt to infringe homeland security was perpetrated?

How the hell does he know?

Maybe he doesn't wish to give details of how he knows because giving those details would reveal classified information about how the NSA and other agencies find things out. (Unlike the senior American official who accidentally revealed to the Russians that Israeli Intelligence is operating a first class network in a particular Syrian city.)







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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 12:51:01 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 12:36:24 2017.

As Homeland Security chief, I think he would have access to such evidentiary material as a matter of course.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 12:51:23 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 12:36:24 2017.

Funny how they drag him out of his comfort zone and he "knows" this only now.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 12:55:21 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 21 12:23:43 2017.

It's bad enough that Soros is a main donor to the McCain Institute. (No wonder McCain takes the Democratic side of so many issues.)

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 12:56:35 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 12:48:49 2017.

Maybe he doesn't wish to give details of how he knows because giving those details would reveal classified information about how the NSA and other agencies find things out.

Or maybe, like all the "sources" and "people who are in a position to know" he won't give us any backup for what could well be a lie.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 12:59:34 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 12:56:35 2017.

The way he worded it is a whole load of hot air to begin with. Just like Sally Yates.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 12:59:34 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 12:51:01 2017.

He couldn't possibly be lying or embellishing, could he?

I guess you also believe that when Bill and Loretta met in a private plane they discussed golf and grandchildren, and nothing else?

You're so trusting.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 13:00:48 2017, in response to Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 11:59:47 2017.

And SCUMBAMA said that it was not true when Trump claimed that the election results might be skewed back in August, September and October. It wasn't until hillary lost that any of you left wing assholes took it seriously.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 13:01:13 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 12:59:34 2017.

Innuendo is not testimony.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 13:01:59 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 13:00:48 2017.

Yes, we should put this in its proper context. Jeh Johnson is blaming the Obama Administration.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 13:02:04 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 13:01:13 2017.

What innuendo?

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 13:03:12 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 13:00:48 2017.

Yes, Obama said it was not true that election results might be skewed...in favor of Hillary.

They weren't.

Your point?

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 13:04:30 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 12:59:34 2017.

If you believe that Loretta Lynch met clinton for any other purpose, JayZee will claim that it proves that you be a racist.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 13:05:56 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 13:03:12 2017.

Good word humping there, Jimmy.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 13:08:34 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 13:03:12 2017.

Yes, Obama said it was not true that election results might be skewed...in favor of Hillary.

Source for this emendation of Obama's assertion?

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 13:14:37 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 12:56:35 2017.

for what could well be a lie

Heh. Feel free to think that.

I'd go with a more convincing defense myself:

- Yes, it's quite possible that the Russians engaged in illegal activities. That's not surprising - they don't have our interests at heart.

- However, there is no evidence anyone in the Trump campaign helped them in any way. And if by chance one of them did, he absolutely was not authorized by the candidate to do so.

- There is also no evidence their activities changed the outcome of the election in the slightest.

But I guess the target electorate doesn't need to be convinced with a well-thought-out rebuttal. They are easier to convince by just calling everyone else a liar.



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Posted by B68 SLOW POKE on Wed Jun 21 13:28:53 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 13:03:12 2017.

Who voted for Killary? I wonder? Dems do not want photo id at the voter sites. I wonder WHY?

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 21 13:36:26 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 13:00:48 2017.

That is EXACTLY the point.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jun 21 13:37:46 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 13:14:37 2017.

Oh noes, you brought the logic.


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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 13:38:44 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 13:08:34 2017.

His imagination.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 13:44:42 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 21 13:36:26 2017.

So what former Obama official is saying that the Russians influenced election results?

All I see them saying is that the Russians tried to influence results (something Obama officials didn't know in the summer of 2016), not that they succeeded.

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Posted by B68 SLOW POKE on Wed Jun 21 13:52:29 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 12:19:57 2017.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 21 14:38:44 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 13:00:48 2017.

Forget Nobama. ALL OF THE MEDIA SAID THAT ELECTIONS WERE NOT AND CANNOT BE RIGGED!


NO investigation needs to be done, except on all Journ-o-list! (remember journolist!)

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 21 14:39:08 2017, in response to Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 11:59:47 2017.

" Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks"

I bet you have the tapes of him giving the order in your desk drawer too right?

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 21 14:40:05 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 13:01:13 2017.

It sure was when i heard Comey the other week.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 14:48:00 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by SLRT on Wed Jun 21 13:08:34 2017.

JayZee writes fiction only

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 14:49:03 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 21 13:01:59 2017.

Precisely

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 14:51:04 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jun 21 14:38:44 2017.

The entire leftist cabal discredited Trump's claim until the left lost.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 15:12:36 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 14:48:00 2017.

Says the man who posted:

The Seminoles never signed a treaty with the United States

Kim Jong Un threw his uncle, naked, into a pen full of 120 starving dogs

Hillary Clinton committed crimes while in office

...and many other demonstrably false assertions.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 16:50:53 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 15:12:36 2017.

The treaty of 1832 predated 2 subsequent wars. After the 3rd Seminole war, the Seminoles who moved into the Everglades in 1858 have never signed a treaty.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 16:57:12 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 16:50:53 2017.

NOT what you originally posted. You wrote, "The Seminoles never signed a treaty with the United States".

Stop trying to weasel your way out of your lies.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 21 17:23:22 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 16:57:12 2017.

He only knows how to lie. He is conservatism wrapped in human form. Dumb, and when pushed to give facts, attacks people instead.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 17:26:45 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 21 17:23:22 2017.

You are correct, Newt. It was like when Scumbama said 57 states. Just a slip of the tongue.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 17:28:28 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 21 16:57:12 2017.

You are correct Newt. Juts like scumbama when he said 57 states. A slip of the tongue.

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 21 17:30:05 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 17:26:45 2017.

Just like Trump saying that the election was hackdd only for his lawyer only to say it wasnt.

Go figure dumbass :)

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Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jun 21 17:30:39 2017, in response to Re: Ex-DHS Secretary: Putin Ordered 2016 Election Hacks, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jun 21 17:28:28 2017.

You need to try better,

#r2derails2017

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