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Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 09:41:37 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 09:29:13 2017. 
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 09:44:46 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:35:59 2017. FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME, MY PENSION DOES NOT COME FROM THE STATE OF ILLINOIS!. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:50:17 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 09:44:46 2017. Here's the |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:51:51 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:50:17 2017. Let's retry that.Here's the < a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=solvency+status+CTA+pension+fund+Illinois">Google search, see for yourself. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 09:52:23 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:50:17 2017. WTF are you talking about? |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 22 10:12:59 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 08:11:23 2017. So when your Cobra runs out, and if a real Affordable Care Act is not passed z what will you do? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 10:19:38 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:51:51 2017. 11.75% is deducted from current employees, plus another 3% towards health care trust. For a total deduction of 14.75. CTA retirees are not part of Illinois employee pension. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 22 10:23:12 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:13:46 2017. Basically, no one lives in those red counties. Why are you so fixated on counting the vote of empty space?Because it's a big red blob on a map that gives the appearance that something is going on. It could be Trump winning by 1 vote and the blob would be red. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 10:46:00 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 22 10:12:59 2017. That's none of your business. Thankfully we already HAVE a REAL Affordable Care Act which will be made better by the next Democratic Congress, hopefully in 2019.You see, after the outcry over the potential dropping of 24-52 million (over 10 years , as projected by CBO) no alternative is going to see a vote without the CBO report showing it will retain at minimum or expand current coverage paradigms. Based on the current trajectory of yer RWers on this issue, that's mighty unlikely so they transparently will resort to trickery as they already have commenced on this upcoming trumpcare "thing". Fact remains, the existing ACA is still essentially a republican plan, and they can't do much better than it without a public option. Once that happens, the demand for single payer will overwhelm the system, and only those private insurerers that have established plans like "Medicare plus" will survive the transistion. That would be the ultimate system for this country, and the private supplemental plans can be regulated by individual states., or not. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 10:49:07 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 10:19:38 2017. Looks to me as they answer to it, as they report to the apparently consolidated state pension system. Alsi, correct me if I'm wrong, but 55-60% fnded is fairly weak AFAIK for a pension system. What with automation reducing the workforce, that's fewer working bodies contributing less and less into the fund. Doesn't bode well. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 10:51:25 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 22 10:23:12 2017. From what I've read, the margins were close to that narrow everywhere. He won by an aggregate of 110,000 votes in three states. Meanwhile Sec Clinton won the popular vote nationally by millions. The best polling trump has dne since is 40%. That's more than telling. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 10:55:13 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 10:51:25 2017. Who's our President? That's what I thought. All of these arguments on null and void because you cannot change reality. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 22 11:18:49 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 10:55:13 2017. Nobody's saying he's not President but that he has no mandate. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 22 11:25:58 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 09:29:13 2017. Socialist Paycheck. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 22 11:39:24 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 10:49:07 2017. You and your erstwhile husband seemed to revel in taunting others about the perceived fragility of their pensions and investments. How's that Cobra working out for you? Hope your health holds up. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 11:41:01 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 10:55:13 2017. It means plenty. It means that he needs to watch his step with the hateful programs he has or wants to implement. Nobody is paying for that stid wall ecause it will not be built (no point to it, much harm to it). People want ACA improved, not dismantled. Nobody (beyond the noisy minority of haters) wants Planned Parenthood defunded (thate xecutive action is currently denying Americans access to the healthcare they need) tha order needs to be rescinded, stat.Better check on what reality actually is. It doesn't include trump policies. The only support he has is that noisy minority (of haters). |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 11:41:27 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 22 11:18:49 2017. Exactly. And now he's harming Americans. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 22 11:43:51 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 11:41:01 2017. What is a stid wall? |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 22 11:44:52 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 11:41:27 2017. Shut the fuck up you vile excuse for a man. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 11:45:16 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 22 11:44:52 2017. lol |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 11:46:20 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 22 11:39:24 2017. I'm okay, thank you. NY States pension system is solidly solvent. I get no joy out of warning Chimmy about his. It's more a cautionary tale, maybe he'll get involved in ensuring it doesn't all go down. Unlike your ilk, I wsh no harm on anyone. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 12:10:01 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 09:44:46 2017. For the umpteenth time, it does. The CTA is a state agency. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 22 12:17:16 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:40:22 2017. low ratings zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 22 12:17:41 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:39:44 2017. IAWTP |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 22 12:31:45 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 22 11:43:51 2017. You know you get some 2x4's and set them vertically at 16" centers. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 12:44:39 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:42:14 2017. Really would prefer he hadn't. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 22 16:01:32 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 22 12:31:45 2017. That's a stud wall. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 22 16:40:23 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 10:46:00 2017. None of my business? So why is Irwin's pension any of your fucking business. I don't recall seeing him ask for your fucking advice. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Apr 22 18:13:30 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 10:19:38 2017. The CTA is a “political subdivision, body politic and municipal corporation” and the Retirement Plan for CTA employees is the entity established by section 22–101 of the Illinois Pension Code. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Apr 22 18:41:27 2017, in response to There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Dave on Wed Apr 19 09:53:31 2017. 400 replies from 99% of people who couldn't even recognize Trump on the street, although he's been in the public eye since before anyone has ever even heard of a Clinton or Obama.Just shows how smart all these replies must be. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 18:57:18 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Dave on Sat Apr 22 18:13:30 2017. PWN3D! |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 20:10:54 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 18:57:18 2017. Well, they're both right. CTA is an IL agency, but CTA employees are in a separate pension plan, not the IL state employees pension plan. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 20:20:03 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 20:10:54 2017. Thank you for saying that I am right. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 20:21:48 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 18:57:18 2017. 
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 20:31:36 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 20 13:47:57 2017. I agree! That's why the needs of this New York City born and bred person got met come election day! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 20:35:12 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:08:49 2017. I'm the equivalent of what? What does the state of Illinois bankruptcy have to do with me, although I don't think that will happen. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 20:39:08 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:35:59 2017. Not for nothing, but the guy should know where his own pension system comes from, not have people from across the country try to explain to him. You guys just can never admit when you're wrong about something. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 20:50:52 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 08:11:23 2017. Medical care is a privilege, not a right. Just like a driver's license. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 20:52:12 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 12:44:39 2017. He's making America great again! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 20:53:59 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 11:41:27 2017. Who is he harming? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 20:57:39 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 11:41:01 2017. I even said last year that the wall would never be built. If you go back and look, you would see I'm correct. So there was no need for the left to still be in hysteria over something that will not be built.What hateful programs are these that you were talking about? I for one want the Affordable Care Act dismantled because me having to pay for all the people directly caused my own health insurance co-payments and Pharmacy co-payments to go up significantly. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 22 21:16:59 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 20:57:39 2017. Once the left is personally affected by what comes in through an unprotected border, they will be in hysterics. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 21:40:40 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 20:57:39 2017. I for one want the Affordable Care Act dismantled because me having to pay for all the people directly caused my own health insurance co-payments and Pharmacy co-payments to go up significantly. That isn't really credible. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 22:53:28 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 21:40:40 2017. Then my doctor and my pharmacists both told me erroneous information. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 22 23:00:19 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 20:50:52 2017. Medical care is a privilege?wrong ! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 22 23:01:13 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 10:46:00 2017. iawtp |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 22 23:01:58 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 20 09:56:51 2017. zzz?? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 22 23:03:08 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 20:52:12 2017. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 23:06:02 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 22 23:03:08 2017. Wake up, your President needs you! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 23:09:59 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 22 23:00:19 2017. No, right! It's NO ONE else's responsibility to take care of us. Unless we choose to pay for health plans. |
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