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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 20 13:43:07 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 20 13:39:20 2017. No it doesn't. And of course, NYC's ideals trump everyone else. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 20 13:47:57 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 20 13:43:07 2017. Yes, because the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Apr 20 14:17:15 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 20 10:23:12 2017. The media really dropped the ball on this one.That's what happens when the media drops its objectivity. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Apr 20 14:17:57 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 20 11:31:24 2017. IAWTP. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 20 14:23:56 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 20 13:05:53 2017. What is this crap? You asked me why I didn't correct bingbong. The reason is because Trump mostly won quite rural counties. I noted the major exceptions. Where is the leftist propaganda in that? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 20 14:24:09 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 20 13:42:33 2017. LOL, and neither are blue ones.LOL, I said that. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 20 14:25:04 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Dave on Thu Apr 20 14:17:15 2017. No, that's not what happened in the phenomenon being discussed.It wasn't a failure of objectivity that caused the polls to be wrong in the swing states. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 20 14:34:19 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 20 10:40:32 2017. That is true. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 20 14:38:24 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 20 10:14:39 2017. Yeah but you're going to claim the left is so much worse anyway, no matter what. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 20 14:43:15 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 20 13:47:57 2017. That's marvelous, but the topic was about how "most of the state went blue according to Bing Bong, and I pointed out the areas that made it go blue for the most part. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 20 15:09:51 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 20 14:43:15 2017. She didn't specify that most of its area was blue, and she explicitly excluded rural areas. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 20 15:14:53 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 20 10:57:26 2017. thanks for posting this GP38Chris.In 2008, on Staten Island was red and all other NYC and LI counties were blue. Why? Italians are real Americans and love this country. Why did Suffolk County go red this time? Brentwood. People see the crime wave that I've been threading about for years, and voted against it. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 20 15:16:17 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 20 13:18:17 2017. LOL!!!!!!Your posts make me laugh. You're a funny guy RIPTA. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Apr 20 15:22:32 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 20 10:49:38 2017. Who's been cut off from healthcare? Proof? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 20 15:23:22 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by AlM on Thu Apr 20 14:25:04 2017. It wasn't a failure of objectivity that caused the polls to be wrong in the swing states.What was the cause? |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Apr 20 15:25:17 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 20 10:53:21 2017. Your a fucking menace to clear and honest thought. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 20 16:05:58 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 20 09:45:38 2017. Nah. Only in the NYC metro area that's true. The rest of the state is tired of all the snake oil salesman Democrats. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 20 16:07:01 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 20 16:05:58 2017. LOL at you using the term "snake oil salesman" to describe someone other than Trump. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 20 16:44:59 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by AlM on Thu Apr 20 14:23:56 2017. What is this crap? You asked me why I didn't correct bingbong. The reason is because Trump mostly won quite rural counties. I noted the major exceptions. Where is the leftist propaganda in that?It's reality, ergo it's leftist propaganda. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Apr 20 17:36:10 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 20 16:07:01 2017. Um...Shrillary... |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Apr 20 20:10:40 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 20 15:23:22 2017. Good question. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Apr 21 07:35:05 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 19 19:26:32 2017. when two very wealthy whites faced off, and there was no black person in the race, there was no Sandra Fluke, or TrayvonSince Sandra Fluke was white, it's not clear what you are saying. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Apr 21 07:41:47 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 19 21:09:22 2017. She did get more votes than Trump. He lost because of the Electoral College ("the way voters are sorted"). |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Apr 21 07:45:13 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Apr 21 07:41:47 2017. That is, SHE lost because of the Electoral College. Trump likes to pretend that there is something suspicious about those numbers, but there really isn't. People should vote, not land. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 21 20:26:27 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Apr 21 07:45:13 2017. Trump likes to pretend that there is something suspicious about those numbers, but there really isn'tBased on what? And I guess you're fine with disenfranchising the entire country apart from five major population centers? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 21 21:20:25 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 21 20:26:27 2017. Do you even know what "disenfranchising" means? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:13:46 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 20 13:43:07 2017. I made this table. The first five counties are the five boroughs from most to least populous, followed by the rest of the metro area, followed by the rest of the state. The percentage refers to the percentage of the population held by that counties and all those in the list before it.
So the “Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District” contains 67.29% of the state’s entire population. If you expand this to include the most populous counties in the rest of the state, all of which voted for Hillary: Erie (Buffalo), Monroe (Rochester), Onondaga (Syracuse) and Albany, you get up to 79.85% Basically, no one lives in those red counties. Why are you so fixated on counting the vote of empty space? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:19:05 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:13:46 2017. 70.3% of the population lives in one of the only 17 counties that voted for Clinton. The remaining 45 counties that voted for Trump contain only 29.7% of the state’s population. In a reality-based world (I know, anathema to Republicans), 70.3>29.7. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:21:27 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 20 11:41:41 2017. Sorry for the massive image, here’s a better view:![]() |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:25:51 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:19:05 2017. It IS a reality-based world. That's why Donald Trump won! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 22 00:28:23 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:25:51 2017. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:39:44 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:25:51 2017. Donald Trump’s promises were all fantasy. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:40:22 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 22 00:28:23 2017. Wake up! You're NOT dreaming! Donald Trump is our president!! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:40:59 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:40:22 2017. Yes, that is the dreadful reality. Reality bites. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:42:14 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:39:44 2017. I agree. Just like EVERY OTHER candidates. Although he has done some of the things that he said he was going to do. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:42:59 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:40:59 2017. Sit back and enjoy the Reality show! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 22 01:12:11 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:39:44 2017. Sadly he's proceeding with the Wall.I wish he wouldn't. It's a waste of money. There are other ways to enforce the border. Maybe some sections need upgrade, but an entire wall makes no sense. I think Mexico may actually want the wall to discourage so many Central Americans from coming through Mexico to come here. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 22 01:33:13 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:42:14 2017. I think Trump may make Mexico better enforce it's southern border.Why? If Mexico knows Central Americans can't make it here, and run the risk of getting stuck in Mexico, Mexico will keep them out of their country in the first place. And we all know Mexico does not want more Salvadorans, Guatemalans, and Hondurans. Ain't that funny? Sounds kind of anti-Latino :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 22 02:50:27 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:21:27 2017. would you agree that Suffolk went for Trump because people out there see Brentwood and surrounding areas as a snapshot of what America will be like in terms of crime if we don't enforce the border and deportation laws? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 07:09:26 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:13:46 2017. Thank you for this list.Addressing another of Chris's points a little more accurately than I did before, the only red counties in the top 20 are Richmond, Suffolk, Orange, Putnam, Oneida, Saratoga, and Broome. From Oneida on down, these counties are pretty rural. Below Broome, they're very rural. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 07:16:38 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 22 00:21:27 2017. Heh. Most of the counties that I cited in my other post as being not rural and being red, they just barely went for Trump. The only counties up there that went pretty red and aren't massively rural are Putnam and Niagara. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 08:11:23 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:42:14 2017. Like eliminate medical care access? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 08:34:40 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:25:51 2017. Reality sucks. This nation is being ruined. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 08:55:41 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:40:22 2017. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:08:49 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 22 00:40:22 2017. You won't be so happy should the (to some, inevitable) Illinois bankruptcy system goes bankrupt. After all, he has a solid track record of using bankruptcy to avoid paying creditors. Which BTW, you are the equivalent of. I'd rethink that enthusiasm. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:09:40 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:08:49 2017. That's pension system. My bad, yer worse. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 09:26:52 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:09:40 2017. FYI, my pension does not come from the state. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 09:29:13 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 22 09:26:52 2017. The CTA is a state agency. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 09:30:05 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:09:40 2017. One can blame Trump for lots of things, but I don't see how Illinois' bad finances are one of them. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 22 09:35:59 2017, in response to Re: There is no real evidence that Trump voters are turning on Trump, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 22 09:30:05 2017. I'm not. I DO blame trump for his cavalier attitude towards bankruptcies. If he lets that pension sytem go under, a LOT of people including our token Chicagoan here will br geatly harmed. Yeah, hes young enough to find some variety of job. Most pension recipients aren't. |
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