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It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 16:11:28 2017

This year, I am eating a bacon cheeseburger on matzah.

That way, no one needs to throw a screaming tantrum about how antisemitic I am for being Jewish while not following their absurd restrictions.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 11 16:17:18 2017, in response to It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 16:11:28 2017.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 11 16:46:12 2017, in response to It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 16:11:28 2017.

I don't get it. Are you saying your Jewish and not Jewish at the same time?

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 11 17:09:40 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 11 16:17:18 2017.

Iawtlp

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 17:22:05 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 11 16:46:12 2017.

I don't get it.

You never did.

Are you saying your Jewish and not Jewish at the same time?

I even spelled it out for you and you still invent with absurd nonsense like that.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 18:23:20 2017, in response to It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 16:11:28 2017.



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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 11 18:28:26 2017, in response to It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 16:11:28 2017.

i just hope your cheese on that burger isn't infused with vegetable oil.

And I hope your bacon is pasture raised from Thompson Farms in Dixie, Ga.

How your meat is raised will impact it's healthfulness. The less healthy your meat, the worse it is for you.

And since you're Jewish, and seem to seek a healthy diet, please be aware that many prominent high-fat Paleo advocates are Jewish. The owners of NYC's premiere Paleo eatery, Hu Kitchen, are Jewish too.

These are Jewish high-fat advocates,

Gary Taubes
Mark Sisson
Robb Wolf

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 11 18:35:09 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 17:22:05 2017.

" I am for being Jewish while not following their absurd restrictions. "

No, that is a confusing or absurd statement. You say you are jewish but you go on to say their (your) restrictions.

I even underline and italicized coded it for you. So I really don't get it. Passover is in the Bible.

I don't go around mocking things I haven't even at least attempted to learn, by inventing stuff.



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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 11 18:53:20 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 11 18:28:26 2017.

I always hear about how life expectancies are so much higher now than 1903(the year of the subchat time-machine thread).

I was trying to start some research once by going through the census records around this period. All of the specifc Jewish surnames I was trying researching had very long life expectancies. I was surprised to find that most people in Philadelphia (in the 5 or so surnames or more) were living way beyond todays life expectancy 100 years ago.

They should be on a Kosher diet like people used to be. Apparently there must be something to it. Living in a gritty city shouldn't allow for that.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 18:58:35 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 11 18:35:09 2017.

No, that is a confusing or absurd statement. You say you are jewish but you go on to say their (your) restrictions.

The "their" in "their restrictions" refers to the SubChatters who throw tantrums over what I eat.

So the statement is: "No [SubChat poster] needs to throw a screaming tantrum about how antisemitic I am for being Jewish while not following [that SubChat poster's] absurd restrictions."

Exactly what foods are or aren't acceptable varies considerably amongst Jews; Orthodox Jews believe tref is forbidden while Reform Jews believe kashrut is obsolete except for Passover restrictions. Ashkenazim generally believe that eating kitniyot during Passover is forbidden; Sephardim generally don't. Even the fine details are up for dispute, like whether turkey is kosher.

So eating a bacon cheeseburger on matzah means I'm keeping Passover, but I'm disregarding the rules of kashrut which Reform Jews don't keep anyway. Meaning it's actually perfectly consistent with one particular contingent of Judaism— the one I was raised in, specifically.

However, the tantrums people threw in the first Passover thread went far beyond being miffed by deviation from tradition. These were clearly people who felt their specific rules (Orthodox; traditional) were universals and anyone who broke them was a heretic dedicated to the destruction of Judaism.

So this year, I decided to see what happened if I proudly announced I was acting in accordance with the rules of a major sect other than their own. Would they have the same level of hatred as when they thought I was following a minor sect? Or worse, that I could be Jewish without mindlessly following any ancient traditions?

Passover is in the Bible.

Yes, and?

I don't go around mocking things I haven't even at least attempted to learn, by inventing stuff.

Then how do you explain this post (just for starters)?

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 19:07:48 2017, in response to It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 16:11:28 2017.

That way, no one needs to throw a screaming tantrum about how antisemitic I am for being Jewish while not following their absurd restrictions

Yeah, bacon cheeseburger on matzoh. What color are your jackboots, eh?

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 19:13:20 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 19:07:48 2017.

Got to appreciate the irony of a Nazi accusing a Jew of being a Nazi for not being Orthodox.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 11 19:16:56 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 18:58:35 2017.

RE: your sentence clarification, got it. I don't think I ever went into that thread, I usually avoid those.

"Passover is in the Bible.

Yes, and?"
Took it to mean that you were saying the holiday itself was made up.

Maybe you're like a Karaite, it says matza and nothing else. I find it interesting that rabbinical analysis of the bible is almost akin to that of interpreting the constitution or law. The amount of detail and analysis is some serious stuff.


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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 19:18:24 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 11 19:16:56 2017.

No Karaite would eat bacon. Except perhaps turkey, beef, duck or chicken bacon. They'd be all right with the cheese, though.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 11 19:20:50 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 19:18:24 2017.

I forgot his bacon bit.

I've wondered, but never got around to reading, why generic cheese is not allowed with the meat. How do we go from literal, the actual mothers milk, to the general, any mothers milk.

Until indigestion or lactose intolerance comes into play.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 11 19:42:22 2017, in response to It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 16:11:28 2017.

I know you're most likely kidding, but the thought of eating a bacon cheeseburger while using matzah as the bread, is just...ugh. Hamburger buns exist for a reason. :-)

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 19:48:50 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 11 19:42:22 2017.

Hamburger buns exist for a reason. :-)

But half of OTChat will throw a screaming tantrum if I eat one. :-(

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 19:49:04 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 11 19:20:50 2017.

The closest the Torah gets to it is where Shemot (Exodus) 23:19 forbids boiling a baby goat (slaughtered for food) in its own mother's milk. From that, apparently, the injunctions about mixing meat and dairy arose, although that's not explicitly in the text.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 11 20:41:06 2017, in response to It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 16:11:28 2017.

Newsflash: it's ALL bullshit. Kosher, halal, not eating meat on Friday is ALL a bunch of malarkey.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 20:46:02 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 11 20:41:06 2017.

That's what the commies told us. Rather not listen to the commies.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 20:46:39 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 11 20:41:06 2017.

PS. Stop feeding the troll Nilet over on Subchat, couldja.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 11 20:59:37 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 20:46:02 2017.

Funny thing; the commies had no meat anyway 😂

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 11 21:20:13 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 20:46:02 2017.

He seems German-Catholic so it figures he'd post that.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 11 21:28:12 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 19:48:50 2017.

LOL!

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 21:41:40 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 11 21:28:12 2017.

It's funny because it's true.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 11 21:44:47 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 11 19:42:22 2017.

Not the best way to enjoy a bacon cheeseburger forr certain.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 11 21:48:06 2017, in response to It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 16:11:28 2017.

Thats wonderful!!! Although your choice of crispy carb product to go with a delicious burger with cheese and bacon leaves a but to be desired.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 11 21:52:04 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 11 21:20:13 2017.

I'm a Brooklyn kid. Culturally, more "Irish Catholic" but I know that a magic man in the sky isn't telling people not to eat certain meats, mix certsin foods, and not to eat meat and poultry on Friday, but not fish!! Lolol!!

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 11 21:54:55 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 11 21:48:06 2017.

Wait...maybe a different matzah bread

I dunno, first I've ever seen this.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 11 22:07:40 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 11 21:28:12 2017.

Ass kisser.

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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Apr 11 22:08:04 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 11 18:28:26 2017.

Ass kisser.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 11 22:12:34 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Apr 11 19:20:50 2017.

Until indigestion or lactose intolerance comes into play.

Well, it does seem like a large number of Jews have problems with milk proteins (an inherited trait).

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 22:29:56 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 11 21:48:06 2017.

You don't get it. Bacon and cheese on a burger with matzoh during Passover is a bigger antisemitic insult than the first version.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 22:30:46 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 11 21:20:13 2017.

Why would a German Catholic dismiss not eating meat on Fridays?

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 22:32:06 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 11 21:52:04 2017.

I know that a magic man in the sky isn't telling people not to eat certain meats

Typical communist derision.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 11 22:42:36 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 22:32:06 2017.

Communism is a political affiliation. Just because one does not believe in fairy tales, doesn't mean that I'm a commie. By the way, I have nothing against organized religion or people that believe in it.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 22:49:47 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 11 22:42:36 2017.

Communism is a political affiliation

It's an ideology, and its adherents will tell you that.

Just because one does not believe in fairy tales, doesn't mean that I'm a commie

I didn't say you were a commie; I said you used typical communist derision, which includes calling things "fairy tales" that are not.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 11 22:58:52 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 22:49:47 2017.

Okay. So, if you are telling me that the T Torah is real, and Yaweh exists, what about Odin,Thor, Poseidon, etc...?

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 23:34:36 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 22:29:56 2017.

46. How is the existence of Reform Judaism antisemitic?

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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 00:24:15 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 22:30:46 2017.

Well probably because they like meat more than pasta.

I don't like Germany very much. They banned homeschooling.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 00:34:23 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 11 21:52:04 2017.

I'm a Brooklyn kid. Culturally, more "Irish Catholic"

I'm not surprised.

but I know that a magic man in the sky isn't telling people not to eat certain meats, mix certsin foods, and not to eat meat and poultry on Friday, but not fish!! Lolol!!

LOL. It's not about G-D. Fasting is about instilling discipline in people. It's very effective. It makes one aware. In addition to fasting during Lent, giving something up is also good. Fasting is also great for mitochondria.




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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 12 00:42:07 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 11 22:58:52 2017.

The latter were based on men, with much embellishment. Odin in particular was an ancient king of what is now Denmark.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 12 01:12:20 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 00:34:23 2017.

In addition to fasting during Lent, giving something up is also good.

In that case, I'm giving up Lent for Lent.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 12 01:52:36 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 12 01:12:20 2017.

In that case, I'm giving up Lent for Lent.

Good idea.

My experience being around so many immigrant Jews at one time was that Sabbath creates awareness.

Fasting. Not talking. Taking the stairs instead of the elevator. Getting dressed up.

Seeing fathers and sons walking together to Temple. Then families come out on Saturday night and go to a kosher eatery.

All this stuff strengthens the family unit.


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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 12 02:43:30 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 11 22:29:56 2017.

I understand all that. I'm not playing his fishbait game

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 12 02:44:06 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 11 21:54:55 2017.

Haha, there you have it!!

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 03:51:51 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 12 00:42:07 2017.

Do you see what I'm getting at? It's ALL tall tales. If we both eat a bacon cheeseburger this Friday, are we both "in trouble" with God because you had pork and mixed meat and dairy, and I ate meat on Friday?

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Apr 12 09:49:37 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 11 22:12:34 2017.

Well if that was the case thousands of years ago, should be proof enough that todays Jews are the real Jews of yesterday.

Maybe I should print your post out and mail it to all of these wannabe's.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Apr 12 09:59:32 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 11 23:34:36 2017.

"I once went to a reform synagogue that was so reform, they finished a 24 hour fast in 30 minutes"

- Milton Berle



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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 12 10:52:34 2017, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Apr 12 03:51:51 2017.

Do you see what I'm getting at? It's ALL tall tales

Repeating communist BS doesn't stop it from being communist BS.

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