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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 18:49:13 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 18:34:01 2017.

Flynn talking to Russian intelligence pre-inauguration about taking sanctions off is indictable activity.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 18:50:32 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 18:44:33 2017.

But what exactly do you mean by sharpening the contradictions?


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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 18:50:52 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 18:48:45 2017.

Any divisive issue to keep the populace divided.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 18:52:58 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 16:11:09 2017.

I think the GOP Congress would much prefer dealing with Pence. He has the far right social and economic agenda without the temper tantrums, twittering, attacking the media, lying, and not to have to deal with most other Trump juvenile bullshit, to say nothing of his Bromance with Putin.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 18:54:19 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 18:22:28 2017.

Don't forget that Nebraska Senator.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 18:54:31 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 18:49:13 2017.

Possibly. However, no one has been charged under the Logan Act since 1803 and no one has ever actually been prosecuted. And Flynn isn't president, nor has Trump committed obstruction of justice in trying to keep Flynn from getting caught.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 18:56:13 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 18:52:58 2017.

I think the GOP Congress would much prefer dealing with Pence.

True, but not sufficient to convince them to impeach him.



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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 18:59:58 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 18:56:13 2017.

Trump will take up all the oxygen in the room, not their legislative agendas. Republicans are slow learners, but when their light bulb flashes on, they'll impeach and convict him, if his ego does not have him resign first in a huff.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 19:01:45 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 18:54:31 2017.

We used the Monroe Doctrine against Russia during the missile crisis.
Old laws can be brought back to life. We run on a British legal system of precedents.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 19:09:59 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 18:52:58 2017.

Thats 100% true but the catch 22 is for that to happen the GOP has to shoot itself in the foot.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:07:12 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 18:54:31 2017.

LOAlM!

What are you talking about?

People who vote Republican are looking at violent protest and stupid boycotts. People like you can't understand what motivates people to vote against your element. As a result, the GOP has rebounded in recent years when we thought it was dead.



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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:14:29 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 18:22:02 2017.

LOL!!!

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 20:16:37 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 19:09:59 2017.

They'll just say Trump is not a real Republican (what he is, I have no idea, except a certifiable lunatic that makes Nixon look competent and sane), Pence is, dispose of the former.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 20:18:51 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:07:12 2017.

Vote against your element ???

YOU lost the popular vote by 2.9 million and lost 2 US Senate seats, couldn't get a troop of boy scouts to do a anti-Planned Parenthood Rally of any significance.


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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:29:30 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 19:09:59 2017.

?

Trump won the presidency.

How have Dems done in the last few midterms? Ever since Obama won in 2008 there has been a resurgence in the GOP.

The energy driving people to vote for the GOP is the behavior of #blm, Beyonce at halftime, Chick-fil-A, bathroom boycotts, violent protests, etc........

What do you think of the name Tee'on ? He got shot in Tampa on Saturday.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 20:39:41 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:29:30 2017.

Annnd Trump still loss the popular vote by 2.9 million Trump is looking like a disaster so far GOP resurgence is starting to look shaky. You make it seem like it was a landslide. It really wasn't and he's already breaking his promises so it's not looking good for this GOP resurgence.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 20:39:46 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:29:30 2017.

Trump won the electoral, which has been disbanded. He lost the popular vote by 3%.

Pendulums still do swing. The GOP is going through the Democrats' 2009. They will overreach and they will lose it all.

Nobody gives a shit about bathroom laws except southern Fundamentalist bigots.



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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 20:44:11 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 20:39:41 2017.

Trump's negatives ratings were higher than Hillary's.
78,000 dumb, blue collar, Democrats in PA, MI, and WI is the only reason Trump is President, because they were stupid enough to believe his populist, pro-manufacturing, anti-trade bullshit, which the rest of the GOP opposes.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:51:04 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 20:39:41 2017.

On the local level it was a bloodbath for the Dems. And it was a Presidential year when Dems usually do better. They usually do worse in midterms because the elements don't turn out as well.

But people like me aren't looking at what Trump is doing as much as we're watching violent protests, and society that politicizes everything from sports to awards shows.

People in this country actually support abortion because it lowers crime because it skews towards welfare minority women. Abort their offspring and crime will drop. Easy to understand yet it's one things the GOP fights against.

What do you think of the name Tee'on and someone with that name getting shot in Tampa?

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 20:52:34 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 18:54:31 2017.

No need for the Logan Act.

Flynn knowingly lied to and obstructed US law enforcement.

That's a felony.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 20:53:31 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 18:59:58 2017.

No they will not.

They would get primaried.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 20:54:27 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 20:16:37 2017.

Nixon was one of the most competent and sane Presidents we've ever had.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 21:00:02 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:51:04 2017.

Democrats are losing rural America, are congregating on the 2 coasts, northern Illinois, Denver, and New Mexico. They did not turn into Republicans and still make up half the country as they did in 2000. Millenials, Asians, and (legal)Latinos have poor voter turnout and tend to be Democrats.

These protests for the most part are NOT violent.

People get shot everyday some place.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 21:06:38 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:51:04 2017.

People in this country actually support abortion because it lowers crime

Will you stop with that debunked Freakonomics liberal propaganda?

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 21:08:17 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 20:51:04 2017.

I do agree on one thing the left don't turn out for midterms. Don't discount one thing. For the left the election of Trump might be a good thing long term. A lot of ppl on the left stayed home or voted third party not taking the possibility of a Trump win serious enough. Best believe now this Trump win has woken up a political sleeping giant in the left. I'd bet the midterm elections and next presidential election will see record numbers of the left turning out bc they see the consequences of their inaction(Trump).

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 21:10:35 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 21:06:38 2017.

Will you stop with that debunked Freakonomics liberal propaganda?

Stop being a cuck and wake up and see the societal benefits to state-funded abortion.




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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 21:13:31 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 21:10:35 2017.

It's a pack of lies and it fits with the views of atheistic types like Sanger and the rest of the godless eugenicists.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 21:18:06 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 20:52:34 2017.

Jail time is conceivable.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 21:18:46 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 20:52:34 2017.

That's a paddlin'

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 21:21:23 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 21:08:17 2017.

Tea Party movement energized Republicans.
Similar is happening now to Democrats, who got complacent and lazy.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 21:23:34 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 20:53:31 2017.

No they wouldn't. They will all disown Trump by this summer.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 21:24:59 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 20:54:27 2017.

He was diagnosed clinically paranoid. How could anyone be so afrid of George McGovern of all people to pull of Watergate ? But yes, he could be competent. He gave us minimum wage, EPA, and Amtrak.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 21:35:56 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 21:18:06 2017.

He'll get pardoned. Putin will insist on it.

Trump claimed that he was endorsed by the Border Patrol during the campaign. He confused the CBP with the СВР.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 21:43:41 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 21:35:56 2017.

Or plea bargain like Spiro Agnew.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 21:51:19 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 21:13:31 2017.

It's a pack of lies and it fits with the views of atheistic types like Sanger and the rest of the godless eugenicists.

Margaret Louise Higgins is uber Irish-Catholic. People should know this.

So look at NYC. Before paying for abortion crime was out of control while southern cities like Atlanta, New Orleans, and Central Florida were known for their southern charm and cleanliness and lower crime.

Now the roles have reversed. It's the south that has the issues and NYC is the safest big city in American and one of the safest in the world. And it's who NYC aborted that best explains this trend.




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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 21:55:24 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 21:08:17 2017.

A lot of ppl on the left stayed home or voted third party not taking the possibility of a Trump win serious enough. Best believe now this Trump win has woken up a political sleeping giant in the left.

The main third party candidate in this election is an elected Republican.

If anyone did not take Trump seriously it was Republicans because the media told everyone over and over and over that Hillary was in the lead.

Aside from violent protests and boycotts, and Tee'on getting shot in Tampa, I just hope the south starts paying for abortions to lower crime. That's all that matters.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 22:15:11 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 21:08:17 2017.

political sleeping giant

Why do you say sleeping giant?

In what area were you asleep?

Turnout? Media support? SPENDING? Didn't Hillary spend much more than Trump?

She had media, money and celebrity support. She had every single advantage a politician could dream of.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 15 22:21:23 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by 3-9 on Wed Feb 15 15:53:19 2017.

Oh please! That's not gonna happen!

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 22:30:53 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 15 22:21:23 2017.

It will happen and it is already happening. But he won't get impeached.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 22:49:49 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 21:08:17 2017.

A lot of ppl on the left stayed home or voted third party not taking the possibility of a Trump win serious enough

No they didn't.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 22:50:34 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 22:15:11 2017.

There's no left-wing "sleeping giant" at all. And he'd better hope there isn't, otherwise he'll be among the first to go to a gulag.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 22:52:44 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 21:51:19 2017.

Margaret Louise Higgins is uber Irish-Catholic

Complete lie. Even her dad was an atheist.

So look at NYC. Before paying for abortion crime was out of control while southern cities like Atlanta, New Orleans, and Central Florida were known for their southern charm and cleanliness and lower crime.

Now the roles have reversed


If that is so, it's due to Giuliani, not abortion.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 15 22:54:13 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 22:30:53 2017.

What is happening is the TOTAL inability of the Leftists, Liberals, Democrats, Commies, Socialists, Anarchists to come to the realization that Donald John Trump is the 45th President of the United States of America. A lot of the aforementioned literally grew up without EVER being told no before in their lives, and having EVERYTHING gone their way. So when something happens that doesn't go their way, they TRULY fall apart and unravel, such as we see on a daily basis. SO... they try to obstruct, block, and veto everything that Trump does, but you know what? He'll be around for 8 years, swatting the opposition off of him like flies.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 22:54:44 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 22:50:34 2017.

I think he'd just better concentrate on reading the iron instead of reading political message boards.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 23:04:31 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 22:52:44 2017.

Complete lie. Even her dad was an atheist.

Irish-Catholics are atheists. They are not spiritual in any way. Everything about Irish-Catholics is political.

You don't name a daughter "Margaret Louise" unless you're a practicing Catholic. As Afrocentric as the name Tee'on is, Margaret Louise is Irish-Catholic.


If that is so, it's due to Giuliani, not abortion.

250,000 babies aborted per year in the 80's. Not all NYC residents. Many traveled to NYC for the medical services. Still, it was mostly WELFARE women aborting their offspring starting in the early 80's and by the time the 90's came around, and their babies would be "teens", instead they just weren't around thanks to abortion, and crime plummeted.



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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 23:10:00 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 23:04:31 2017.

Irish-Catholics are atheists

LOL! You can tell better jokes than that.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 23:10:55 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 22:54:44 2017.

He'd be a better person for it. But I suspect the union propaganda's getting to him.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 15 23:18:14 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 20:39:46 2017.

What was disbanded?

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 23:26:01 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 15 22:54:13 2017.

You and the other conservatives are such pathetic hypocrites. For eight years, you just could not stand the fact that someone you didn’t like was the president. You continued to claim that you needed to take the country back. And now that the other side, the actual MAJORITY of the country is out of power, you hypocritically claim that we’re the one’s who can’t stand it.

Deference to power is un-American. It always has been. I have not and will never respect power for its own sake. And I will never respect Donald John Trump. Note that when he was president, I respected George W. Bush and always considered that it would be an honor to meet him or otherwise be in his presence. I always thought that would be universally true for any president. It isn’t. Trump has singlehandedly destroyed the inherent respectability of the Presidency of the United States.

If Trump is around for eight years, then this country will be around for exactly that long.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 23:27:17 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 21:08:17 2017.

Stop with the wishful thinking. It’s childish. There is nothing good, either long term or short term about this.

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