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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 15 13:25:15 2017 Is that what the left wants? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 13:38:59 2017, in response to President Mike Pence, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 15 13:25:15 2017. No, it wants President Hillary Clinton. :)What does it matter what the left wants? President Trump will remain our President until 1/20/2021 unless: (a) He becomes seriously ill or dies (unlikely - heart disease takes a while to materialize and he doesn't seem to have it now - and narcissistic personality disorder won't get him removed from office unless he truly goes off the deep end and starts to wrestle people for the nuclear button, which is also unlikely). (b) He is assassinated (unlikely - that's why we pay all that money for the Secret Service - if they could protect Obama against a lot of nuts who are skilled marksmen they can probably protect Trump against a lot of nuts with Saturday Night Specials). (c) He is impeached and convicted (unlikely - he'd have to commit a murder in front of 10 witnesses for the current House to impeach him). (d) He quits (unlikely - he'd know that would make him a loser forever). |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 13:40:54 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 13:38:59 2017. Loalm! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 13:51:13 2017, in response to President Mike Pence, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 15 13:25:15 2017. Absolutely. How could they not? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 13:57:50 2017, in response to President Mike Pence, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 15 13:25:15 2017. Every patriotic American wants that. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 14:01:28 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 13:51:13 2017. How could they not?Pence is more competent. He might get right-wing stuff through Congress that Trump can't because Trump doesn't play nice. Trump is in real danger of losing McCain, Murkowski, Collins, and maybe even Graham. Pence would keep them on his side. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 15 14:22:43 2017, in response to President Mike Pence, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 15 13:25:15 2017. Eventually.I want it to happen in a long slow process which both destroys the republican party and prevents them from managing to do much in congress. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Feb 15 14:49:33 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by R30A on Wed Feb 15 14:22:43 2017. Don't be certain that in trying to bring down the government that the Left doesn't bring down itself. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 15 14:51:31 2017, in response to President Mike Pence, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 15 13:25:15 2017. Hard to say there would be much difference. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 15 15:03:29 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by R30A on Wed Feb 15 14:22:43 2017. Because you were fine with the treason of the last eight years? Hope you don't die in an Iranian nuke attack. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 15:05:44 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by SLRT on Wed Feb 15 14:49:33 2017. What on earth does that mean? Are you suggesting the left could provoke an authoritarian state? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 15:12:48 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by R30A on Wed Feb 15 14:22:43 2017. I fear that the longer this takes the more damage Trump can do. I would accept long-term Republican dominance if it meant peacefully and legally eliminating Trump. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 15:29:38 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 15:12:48 2017. I agree there is a big unknown with Trump that there is not with Pence, in particular when it comes to the nuclear button (particularly because Bannon has been quoting as saying he wants a confrontation with China and Iran).But other than that*, at this point I would expect Pence to cause more damage than Trump. Trump just isn't competent enough to advance the really damaging kind of legislation that Pence would push. * I know there is an aspect here of "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Feb 15 15:48:26 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 15:29:38 2017. amazing how a bunch of amateur do-nothing computer/train nerds are such experts at world politics. who'd a thunk it? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 15:49:25 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ntrainride on Wed Feb 15 15:48:26 2017. ???I don't see any experts at world politics here. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 15 15:50:12 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ntrainride on Wed Feb 15 15:48:26 2017. Yes, It is amazing that a bunch of computer/train nerds are actually more knowledgeable about world politics than the US president.(But then again, so is much of the nation) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Feb 15 15:53:19 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 13:38:59 2017. (c) He is impeached and convicted (unlikely - he'd have to commit a murder in front of 10 witnesses for the current House to impeach him).I'm not so sure about that - there are rumors that they are biding they're time until Trump really screws up, then they'll throw the book at him. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 15 16:02:17 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by 3-9 on Wed Feb 15 15:53:19 2017. Took a while for them to get Nixon out yunno. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 15 16:02:22 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 13:38:59 2017. I think you are seriously underestimating the chances of both A and C, as well as a plea deal of some sort forcing D. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 15 16:07:31 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 13:57:50 2017. Well, I'm just curious because the people who are in the Presidential order of succession after Trump probably won't be palatable to the left either.If Trump were to leave office, he would be succeeded as follows. Vice President Mike Pence House Speaker Paul Ryan President Pro Tempore of the Senate Orrin Hatch Secretary of State Rex Tillerson Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin Defense Secretary James Mattis Attorney General Jeff Sessions Do the left want any of these guys in the White House? |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Feb 15 16:08:19 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 15:05:44 2017. It might like its own. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 16:11:09 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by 3-9 on Wed Feb 15 15:53:19 2017. I dunno the GOP looks bad impeaching their own man in Trump but if this Russian thing gets worse they might not have a choice. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 16:13:19 2017, in response to President Mike Pence, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 15 13:25:15 2017. No the left don't want Pence but don't underestimate the satisfaction of a good ol fashion 'I told you so' by the left (about Trump not being fit to be pres) if Trump gets impeached. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 16:19:06 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 16:11:09 2017. you make me laugh!!!!!!Thanks for posting here. Signals, switches, and station stops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 16:21:34 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by SLRT on Wed Feb 15 16:08:19 2017. I have no idea what you're talking about. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 16:22:03 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 16:19:06 2017. Once again coming from you thanks for the compliment. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Feb 15 16:24:57 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 16:21:34 2017. Good. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Feb 15 16:33:32 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 15 16:07:31 2017. Hatch is the ideal. The one who is least likely to completely destroy the nation. Tillerson might not be terrible either. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 16:50:54 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 16:22:03 2017. thanks.Louder with Crowder will be on The Joe Rogan Experience today. On your end, I urge you to stop posting about politics. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 17:02:16 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 16:50:54 2017. Not gonna happen. Get used to it. I'd urge you to stop posting about women and those stupid Joe McCarthy style list bc on both counts you sound like a lunatic. But that probably won't happen either. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 17:14:00 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 17:02:16 2017. it behooves you to stop posting about politics. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 17:21:38 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 17:14:00 2017. LOLUCH! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 17:35:38 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 17:21:38 2017. TonyGFredG JoeV FtGreeneG Dand124 JayZeeBMT WillD Claro RIPTA WMATA Spider-Pig 3-9 FBklyn TerrapinStation Kevin from Midwood |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Feb 15 17:48:57 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 16:11:09 2017. The GOP had to accept Trump because he won the nomination and general election fair and square. They won't have to, though, if Trump screws up so bad his core supporters leave him. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 18:13:55 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 13:38:59 2017. unlikely - he'd have to commit a murder in front of 10 witnesses for the current House to impeach himThey still wouldn't. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 18:16:51 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by 3-9 on Wed Feb 15 17:48:57 2017. They're not even gonna investigate Flynn's treasonous actions let alone Trump. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 18:19:25 2017, in response to President Mike Pence, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 15 13:25:15 2017. Wherever the chips may fall. This is far worse than Watergate, involves a adversarial nation, and is unraveling much faster. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 18:22:02 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by 3-9 on Wed Feb 15 17:48:57 2017. That's the point if it were up to established GOP Trump wouldn't be anywhere near the WH. However since he's so popular with the GOP voters and he's pres now they have to grin and bear Trump whether they like it or not. At this point their fates are connnected. If Trump gets impeached the GOP takes a PR hit so even if they would like for Trump to be gone it might not be wise of them to push for it. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 18:22:28 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 14:01:28 2017. McCain and Graham just like to talk and talk. He's never gonna lose them.It will be Flake and Heller who will fly the coop next. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 18:23:35 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 18:22:02 2017. Because they put party before country. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 18:24:03 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 15 16:07:31 2017. That's not how it works unless Pence were to die or resign before a new VP appointed by him is seated. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 18:28:17 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 18:24:03 2017. Maybe Mitch is envisioning some multiple assassination fantasy. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Feb 15 18:28:46 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 15 16:02:17 2017. yep |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 18:28:49 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 15:12:48 2017. I'd rather wait.Pence wouldn't sharpen the contradictions like Trump does. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 18:29:25 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 18:28:49 2017. What do you mean? |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 18:32:33 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 18:23:35 2017. Agreed unfortunately. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 15 18:34:01 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 15 18:19:25 2017. This is far worse than WatergateNot seeing anything like that yet. If Manafort engaged in scurrilous activity, there's no hint it was at Trump's direction or that Trump is now trying to cover it up. And anything Flynn was up to was post-election. If Flynn talked to the Russians post-election at Trump's direction that's not really over the top. Kissinger did that too. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 15 18:44:33 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 18:29:25 2017. By sharpening the contradictions in his second term, Bush made a Democratic wave possible in 2006-08 which ultimately gave the country Barack Obama and a large Democratic majority.With Trump, it's already happening within weeks of his taking office. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Feb 15 18:44:39 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 15 16:02:17 2017. But they did. IIRC it was main stream Repubicans , Led by Goldwater that turned their back on him that was the final straw. My Father was a staunch Rep Conservative who swore to his dying day that Nixon got railroaded by a hostile media.History shows that Nixon was his own worst enemy & brought about his own demise. History also shows that a hostile media was a big help by piling on. Their existance is nothing new. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 15 18:48:45 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 15 18:23:35 2017. like the Democrats.They put party, race, gender, sexual preference all before country. |
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