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Re: LGBT concerns (Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence)

Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 23 06:30:02 2017, in response to Re: LGBT concerns (Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence), posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 00:41:26 2017.

This is getting into silly territory. If a Jew wanted a cake with a theme celebrating the Crucifixion sure as hell I wouldn't bake it.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 07:55:16 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jan 22 09:52:04 2017.

I would rather have a warmongerer and the protection of rights and protections for all than an inexperienced demagogue fascist. Hillary was a bad choice but given the circumstances was the better choice.

Staying home and not voting only did more damage. Evil done halfway around the world is less bad than evil done at home and with Hillary the evil was easier to stomach. If you didn't vote or voted third party, the death of America is blood on YOUR hands.

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Re: If you voted for Hillary, you voted for Kaine

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 07:56:44 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Hillary, you voted for Kaine, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jan 22 10:34:48 2017.

How the fuck is black supremacy a bad thing? And how the fuck are the Democrats anti-Semitic?

The non-Jewish white male has had their time pass. They know this. This is why the GOP fights their last gasp. I know I am inferior and you should too.

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Re: LGBT concerns (Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence)

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 07:59:07 2017, in response to Re: LGBT concerns (Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence), posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 00:41:26 2017.

Christians pounced on the first saviour they saw. Someday they will find that their choice was incorrect.

Remember, Christians are inferior to Jews.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 08:01:22 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jan 22 11:12:56 2017.

Let's say back on November 8th you had two big deal-breakers.

1: You don't white supremacy/Neo-Nazis/the Alt-Right
2: You are not for abortion.

Who the fuck do you compromise for? Those who want God's chosen people, the pinnacle of humanity, exterminated or the death of unborn babies who might not have had an optimal life. What matters more?

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Re: LGBT concerns (Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence)

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 23 08:48:58 2017, in response to Re: LGBT concerns (Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence), posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jan 22 20:55:48 2017.

should i be forced to photograph a gay wedding ?

Tell them to hire another photographer, that your camera is on the fritz. :-)

Bill Newkirk




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Re: If you voted for Hillary, you voted for Kaine

Posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Jan 23 09:08:40 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Hillary, you voted for Kaine, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 07:56:44 2017.

No one's inferior to anybody. Historically speaking there's been enough atrocities committed by folks thinking they're superior. I do agree with he last sentiment for what the 'alt right' feelings are amd why they were so gung ho about Trump.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 09:38:03 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 08:01:22 2017.

What a fallacious statement.

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Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 23 09:46:47 2017, in response to Re: LGBT concerns (Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence), posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 23 06:30:02 2017.

They think they're being funny. I noticed not a shred of criticism out of them for the "anti-fascist" rioters though; nothing.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 09:57:35 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 07:55:16 2017.

A good post for once.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 10:02:29 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 08:01:22 2017.

LOL!!!

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 10:02:57 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 08:01:22 2017.

Behold the Loony Left!!!

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 10:22:02 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 10:02:57 2017.

Please. With the same mouth you'd claim that Spencer is not representative of the right.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 10:24:14 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 10:22:02 2017.

Well, we have supposed "rational" leftists agreeing with one of the most out there leftists on the board.....

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 10:30:29 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 10:02:57 2017.

If you have cancer, you do something to contain it.

When a society has a cancer, why do we just idly sit by and let them have their way?

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Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 23 10:33:15 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 10:24:14 2017.

The phrase "rational leftist" is an oxymoron.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 10:33:40 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 10:30:29 2017.

Some would say we had cancer for the last 8 years. It depends on how one looks at it.

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Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 23 10:35:33 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 10:30:29 2017.

When a society has a cancer, why do we just idly sit by and let them have their way?

Yeah; the last eight years it really did metastasize thanks to the DC leadership.

BTW, are you scared of Trudeau?

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Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 10:35:52 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 23 10:33:15 2017.

That's why "rational" was in quotes.

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Re: Scrabbleship is a racist bigot

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 23 10:37:50 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Hillary, you voted for Kaine, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 07:56:44 2017.

The non-Jewish white male has had their time pass

Oh, so you are a bigot. GFYS in that case.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 23 10:38:29 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 10:24:14 2017.

Geez. He said "for once."

If Hitler had said exercise was good for you, would you be avoiding exercise because you wouldn't be willing to agree with Hitler on anything?



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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 23 10:55:43 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 08:01:22 2017.

It's not so simple. Actually, I think it's possible in rare cases for someone to deliberately vote for someone with whom they disagree on every single issue without exception. There very well could be a valid reason to do so.

Making a selection in the voting booth often involves not only what a candidate said on the campaign trail (and prior), and not even only on the weight of the issues as seen by the voter, but on how the voter realistically sees the next x years playing out with that politician in office.

Let's say you have your top "pet" issue, with one politician for it, and the other against it. But you do not see a path toward change (or at least you see the same change or the same result occurring) no matter who wins. Even though it is your top issue, you may dismiss it while making your selection, because you see other issues on which your vote could actually make a difference.

The selection process by the individual voter can be so intricate that you cannot possibly judge someone's character based merely on the resulting bubble they fill in. There is also true and genuine error (non-malicious) in which the person may not even be so sure they are making the right choice.

When the prejudging of half or nearly half of a country stops, when we remember that there are more than two types of people in said country, then we can start healing the wounds of the nonsense of the past year or so.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 23 10:58:22 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 23 10:55:43 2017.

Actually, I think it's possible in rare cases for someone to deliberately vote for someone with whom they disagree on every single issue without exception.

Hamilton supported Jefferson for president in 1800 pretty much under those circumstances.



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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 11:08:26 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 23 10:38:29 2017.

As soon as "Hitler" is compared to anyone or anyone now, the argument is already lost. Absolutely Ridiculous.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 11:19:57 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 23 10:38:29 2017.

If Hitler had said exercise was good for you, would you be avoiding exercise because you wouldn't be willing to agree with Hitler on anything?

Hitler DID say that exercise is good for you and he was right about that.




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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 11:21:25 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 10:24:14 2017.

I wrote that because it was indeed a surprisingly good post.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 11:50:43 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 11:08:26 2017.

It's a perfectly valid comparison. Just because the person is contemptible doesn't mean that everything that they say is automatically wrong. The point of using "Hitler" is that if you want to prove that point, you have to use the most contemptible person.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 11:54:32 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 11:50:43 2017.

Oh come on. it's so absurd. Comparing what Hitler was and did to Trump. Give me a F'in break. This utter nonsense is why Trump won.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:03:31 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 23 10:58:22 2017.

Here's the quote:
Mr. Jefferson, though too revolutionary in his notions, is yet a lover of liberty and will be desirous of something like orderly Government – Mr. Burr loves nothing but himself – thinks of nothing but his own aggrandizement – and will be content with nothing short of permanent power and in his own hands – No compact, that he should make with any other passion in his own breast except his Ambition, could be relied upon by himself – How then should we be able to rely upon any agreement with him? Mr. Jefferson, I suspect will not dare much Mr. Burr will dare every thing in the sanguine hope of effecting every thing.
Emphasis added, strikeouts as in original.

Seem familiar? Unfortunately the Republican Party leadership have abandoned their love of country and liberty in favor of love of party.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:05:02 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 11:54:32 2017.

You really don't understand logic. Just like many Trump voters. That's why Trump won.

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Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jan 23 12:13:43 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 23 09:46:47 2017.

Of course not. It's the liberal way.

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Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:19:16 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 23 09:46:47 2017.

What does that have to do with anything?

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 23 12:24:49 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 11:54:32 2017.

Comparing what Hitler was and did to Trump.

LOL. You didn't even read what I was responding to. I was indirectly comparing Hitler to Scrabbleship, not Trump.

And it was you who started it, by calling Scrabbleship an extreme leftist.




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Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:25:19 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jan 23 12:13:43 2017.

The liberal way is not to commit logical fallacies like connecting two unrelated things. Olog-hai is the king of logical fallacies.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Jan 23 12:38:05 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 10:24:14 2017.

You and these generalizations again... Almost no one agreed with what most of what Scrabbleship said. Reading comprehension man stop acting like a 6 yr old sheesh.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:42:19 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:05:02 2017.

There is absolutely no logic involved in attempting to compare a monster like Hitler to anyone, much less Trump.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:43:00 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 23 12:24:49 2017.

Scrabbleship is an extreme leftist. Why is it bad to speak the truth?

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 23 12:44:17 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Jan 23 12:38:05 2017.

scrabbleship says if you're Christian, Muslim, White, Hindu, male, etc......then you are garbage.

As for you, you should just be focused on the pick, on Bulletins, on station stops, carbohydrates, and other things.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:47:16 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:43:00 2017.

Who says it was bad? God damn.

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Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:47:55 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:25:19 2017.

You mean like so many have compared Trump to Hitler and current events to the 1930's. Oh please.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:48:39 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Jan 23 12:38:05 2017.

SMAZ said he made an excellent post.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:48:45 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:42:19 2017.

First, no one is comparing Hitler to Trump.

Second, LOL!

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:49:26 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:48:45 2017.

LOL, it's all over the place.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:49:55 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:47:16 2017.

Al said I was "starting something" by calling Scrabbleship an extreme leftist.

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Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:51:16 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Clinton, you voted for Kaine, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:47:55 2017.

Nobody has compared Hitler to Trump. And nobody has compared the present day to the 1930s except for Donald Trump.

In any case, the use of Hitler was not at all fallacious, except in your opinion, which is completely meaningless.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:51:48 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:48:39 2017.

Yes, he did.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:52:53 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:49:26 2017.

Yeah, you're all over the place. You have no idea what anyone else is arguing and you are posting in a vain attempt at looking informed and logical.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:54:17 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:49:55 2017.

Yes. You started the absurd line of reasoning.

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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 23 12:54:45 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:52:53 2017.

Chris Mathews(Irish Catholic) who is a big star on The Left said Trump speech was Hitlerian.



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Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 23 12:55:06 2017, in response to Re: If you voted for Trump, you voted for Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 12:48:45 2017.

Sadly not only "common people", but some of the supposed "reputible" news organizations. Forget so many left leaning sites. You are going to say this isn't some notion that is attempted to be pushed? Please. This is just a very quick google search.

Washington Post: President Trump’s ‘America First’ slogan was popularized by Nazi sympathizers

BBC: US election: The German comparing Trump's campaign to Hitler's

Newsweek: Sanders and Trump: It’s the 1930s All Over Again

Washington Post: The theory of political leadership that Donald Trump shares with Adolf Hitler



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