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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 00:30:15 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jan 17 20:41:38 2017. PETA is not "the left." |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 00:32:28 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jan 17 23:50:51 2017. They are answerable to their shareholders. They should ONLY be answerable to their shareholders. Consequently, the people should not be under the mistaken impression that corporations work for them. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jan 18 02:17:44 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 00:15:38 2017. Why do you have problems when even dead people seem to have no problems voting. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 18 02:45:33 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 21:17:20 2017. I think Henry understands. Bill doesn't seem to. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 18 02:47:58 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 23:02:09 2017. Why not? (I agree it's a solution in search of a problem.) |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 18 02:49:51 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 21:21:26 2017. True. But it is angry and reactionary nevertheless. However, it is a form of opinion espoused by a much smaller portion of the left than the portion of the right that espouses angry and reactionary views. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 04:21:34 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jan 18 02:17:44 2017. Wish I knew but anyway the solution to the problem is obvious. People are able to get state ID whether you drive or not. The simple solution is you show your state ID problem solved no need for a special voter's ID IF that is truly the problem they want to solve (Imo there's another motive involved). |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Jan 18 05:22:10 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jan 17 22:26:25 2017. danke schoen. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 18 05:58:26 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Jan 17 22:39:23 2017. Show ID? I have never been asked that, when I lived in the city or outside the city, all NY state. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 18 05:59:04 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Jan 17 22:55:50 2017. Exactly, that's how NYstate does it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 08:35:06 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 18 02:47:58 2017. Read all of the horror stories of people trying to get their "free" ID. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jan 18 08:53:00 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 04:21:34 2017. Of course you see another motive involved. Why else would a white man like me not have to show ID in order to vote while you, a person of color, has to show ID in order to vote. If roles were reversed, I'd be at the Bd. Of Elections, demanding answers instead of relating anecdotal stories on a Subway Chat board. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jan 18 14:30:40 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 21:40:56 2017. Yeah, comparing the ACA to a Band-Aid is too harsh to the ACA. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 18 15:46:02 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 08:35:06 2017. Government beaurocracy. They've made everything a project. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 15:51:39 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 18 15:46:02 2017. If they opened more DMV offices and extended their hours such that it would be easier to obtain an ID, you'd complain about government waste. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 18 16:30:21 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 15:51:39 2017. Why? I never made any comments even close to that. actually quite the opposite. People that work can't make those normal 9 to 5 hours. I've always advocated for better than banking hours. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 18 21:23:45 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 18 16:30:21 2017. They could close for two weekdays and be open on the weekends, or shift the hours 11 to 7. My hours for a full time customer-facing job at the University were Sunday-Thursday 11AM to 7PM. No reason at all the DMV can't do something like that. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jan 18 22:37:31 2017, in response to Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 11:27:09 2017. Yes, it's the left that put Steve Bannon as a senior presidential aide.It's the left that elected an Oval Office occupant who made the praise of anti-Semitic groups and neo-Nazis a central piece of his campaign strtaegy. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jan 18 22:38:17 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jan 17 22:26:25 2017. Get ready to pray to Jesus. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jan 18 22:40:05 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 18 02:49:51 2017. Neo-Nazis should never be able to openly operate under the protection of free speech. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:16:28 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 18 02:45:33 2017. I understand alright. I watched FIRSTHAND during Rudy's 1993 run. People living in Monsey, Kiryas Joel, and other upstate towns coming down to Williamsburg, Brooklyn en masse to vote for him. How do I know this? Because Grand Rebbe Tietelbaum's sons were fighting over who was going to take over once the Grand Rebbe died. So the camp of the one son who was in Williamsburg would point out to the poll watchers and others every time an upstate carload of former Brooklynites now living upstate came in to vote. I was directly told not to get involved in the Satmar family fued, so I didn't. True story. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:17:47 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Jan 17 22:39:23 2017. Why would't an adult have ID? They're GIVING it away with Warren's program! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:19:45 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 21:13:57 2017. Adults have to "adult" sometime... I was an unemployed kid and yet I got ID |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:26:28 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 17 15:38:25 2017. And I, as someone who already HAS medical coverage, shouldn't have to pay for other people's coverage. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:27:11 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 21:20:10 2017. I am aware of that. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:28:01 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jan 17 22:26:25 2017. Yep! |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 13:28:16 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:26:28 2017. You don't want to pay for things that benefit others? I recommend living in Somalia.In the US we do pay for things that benefit others. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:29:39 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 17 18:11:38 2017. What's wrong with charging a shoplifter with petit larceny?The same thing that's wrong with tossing out ILLEGAL aliens. Nothing. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:39:36 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:16:28 2017. Your post proves nothing and is meaningless. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:40:31 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:19:45 2017. Regardless of how you think things ought to be, lots of people don't have acceptable IDs, and yet they still have a right to vote. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:41:32 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:26:28 2017. LOL! Insurance is all about paying for others so that others pay for you if it ever became necessary. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:43:02 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:29:39 2017. There's nothing wrong with deporting illegal aliens if YOU pay for it. Just like you don't want to pay for other people's medical coverage, I don't want to pay for your massive deportation scheme. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:57:41 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:39:36 2017. It proves my point EXACTLY. If NY voters had to provide ID, maybe most of these upstate voters could have been prevented from voting back in NYC, where they once lived. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:58:58 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:40:31 2017. I'm not disagreeing with that. However, you should be able to prove who you are under reasonable circumstances. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:58:58 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:40:31 2017. I'm not disagreeing with that. However, you should be able to prove who you are under reasonable circumstances. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 14:00:24 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:26:28 2017. The people who want or need the ACA should be the ones contributing. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 14:01:50 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:43:02 2017. This should have been nipped in the bud 50 years ago. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 14:21:41 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:57:41 2017. Ah, you're saying they were who they say they were but voted out of a former address. That is in fact the most common form of voter fraud, and it can't be cured by voter ID. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 14:37:26 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 13:28:16 2017. LOL!!!! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 14:37:53 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:41:32 2017. The point is "paying". There are many who do not. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 19 14:47:25 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 17 15:37:37 2017. . I meant that if I was dead or moved away, and I was still on file, someone else can just sign for me and vote.Did you die to test out your dead hypothesis? If you die in NYC, a notice of your death certificate is forwarded to the Board of Elections and your name will be removed from the voter roll. I did not test this out on myself but somebody in my household did die. An election notice is sent out by the Board of Elections with do not forward/return to sender instructions. If the USPS follows these instructions, the Board of Elections will know you have moved and can take further action. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 14:54:39 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 14:21:41 2017. Exactly. They would still have ID with their former address. And in any event it doesn't require voter ID to cure. The whole point of voter registration is to weed out people who are ineligible. If an ineligible person makes it through, the valid ID solves nothing. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 14:56:07 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 14:00:24 2017. That doesn't make sense. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jan 19 14:56:50 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 14:00:24 2017. They are. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 14:57:31 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 14:01:50 2017. It wasn't, so we're talking about what should be done now or in the future. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 19 15:05:30 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:16:28 2017. So the camp of the one son who was in Williamsburg would point out to the poll watchers and others every time an upstate carload of former Brooklynites now living upstate came in to vote. I was directly told not to get involved in the Satmar family feud, so I didn't. True story.I think you fell for an urban legend. Too many agencies would have had to been on this for it to work. As I noted in an earlier post, the election notice is sent USPS first class with do not forward/return to sender instructions. If the people had moved and the USPS isn't in on this voter fraud, then the Board of Elections would be aware that the person was no longer a resident. The Board of Elections is staffed by equal numbers of Republican and Democratic party regulars. This is supposed to insure that no liberties are taken with the voting roll. The Satmar vote is known to be available to the highest bidder. It's not likely the party regulars would bend the election laws for a group whose allegiance were negotiable. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 15:11:01 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 19 15:05:30 2017. Some (maybe even many) people may not have told USPS that they moved, because they still had a way to get mail arriving at their old address.But then they wouldn't have told DMV either, so their driver's license would still have the old address and Voter ID would have done nothing. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 15:14:10 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 14:37:53 2017. Yeah, people on Medicaid. So what? I have no problem with subsidizing health insurance for the poor. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 15:46:41 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 15:14:10 2017. Honestly that 'I want to pay for my own f___ everyone else' attitude is what turn's me off to the right these days. Reminds of the story of the man telling Paul Ryan he didn't support Obamacare but now that he has cancer and it's saving his life he doesn't want it repealed. I'm happy he's getting the help he needs (for now) but how selfish of an attitude is that??? Couldn't give a shit when it helped others. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Jan 19 20:35:42 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 15:11:01 2017. Even if you do tell DMV your old address still shows on your license. They charge you to send a new one, you're supposed to put a sticker on the back with your real address on it (even though no one ever looks back there). |
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