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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 21:36:14 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jan 18 20:55:46 2017. I've been objective I've been the first to say I don't think Obama was the best but overall good for this country considering where this country was when he started. I defend him because imo the hate for him compared to past presidents esp compared to the damage the one bf him done to this country is frankly unprecedented. I think it says a lot that you think I love him just bc I'm and he's black. Following that logic I would have voted for Ben Carson and not support a white Bernie Sanders. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 21:50:27 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 18 20:35:28 2017. Everything. He let made it legal for them to get married and weighed in on the trans bathroom situation. Do I think he's the perfect pres for black ppl no but he's had to balance the fact that he's president of the US not just black ppl in America. I think he's done things to increase opportunities for lower income people in the realm of education, housing etc that helped black people and latinos in proportion most. I do however think he should have definitely done more for Flint. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Jan 18 22:30:03 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 21:50:27 2017. "Everything. He let made it legal for them to get married and weighed in on the trans bathroom situation."Exactly correct. Meanwhile black unemployment fell. Black teen high school graduation fell. Black home ownership fell. One of the few places where stats for blacks rose was the number of blacks on food stamps. By the way; How long does it take to get the sand out of your hair? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 18 22:49:58 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 21:50:27 2017. nobody did anything for flint |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 23:38:20 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Jan 18 22:30:03 2017. 1. Unemployment rate for blacks since recession according to the bureau of labor statistics ends Dec 2016 7.8 compared to 9.1 at Jan of 2008 an improvement(went up to high of 16.9 and back down through recession). Chart on website https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS140000062. Black Homeownership rates down slightly as with every other group at 41. in 2016 which is sagging I'll give Obama a failing mark for that. That has as much to do with bank loan practices and of course recession which caused rates to dip across the board. 3. Graduation rates are at highs across the board blacks included. For blacks at 74.6% at high compared to 67% in 2010. I can imagine before 2010 rates weren't as high as 74.6% High still needs to improve but on a good trajectory. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/260/improve-high-school-graduation-rates/ Black college graduation rates have also improved 2 out of 3 of your facts aren't true |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 23:39:58 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 18 22:49:58 2017. Agreed a damn shame across the boards falls on everybody's lap. Democrats, Republicans, City, State and Fed gov't. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 19 00:12:39 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Jan 18 22:30:03 2017. Meanwhile black unemployment fellBlack employment, right? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 19 01:21:08 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jan 18 13:11:22 2017. Well what would it look like if he had done something for black people? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jan 19 02:10:05 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 21:36:14 2017. he's not "black". nowhere near most of the black kids i went to school with. white mama. sooo...part ain't whole.this dude, earlier in life, obviously chose to front being black. thinks it's not cool, i suppose, to acknowledge his white half. (as a full blooded whitey i object to that stance). he's really like, a reverse whigger. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Jan 19 08:00:42 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 18 20:14:31 2017. True, but he's considered to be the first Black president. Case in point, from Bloomberg View today:"Obama was America’s first black president, which is a huge thing and a fine thing. But when you’ve said that, you've probably said what matters most about his time in office." |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 19 08:09:16 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by Dave on Thu Jan 19 08:00:42 2017. The man who wrote that is a complete idiot. He accuses Obama of a "lack of ambition", which is a pile of manure—by saying that, what did he want Obama to do to the USA?? He utterly falsely compares Obama to Thatcher too. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 08:52:16 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ntrainride on Thu Jan 19 02:10:05 2017. He's half black half white and he identifies with his black side it happens. I'm sure the way society sees him has a lot to do with it. The truth is he looks like a brown skinned black man. Heck there's black ppl in my family that's lighter than Barack Obama so it's of no suprise many black ppl don't see as half black half white but just sees him as black. Truth is almost no one in this country is 'pure' 100% anything. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 09:50:46 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by Dave on Thu Jan 19 08:00:42 2017. Yes, sad but true. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 09:52:49 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 08:52:16 2017. He's half black half white and he identifies with his black side it happens....and is racist against white people. Truth is almost no one in this country is 'pure' 100% anything. This is true, but he totally ignores, and even turns his nose up at his white heritage. If the reverse was true, people would be all over him. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 09:55:41 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 08:52:16 2017. Absolutely right. If you saw him and knew nothing about him, you'd assume he's black, even without any racist intent. And that's how he had to live his life. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 09:56:33 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 09:52:49 2017. 'He's half black half white and he identifies with his black side it happens....and is racist against white people.' Why? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 10:15:21 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 09:56:33 2017. That's not WHY he's racist towards white people, his actions show that.The fact that he completely turned his back on his white side is an aside. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 10:21:19 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 10:15:21 2017. How does his actions show that? Give an example.I find it interesting of the ppl who don't like Obama some think Obama is racist against white ppl but other's think Obama does nothing for blacks... interesting contrast on one man |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 10:47:10 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 10:21:19 2017. Salaamallah is Black and he says Obama has done nothing for Blacks. I agree with him. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jan 19 10:51:10 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 10:15:21 2017. He has neither done anything that anybody remotely neutral would consider to be racist against white people. He has not turned his back on his white side whatsoever. He is simply honest. |
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Posted by TonyG on Thu Jan 19 11:53:41 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 18 14:25:11 2017. Economically things are a lot better than Obama found them.Socially, the country is much more divided than it's ever been and Obama never really tried to unify divergent viewpoints. Obama led to a rise in overt racism, sexism, and bigotry. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 19 11:59:37 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 23:39:58 2017. i blame the michigan govonor |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 12:24:32 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by TonyG on Thu Jan 19 11:53:41 2017. Obama did try to be bipartisan, but it failed miserable. He'd have been a more effective president if he were more divisive. At least he rammed Obamacare through. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 13:08:13 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 12:24:32 2017. he was far from bipartisan. His way or no way. And he was very divisive. More divisive than any president I can think of. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 13:27:17 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 13:08:13 2017. he was far from bipartisan.But he did try. Why do you think Obamcare looks so much like Romneycare? He was trying to attract Republican support. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 13:43:47 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 10:47:10 2017. I know what Sallaam wrote. So you can't come up with an example of Obama being racist towards white ppl. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 13:44:58 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 13:27:17 2017. Exactly |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 14:36:54 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 13:27:17 2017. I love the nonsensical leftists reference to Massachusetts every time. It was a state policy. And Massachusetts is hardly a red state.it's always good for a good laugh though when that's mentioned. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 14:47:37 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 14:36:54 2017. It was a state policy.And Romney was the governor. It was his proposal and he's a Republican. Are you claiming that Obama did not choose the Romney model in order to attract Republicans? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 14:49:12 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 14:47:37 2017. I am saying that Romney was governor of a BLUE state. And a state system is totally different than a federal. So no. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 14:53:57 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 14:49:12 2017. I am saying that Romney was governor of a BLUE state.And? It was a popular model among Republicans and that's why Obama chose it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 15:05:07 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 14:53:57 2017. No, but okay |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 15:11:21 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 14:53:57 2017. Before it was RomneyCare, it was DoleCare, the Heritage Foundation's alternative to HillaryCare in 1994. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 19 20:13:04 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ntrainride on Wed Jan 18 20:00:21 2017. Any time your skin is normally a shade darker than "white", you are not "white". Period. Obama has more than a drop of "black blood" in him, and it shows, so by most standards in the US, he is "black". |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Jan 19 20:25:09 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 12:24:32 2017. I agree, in the beginning he tried to be bi-partisan on Obamacare. He co-opted a reasonable Republican healthcare plan in the hopes of full support and it sailing through congress. Clearly he underestimated how petty party politics is, and didn't understand negotiating 101: start with the extreme and let the opposition "win" concessions and pass a whittled down version, which unbeknownst to them is what you really wanted in the first place. If he had done that I'm pretty sure we'd have gotten ACA + public option (Medicare for all) and it might not be falling apart right now.That said, what we got has some glaring holes in it which are only going to get worse over time - when people who used to have affordable care are now finding themselves run through the ringer on premiums, clearly there's a problem. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 19 21:06:01 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 09:55:41 2017. ITAWTP |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 19 21:50:20 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 21:31:06 2017. I have the feeling, though, that he's not that well respected by the leaders of 2 key nations - Russia and China. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 22:19:13 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by 3-9 on Thu Jan 19 21:50:20 2017. Talking about Obama or Trump? With Trump don't think Putin respect's him as much as sees Trump as a puppet he can control. In China it's already contentious and will most likely get worse. To be fair relationship with those countries weren't great with Obama either in a we'll play nice but don't trust each other sort of way. |
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Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Saving My Country |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 20 10:01:46 2017, in response to President Obama's Legacy, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jan 18 09:02:21 2017.    
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jan 20 11:02:35 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Jan 19 22:19:13 2017. Talking about Obama there. Putin especially, I got the impression he was just pushing Obama around. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Jan 20 12:57:04 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 18 14:25:11 2017. YAWN. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Jan 20 13:02:37 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Saving My Country, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 20 10:01:46 2017. +1 |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 20 14:00:39 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Saving My Country, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 20 10:01:46 2017. Is that you in the lord boards holding up the sign? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jan 20 14:57:56 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Saving My Country, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 20 14:00:39 2017. I was that too. |
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Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Ruining My Country |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jan 20 14:58:55 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Saving My Country, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 20 14:00:39 2017. I was wondering that too. |
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Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Saving My Country. Signed, Ayatollah Khamenei |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 20 16:51:06 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Saving My Country, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 20 10:01:46 2017. That's a pack of lies on your post. One day you'll be very ashamed of them. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 20 17:29:12 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Saving My Country. Signed, Ayatollah Khamenei, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 20 16:51:06 2017. LOL! |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jan 20 21:40:58 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Saving My Country. Signed, Ayatollah Khamenei, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 20 17:29:12 2017. IAWLOL |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 20 22:07:37 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Saving My Country. Signed, Ayatollah Khamenei, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 20 17:29:12 2017. Of course you'd LOL, Spider-Nazi. Meanwhile, your ideological brethren are the only ones out there smashing windows and setting fire to limousines. (Larry King's limo, no less!) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 20 22:07:57 2017, in response to Re: President Obama's Legacy: Thank You for Saving My Country. Signed, Ayatollah Khamenei, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jan 20 21:40:58 2017. Don't be agreeing with Nazis, now. |
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