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Posted by Dave on Sun Dec 4 20:38:48 2016 ‘I Don’t Think that People Want a New Direction’ |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Dec 4 20:42:35 2016, in response to Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Dave on Sun Dec 4 20:38:48 2016. "Dead on balls accurate", nancy! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 4 21:07:55 2016, in response to Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Dave on Sun Dec 4 20:38:48 2016. She's correct. Most voters did not want Trump. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Dec 4 21:19:35 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 4 21:07:55 2016. More don't want Democrats. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 4 21:35:09 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Dec 4 21:19:35 2016. More people voted for the Democrat. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Dec 4 21:47:15 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 4 21:35:09 2016. In general, more support Republicans.More governors. More Senators. More Representatives. The trend is away from Democrats for middle class Americans who don't want their money redistributed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 4 21:59:20 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Dec 4 21:47:15 2016. I don’t know how the numbers worked out in this election, but in 2012 and 2014, more votes were cast for Democratic representatives than Republican ones. But like the Electoral College, Congress does not represent the country as a whole (nor should it, for that matter).So it’s not so much that the trend is away from Democrats, it’s just away from the rural rotten boroughs that continue to control the country and get subsidized by the more prosperous blue areas. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Dec 4 22:06:05 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 4 21:35:09 2016. You're conflating the presidential race with the senatorial/congressional/gubernatorial races. |
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Re: Pelosi - what a moron |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 4 22:06:30 2016, in response to Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Dave on Sun Dec 4 20:38:48 2016. Title corrected. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 4 22:11:19 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a moron, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 4 22:06:30 2016. Guess you've never watched Warner Brothers' cartoons? But then again, I wasn't aware of your love for Democrat Blagojevich until recently. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 4 22:25:46 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Dave on Sun Dec 4 22:06:05 2016. No, I'm not. I explicitly stated I don't know how the overall voting for the House broke down in 2016. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Dec 4 23:31:26 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 4 22:25:46 2016. Well, let's look at governor races. Before the election there were 31 Republican and 18 Democratic governors. After the election, there were 3 more Republican and 3 less Democratic governors. The difference was just about 600,000 more Republican votes than Democratic votes in just 11 state elections. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Dec 4 23:58:59 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 4 22:11:19 2016. lol good one. always considered bugs to be a brooklyn boy. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 00:45:30 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Dec 4 23:31:26 2016. That isn’t a representative sample because a minority of states held gubernatorial elections in 2016. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 01:05:50 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Dec 4 23:31:26 2016. Also, look at Senate and House races. Democrats gained two senate seats and 6 house seats. Every state had House races and 34 states had Senate races, as opposed to only 12 for governors. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Dec 5 01:37:59 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 00:45:30 2016. It still proves my point regardless of how you want to view it |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Dec 5 01:39:15 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 01:05:50 2016. Count the votes in those races and see which way the majority voted across all those races |
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Posted by Charles G on Mon Dec 5 06:37:41 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 4 21:07:55 2016. "I don't think people want a new direction" is not contradicted by "Most voters did not want Trump".Clinton was the candidate most associated with status quo. The statement "I don't think people want a new direction" would be contradicted by "Most voters did not want Clinton". And the statement "Most voters did not want Clinton" is a true statement. So I think it is fair to say that Pelosi's statement is incorrect when looking at vote counts in the General Election. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 08:08:07 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Dec 5 01:37:59 2016. It absolutely does not. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 08:09:40 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Dec 5 01:39:15 2016. Republicans have the majority in House races and Democrats in Senate races. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 08:12:21 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Charles G on Mon Dec 5 06:37:41 2016. Votes for Johnson and Stein don't count as the vast majority of those are well aware they're not voting for someone who will actually win. It's not clear which of the two real candidates they would have preferred. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 5 08:56:33 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Charles G on Mon Dec 5 06:37:41 2016. OK, let's ignore SP's quite valid reply and consider that 48% voted for Clinton and 52% did not.The 48% who did, per your logic, supported the standard quasi-liberal status quo. However, the 52% who did not were all over the place, just as Trump the candidate was all over the place. Among the 52%, you don't have overwhelming (or even particularly strong) support for higher tariffs, for repealing ACA, for lower taxes on the wealthy, for reducing environmental regulation, for transferring federal land to the states, for government subsidies to companies in return for not transferring work out of the United States, for reducing our involvement in Europe and Asia, or for significant changes to Medicare or Social Security. So on what topic do you think a majority of Americans truly want a new direction? Probably increased federal infrastructure spending, accomplished without increasing taxes or the budget deficit. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Dec 5 10:06:59 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by ntrainride on Sun Dec 4 23:58:59 2016. If only...Disclaimer: I have lived in South Florida for 18 1/2 years (and yes, I agree entirely with that cartoon) :) |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Dec 5 11:07:22 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Dec 5 10:06:59 2016. awww, florida is like, long island as a state. |
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Pelosi—what a racist |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 11:14:13 2016, in response to Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Dave on Sun Dec 4 20:38:48 2016.   |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 5 11:20:41 2016, in response to Pelosi—what a racist, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 11:14:13 2016. Explain why it is racist to expect members of minority groups to be qualified for the positions to which they are appointed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 11:21:38 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi—what a racist, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 5 11:20:41 2016. LOL!!! |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 5 11:27:32 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi—what a racist, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 11:21:38 2016. Exactly. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 11:53:44 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi—what a racist, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 5 11:27:32 2016. No it's hysterical on your part. But you knew that's what I meant. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 11:55:38 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 4 21:59:20 2016. LOL!!! |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 5 12:03:09 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi—what a racist, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 11:53:44 2016. No, it's laughable on Olog's part.There is no American in a position of political responsibility today who suggests that minority members be appointed to positions for which they are not qualified. It is just Olog (and possibly also you) who is pretending that there are such people. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 5 12:09:25 2016, in response to Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Dave on Sun Dec 4 20:38:48 2016. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 12:27:04 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 11:55:38 2016. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/03/opinion/sunday/why-blue-states-are-the-real-tea-party.html |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 12:41:52 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 12:27:04 2016. I stopped reading at the third line that said 'Opinion". |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 5 12:48:29 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 12:41:52 2016. LOL again.SP cited some facts. You laughed at his facts. He cited a source for his facts. You dismiss the source because it also expresses opinions. So is it your view that just because someone expresses an opinion, the facts they cite to support their opinion can't be believed? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 12:51:17 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 5 12:48:29 2016. I don't read "news" opinion articles. You know the saying, opinions are like assholes....everyone has one. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Dec 5 12:54:01 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi—what a racist, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 5 12:03:09 2016. Obama was woefully unqualified to be POTUS, but there are plenty here who would call me racist for that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 13:16:08 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 12:51:17 2016. Too bad. Keep your head in the sand. But don't bother responding to my better posts with your ignorant bullshit. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 5 13:18:40 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 12:51:17 2016. I don't read "news" opinion articles.That's pretty ignorant/wrong, considering that you were asked to read the article for the supposed facts in contains and not for the opinions it contains. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 5 13:18:55 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 12:51:17 2016. I don't read "news" opinion articles.That's pretty ignorant/wrong, considering that you were asked to read the article for the supposed facts it* contains and not for the opinions it contains. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 5 13:40:24 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi—what a racist, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Dec 5 12:54:01 2016. If he were not so ideologically corrupt, he might have been a good president considering his skills. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 13:48:09 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi—what a racist, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Dec 5 12:54:01 2016. Given who was just elected president, calling anyone woefully unqualified to be president is like saying that the sun is a little hot. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 13:48:31 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi—what a racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 13:48:09 2016. Wait, I think that analogy broke down. Disregard. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 14:07:23 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 13:16:08 2016. Unfortunately it wasn't one of your better posts. You have always been reasonable, until this past election, and you sort of went off the deep end. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 14:09:08 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Dec 5 13:18:55 2016. I am so sick of political commentary. I have had enough. Whatever "facts" may or may not be in opinion articles are lost to all the push of partisan BS. And that goes for both political spectrums. Any fact can be swayed through opinion however the writer wants it presented.I've had enough. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 5 14:11:18 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 14:07:23 2016. Perhaps you should look at your own posts and your failure to note how drastically Trump differs from every single one of the hundred plus major party candidates who have previously run for president.(Well, maybe, just maybe, Trump could be considered comparable to Aaron Burr.) |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Dec 5 14:11:30 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 5 12:09:25 2016. We'll let you know when we need a sock puppet to agree with Selkirk or Bingbong on something. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 5 14:13:09 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 5 14:11:18 2016. I NEVER stated he wasn't "different" than all other candidates in modern history. that's a given. But that doesn't make him necessarily a "bad" president. Believe me, I have had my doubts about him. But currently, as of yet, I am cautiously optimistic on what he will be. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Dec 5 14:20:58 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi—what a racist, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 5 13:48:31 2016. Motion to Strike Granted. Jury will disregard. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Dec 5 14:41:47 2016, in response to Re: Pelosi - what a maroon, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 4 22:11:19 2016.  Sure, every morning when I was a kid.
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