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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 24 12:10:34 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 11:52:57 2016.

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That's dramatic. Let alone incomparable.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 24 12:20:59 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 24 10:35:41 2016.

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Bullshit.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 24 12:22:10 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 24 12:20:59 2016.

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same back at ya davey from texassss

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 24 12:23:02 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 04:28:29 2016.

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iawtp

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sat Sep 24 12:23:50 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 11:52:57 2016.

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Well in England, most police do not carry guns so I doubt it.


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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 24 12:46:57 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 24 12:10:34 2016.

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Why?


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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 13:00:22 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 24 12:10:34 2016.

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How so? I'm trying to compare American policing tactics to the rest of the world.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Fred G on Sat Sep 24 13:01:37 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Sep 24 03:54:08 2016.

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Which is why when being pulled over, it's common knowledge (as well as courteous), to shut the engine, open the window, turn the lights on (if at night), and keep your hands on the wheel.

Nobody does any of that shit LOL. You're not gonna put your hands on the wheel, you're not going to shut the car off because that's your climate control summer or winter , and you're not gonna put the interior light on because of privacy. I realize that some of the people on this board would offer to suck the cop's dick or carpet munch if it's a female but none of that is necessary 😂😂👍🏽

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 13:38:50 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 24 12:46:57 2016.

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Countries the size of a small us state

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 24 15:01:41 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 13:38:50 2016.

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False, and irrelevant.




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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 15:03:10 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 13:38:50 2016.

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Huh? All of those countries have at least double the population of California and Mexico has quadruple. Mexico is also three times larger than Texas. Hardly small. Admittedly England is about the size of the munchkin state of NY.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 15:26:26 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 15:03:10 2016.

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England is about the size of Alabama, and France is about thesize of two Colorado's. And Mexico ? Obviously large, but we are trying to even remotely compare violence in us to mMexico'sviolence? And say iit's an example for us? Lmao.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 15:27:10 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 24 15:01:41 2016.

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Hardly false and completely relevant.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 15:36:19 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 15:26:26 2016.

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Except that these countries' size, even if they were as characterized, is completely irrelevant.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 15:36:24 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 15:26:26 2016.

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No. I'm saying that the powers that we willingly give police to be our judge and executioner for doing things like taking our hands off steering wheels or walking towards our cars is unprecedented in the civilized world. I'm trying to use real world examples to show that.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 15:44:10 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 15:36:19 2016.

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True. It's not like we have a national police force. Ok we do, but that's different than the local police.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 15:50:01 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 15:36:24 2016.

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Again, Mexico of all places? And again, trying to compare other Western countries with totally different sizes, population, etc also is irrelevant. What works and ddoesn't work here and what doest work or works elsewhere really is irrelevant.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 16:00:46 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 15:36:19 2016.

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But so is attempting to compare how these other countries police.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 16:02:29 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 15:50:01 2016.

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If anything, Mexico would be the most relevant comparison, as it is far more violent than the United States and police officers are more likely to be killed by someone they stop on the road.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 16:04:31 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 16:00:46 2016.

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It is an entirely valid comparison.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Sep 24 16:09:51 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 15:27:10 2016.

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I'm sure if you breakdown the numbers into percentages thereby making the population difference irrelevant the US killing unarmed citizen would still blow other countries out the water. With a possible exception being Mexico.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 16:19:11 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 16:02:29 2016.

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Okay, but how does that help their claim on how the US has an issue of racist cops easily killing black suspects of crime?

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 16:21:23 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 16:04:31 2016.

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Not at all. Completely difference situations and circumstance

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 16:22:59 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Sep 24 16:09:51 2016.

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Go ahead, don'tjust claim , prove your statement.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 24 16:25:28 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 15:26:26 2016.

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Obviously large, but we are trying to even remotely compare violence in us to mMexico'sviolence?

Mexico is much more violent than the US. But his point, whether true or not, is that you are SAFER from the police in Mexico than in the US.

And France's population is 66 million whereas Colorado's is 5.4 million, so your numbers are WAY off.



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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 16:37:33 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 16:21:23 2016.

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You have made no such demonstration.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 24 17:02:11 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 24 16:25:28 2016.

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LOL.



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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Sep 24 17:06:11 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 16:22:59 2016.

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Ok but the information isn't terribly hard to find.

You might not respect the source but the numbers aren't made up and can be reaearched.

From site
'Fact: In the first 24 days of 2015, police in the US fatally shot more people than police did in England and Wales, combined, over the past 24 years.

Behind the numbers: According to The Counted, the Guardian’s special project to track every police killing this year, there were 59 fatal police shootings in the US for the days between 1 January and 24 January.

According to data collected by the UK advocacy group Inquest, there have been 55 fatal police shootings – total – in England and Wales from 1990 to 2014.'
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The German Police University concluded in 2012 that German police had killed six people by gunshot in 2011 and seven in 2012.

According to the German data and the Guardian’s count, more unarmed black men (19) have been fatally shot by US police in 2015 than citizens of any race, armed or unarmed, fatally shot in Germany during all of 2010 and 2011 (15).

The US population is roughly four times that of Germany, and according to the World Bank, the US has a per capita intentional homicide rate five times that of Germany.'

'Behind the numbers: The Counted database shows that police in the US fatally shot 97 people in March 2015, the highest one-month total recorded by the Guardian.

A 2013 study from the Australian Institute of Criminology (AIC) found 94 fatal police shootings for the period between 1992 and 2011.'

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Sep 24 17:09:20 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Sep 24 17:06:11 2016.

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Link don't work but here's the website.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries i was referring to.

And another.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_police_firearm_use

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 24 17:16:50 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 16:37:33 2016.

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They don't speak English in France or Mexico. That makes those countries a different situation.

And England isn't a separate independent country. That makes England a different situation.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 24 17:43:59 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Sep 24 17:09:20 2016.

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The QB for Notre Dame is Deshone.

Deshone?

I guess de is prefix that is popular in Afrocentric names. Shone is Shawn in somewhat of a southern drawl.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 18:05:35 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 24 17:43:59 2016.

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DeShone is the past tense of DeShine. Some say that DeShined is correct.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 18:13:31 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 24 18:05:35 2016.

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lol

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 24 18:27:00 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 24 17:43:59 2016.

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huh ?

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 24 19:06:20 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 24 17:43:59 2016.

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I guess de is prefix that is popular in Afrocentric names

Why? It's a Norman prefix. Can't get whiter than that; they're French Vikings.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 19:15:20 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 24 17:16:50 2016.

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They don't speak English in France or Mexico. That makes those countries a different situation.

More leftist nonsense. Nothing better to come up with than that shit?

As for England, I didn't bring that up, but you know damn well he meant Great Britain.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 24 19:16:25 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 24 19:06:20 2016.

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Shone is Sean in today blackspeak.



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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 19:18:57 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Sep 24 17:06:11 2016.

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Link didn'twork, but are you accounting for population differences, or are you doing like the people tthat claim blacks commit less crime than whites, yet whites outnumber blacks 6 to 1. White crime would have to be 6 times the crime of whites to be even, yet its not even close.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 19:27:43 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 24 16:25:28 2016.

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But his point, whether true or not, is that you are SAFER from the police in Mexico than in the US.

I'd like to see stats on tthat claim.

As for France my stats were not off, thatwas obviously talking about size. If you want to talk about Frances 66 million population, the US has 322 million. So try again.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 24 19:35:22 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 13:38:50 2016.

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Countries not nearly as diverse as this.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 19:38:35 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 19:27:43 2016.

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What has France's size or population have to do with the way that American police forces operate at the local level? Couldn't you compare Paris' police force to NYC, Chicago or LA? All big city departments.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 19:39:42 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 24 19:35:22 2016.

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So it's our diversity that causes us to police differently? Say what you mean.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 20:12:30 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 19:38:35 2016.

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That's not what was suggested, but go ahead, show the stats

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 20:44:02 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 20:12:30 2016.

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I'm not following. Suggested by me or by you? I don't know where to find the stats other than what was already posted for the entire country.


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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 24 20:55:22 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 19:39:42 2016.

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I did say what I mean. We have many more cultures and backgrounds here than other places around the globe.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 24 20:56:14 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Fred G on Sat Sep 24 13:01:37 2016.

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That's outrageous.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 20:57:09 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 20:44:02 2016.

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I didn't suggest that they were so much better than the US stats.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 24 21:02:52 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 19:15:20 2016.

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OK, Great Britain doesn't fit any of your criteria for being different from the US.


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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 21:05:25 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 24 21:02:52 2016.

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Oh please. Yeah, it's exactly the same.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 24 21:12:11 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 24 19:15:20 2016.

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I didn't mean Great Britain btw. I meant England which in fact is a country.

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