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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 19:03:10 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Sep 20 18:16:27 2016.

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what gun ? he was UNARMED with his hands UP

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 19:04:36 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 18:18:28 2016.

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no they still would have SHOT him

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 19:05:05 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 18:59:58 2016.

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And it's impossible for the police to mind read.


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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 19:10:24 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 19:04:36 2016.

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What are you talking about?

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 19:22:34 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 19:03:10 2016.

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but apparently disobeying by going towards his auto as more cops arrived. Why he didn't stay still with hands up, well, it's a game. Do what you want.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 19:30:05 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 20 17:50:16 2016.

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A big issue about that case was the notion the plain clothes officers didn't ID themselves to Sean Bell and his friends. Its not like Sean Bell tried to run over uniformed cops. If Bell is in his car and ppl in plain clothes pull guns on him not knowing they are cops i can understand him pressing on the gas in the interest of self preservation.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 19:33:31 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 19:30:05 2016.

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anyone hanging out in a bar in that neighborhood that late at night, knows cops a mile away.

People like you, WayneyJay, railman, Easy, would not last a minute in a black bar like Kalua.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 19:34:30 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 19:04:36 2016.

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i doubt it.

He cleverly escalated the situation by moving towards the driver's door of his auto.



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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 20:11:31 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 19:10:24 2016.

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the truth

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 20:11:36 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 19:10:24 2016.

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the truth

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 20:12:16 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 19:22:34 2016.

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was he told to do that ? do you know ?

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 20:12:48 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 19:33:31 2016.

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I'm going to ignore your attempted troll job here.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 20:13:36 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 19:34:30 2016.

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did not rise to MURDER him

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 20:30:35 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 20 18:31:58 2016.

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Pray? What religion are you now?

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Sep 20 20:34:35 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 19:34:30 2016.

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Considering the outcome, his escalation wasn't so clever. My question is why? Why didn't he just stop? If he had a weapon in the car, why has it not been reported? It seems that the whole story has not yet been heard

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 20:34:55 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 20:12:48 2016.

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Well you responded so you did not ignore.

Kalua was a shoot em up bar.

I will do a trollthread on Thursday.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 20:45:43 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 20:11:31 2016.

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No. That's asinine.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Sep 20 21:00:57 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 19:05:05 2016.

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And hindsight is 20/20.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Sep 20 21:02:34 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 16:39:55 2016.

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Because it doesn't fit the agenda

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 21:06:43 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Sep 20 21:02:34 2016.

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notice how no one responds.

Easy
WayneyJay
JayZeeBMt
Seltwirp
biggbong
SUBWAYMAN
Tony G
dand124
Dave
salaamallahakbar

all say dick shit now, and when I threaded about the shooting of an unarmed fleeing suspect.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 21:18:57 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 16:39:55 2016.

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Didnt see it actually. I'm not on subchat but the times you've everyday directed me to one of your threads i didn't respond to i have and responded have i not?

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 21:20:54 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Sep 20 21:00:57 2016.

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Playing General after the war

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 21:35:14 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Sep 20 21:00:57 2016.

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And yet it was possible for a terror suspect to have a shootout with the cops shoot two of em and said suspect is arrested with a bullet graze to the arm.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Sep 20 21:39:33 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 21:35:14 2016.

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Yes, and people are apprehended everyday, black and white, like that. The point?

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 21:44:27 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 21:35:14 2016.

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Are you intimating that the police took it easy on the guy in jersey but were harder on the guy in the video?

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 21:51:44 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 21:20:54 2016.

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Funny how some cops can show incredible restraint in interest of preserving human life while others kill for 'passive aggression' Am i saying all cops are racist no, not even saying the majority are racist but imo there's enough officer's out here with racial bias that reflects how they deal with different ppl in similar situations. And let's keep it real there's other cops out here that have no business having a gun and badge. And the lack of accountability and excuses made for those officer's are astounding and give all cops a bad name.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 21:54:09 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 21:44:27 2016.

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You tell me how i'm supposed to see it. According to your logic and police training that man should be dead as a doornail.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 22:08:07 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 21:54:09 2016.

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Tell me what you think should have been different

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 22:14:58 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Sep 20 21:39:33 2016.

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That's my point! Unarmed ppl who are combative, ppl who run, hell ppl who are armed (although i completely understand if an officer shoot a sudpect who points a gun at them) are apprehemdef ALIVE everyday. So when a cop says they have no choice but to kill an unarmed man i call bullshit bc it happens everyday!

I'm sorry but the example's of officer's showing restraint in dealing with suspects tells me yes it is possible to not kill so easily. So yes i ecpect more and will always expect more when it comes to human lives.


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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 22:22:17 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 22:08:07 2016.

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The difference is that terror suspect has information they need so they actually have a vested interest in keeping him alive.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 22:35:27 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 22:22:17 2016.

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If someone is posing a threat they're going down either way. Fact is nobody is that good a shot with a handgun. Regardless of what tv shows or movies portray.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 22:36:44 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 22:22:17 2016.

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Does any audio exist of these incidents

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 23:01:53 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 22:35:27 2016.

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The problem is the term 'posing a threat' is relative. Actions of an individual may be enough to pose a threat while that same action might not constitute posing a threat to someone else. In this case one officer felt the situation with the man from tulsa was enough to be dealt with using his taser while his partner felt using her gun was appropriate.
Another case in point Officer frlt he could have deesculated the situation with his words using his military training and his coworkers and superiors obviously felt otherwise since he lost his job.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 23:27:31 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 22:36:44 2016.

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no

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 23:39:38 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Easy on Tue Sep 20 02:42:01 2016.

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thanks easy : )

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 23:54:01 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 23:01:53 2016.

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If the taser stopped him the gun would not have come out.
In Tulsa do you think they simply shot first so they could possibly ask questions later? What wound up happening in that second incident anyway?

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 23:54:26 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 20 23:27:31 2016.

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That's a doggone shame.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 23:55:54 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 00:43:47 2016.

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You're only responding to what you saw. You didn't see the beginning and never heard any audio, did you?

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by OCTD 2039 on Wed Sep 21 00:47:57 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Sep 20 09:25:00 2016.

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I will always finish homework before posting. They're gonna kill jihad!

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Sep 21 00:56:11 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 22:35:27 2016.

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The problem is the term 'posing a threat' is relative. Actions of an individual may be enough to pose a threat while that same action might not constitute posing a threat to someone else. In this case one officer felt the situation with the man from tulsa was enough to be dealt with using his taser while his partner felt using her gun was appropriate.
Another case in point Officer frlt he could have deesculated the situation with his words using his military training and his coworkers and superiors obviously felt otherwise since he lost his job.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Sep 21 01:02:16 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 20 23:54:26 2016.

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why

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 21 02:01:49 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Sep 21 00:56:11 2016.

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Charlotte NC

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 21 02:02:30 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by OCTD 2039 on Wed Sep 21 00:47:57 2016.

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Feminism will kill all religions.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ntrainride on Wed Sep 21 03:18:05 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 20 03:32:56 2016.

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forget it, man, no mattėr you say to somė folks, they still gonna tėll you chalk is chėese.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 21 03:24:14 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ntrainride on Wed Sep 21 03:18:05 2016.

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he's walking back to the auto, the driver's side door, like he's going to get back in his auto.

These people think like is a WSHH video.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by ntrainride on Wed Sep 21 05:50:56 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Sep 20 21:51:44 2016.

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i hear you...like, black cops taking out frustrations on and being aggressive towards white perps. the punch to the belly of a handcuffed young white kid. that kinda stuff.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 21 08:48:14 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Sep 21 01:02:16 2016.

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Because it would be interesting to hear what was going on. If the man was in panic mode and pleading for his life then you'd be on to something here. Maybe. But if you could hear the man saying something else or perhaps nothing at all and retreating to the vehicle we would understand what happened much better.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 21 08:53:10 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Sep 21 00:56:11 2016.

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How do you know those officers weren't doing the same thing as the guy that got axed?

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by Joe V on Wed Sep 21 14:17:49 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 21 03:24:14 2016.

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"like" does not constitute fact. The car window was closed. He did exactly what they told him to do. The bitch officer had no grunds to shoot to kill.

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Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Sep 21 14:19:13 2016, in response to Re: Tulsa Police shooting of unarmed black man, posted by Joe V on Wed Sep 21 14:17:49 2016.

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"bitch?". You a misogynist liberal, yo?

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