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Re: Half of Americans oppose Kaepernick ''protest'': poll
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Sun Sep 25 12:03:36 2016, in response to Re: Half of Americans oppose Kaepernick ''protest'': poll, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 25 10:28:53 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Oh please. They are no more included in one side or the other, but that's the shit of liberal statistics
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Re: Half of Americans oppose Kaepernick ''protest'': poll
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Sun Sep 25 12:05:34 2016, in response to Re: Half of Americans oppose Kaepernick ''protest'': poll, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 25 10:28:24 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d You can't argue with word humping leftists.
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Re: Bye Bye Kaepernick
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Sep 25 12:27:05 2016, in response to Re: Bye Bye Kaepernick, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Sep 25 09:14:06 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d I'm not. He sees contradictions where they don't exist.
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"Kaepernick Effect" causing low NFL ratings
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Oct 4 15:21:07 2016, in response to Bye Bye Kaepernick, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Sep 20 18:01:15 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yahoo Sports Colin Kaepernick bringing dialogue and low NFL ratings Steve Rivera Oct 4, 2016, 2:46 PM The latest of the Colin Kaepernick effect was felt across the football landscape this weekend. Beginning with high school football games, to members of the East Carolina Marching Band refusing to play the National Anthem, the “Kaepernick effect” is far reaching and exposing layers to our national season of discontent and discourse. It’s also having an effect on perennial ratings darling, the National Football League. #hashtagBoycottNFL is working, and media watchers, ad people, and the folks at Forbes.com are beginning to talk about a trend likely not to change anytime soon. Regardless of your personal views or your politics, the conventional wisdom that the “too big to fail” NFL may find itself at a crossroads it can’t ignore or placate much longer. Twitter posts omitted; they're at the link.
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by LuchAAA* on Tue Oct 4 15:36:48 2016, in response to "Kaepernick Effect" causing low NFL ratings, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 4 15:21:07 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Its also part of reason why Trump is still a contender. I watched gamed this weekend but if Nielsen ever calls I'd lie and say I watched something else. Ratings are also down because Manning retired, Brady was suspended, and there are few marquis QBs to draw ratings. But I agree that the NFL is too political. Blacks make e everything political. Look at ESPN.
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by SMAZ* on Tue Oct 4 15:55:13 2016, in response to Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 4 15:36:48 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Blacks make e everything political.
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com* on Tue Oct 4 16:00:05 2016, in response to Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 4 15:36:48 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by LuchAAA* on Tue Oct 4 16:05:06 2016, in response to Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 15:55:13 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Last year Gronkowski did a cruise. Video of drunk Gronk and others went viral. Some blacks on ESPN made a racial issue out of it. So I never watched ESPN again. Maybe it's white SJWs who script the segments. I don't know. Most blacks in everyday life don't seem so racial or political. Tebow. He's a Met last I heard.
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by LuchAAA* on Tue Oct 4 16:06:33 2016, in response to Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Oct 4 16:00:05 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Did you see AlMs NYT Brentwood thread? People need to participate.
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com* on Tue Oct 4 16:10:21 2016, in response to Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 4 16:06:33 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d ok
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by Easy* on Tue Oct 4 17:39:44 2016, in response to Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 4 15:55:13 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d It's a shame what y'all did to Tebow just because he's a Christian.
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by LuchAAA* on Tue Oct 4 18:03:34 2016, in response to Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 4 17:39:44 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yeah. They made him wealthier.
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Re: Bye Bye Kaepernick
Posted by Elkeeper* on Tue Oct 4 18:32:15 2016, in response to Re: Bye Bye Kaepernick, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Sep 21 19:40:57 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d I just hope that "Special K" doesn't join the Jets!
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Re: Bye Bye Kaepernick
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Tue Oct 4 18:36:37 2016, in response to Re: Bye Bye Kaepernick, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Oct 4 18:32:15 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d or the Bears.
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by Henry R32 #3730* on Tue Oct 4 19:06:42 2016, in response to "Kaepernick Effect" causing low NFL ratings, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 4 15:21:07 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d I am not surprised. And I know it's harsh, but I'm going to echo the statements said about it: when you're paid to be there, you're a performer. You can't do what you want - you have no more rights than an actor would on stage/screen. Play your part. Whenever I wasn't feeling patriotic at school I'd just not say the pledge of allegiance. But I wasn't stupid enough to be visible about it!
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by AlM* on Tue Oct 4 19:26:24 2016, in response to Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Oct 4 19:06:42 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d You can't* do what you want - you have no more rights than an actor would on stage/screen. Play your part.* Actually, it all depends what your contract says. But I agree the employer has a right to insist on a "no political statements" clause in the contract. No prayer either, for that matter.
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by R2ChinaTown* on Tue Oct 4 20:26:26 2016, in response to Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Oct 4 19:06:42 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Sensible POV
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Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Oct 5 01:19:19 2016, in response to Bye Bye Kaepernick, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Sep 20 18:01:15 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Forbes NFL's 'Monday Night Football' Keeps Dropping In Ratings Brandon Katz, contributor Oct 4, 2016 @ 02:01 PM There’s no denying that the numerous #BoycottNFL online campaigns and fan outrage aimed at the National Anthem protests in the NFL have taken a toll in terms of viewership. Additionally, cord-cutting continues to eat into traditional TV’s ratings at an alarming rate. But could there be something else at play? We’re barely a year removed from the NFL setting all-time records in viewership, yet now the league is on pace for its lowest ratings in years. That’s a sharp and unexpectedly sudden turn. Given the politicized controversies and the variety of streaming options this year, have we reached a cumulative point of football fatigue? The numbers suggest so. Last night’s Monday Night Football matchup between the Minnesota Vikings and New York Giants drew a 9.1 overnight rating, an 8% drop from last year’s comparable Week 4 game between the Detroit Lions and Seattle Seahawks. The New England Patriots and Kansas City Chiefs game in 2014 earned a 9.6 rating. While the number of streaming viewers has increased — last night’s game attracted 262,000 average minute viewers on digital platforms, a 23% increase from last year — total viewership is still trending downward. Last week’s Monday Night Football game unsurprisingly got clobbered in the ratings thanks to the presidential debate. That game drew a 5.7 overnight rating, the lowest in MNF history. Overall, MNF’s ratings are down a whopping 19% this year, according to Sports Illustrated’s Richard Deitsch. Now that the numbers have come in for last night’s game, we can safely label the NFL’s ratings problems as a larger trend. The question now becomes how does the NFL fix the problem?
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by MTK52983* on Wed Oct 5 06:38:34 2016, in response to Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 5 01:19:19 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d There are other reasons besides Kaepernick, although he certainly has not helped. One MNF was going up against a Presidential Debate. Other games have not involved evenly matched teams. Finally, the announcing. John Gruden has a lot of knowledge, but that does not translate into announcing skills. When he is openly rooting for one of the teams (for example, in this week's Giants/Vikings game he stated that he hoped the Vikings K would make a FG) it turns off audiences. On a national broadcast, the announcers should not be so overt in rooting for one of the teams.
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by LuchAAA* on Wed Oct 5 08:30:43 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by MTK52983 on Wed Oct 5 06:38:34 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yup. MNF had not been the flagship for years. It's only going to get worse. NFL ratings should drop without Manning, Marshawn Lynch, plus Brady missing beginning of season. Antics of Odell Beckham don't help. Cam Newton lost so much of his sizzle. Aaron Rodgers seems past his prime. Now the NFL will start its Breast Cancer campaign which is more about marketing and PR than the issue itself.
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by R2ChinaTown* on Wed Oct 5 10:05:37 2016, in response to Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 5 01:19:19 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d NFL rules have made the game tedious. I've already seen several 1st and 30+ situations because of back to back to back penalties. The game has lost spontaneity. Add to that the injury protocols and the political subdramas and I find myself switching back and forth between the game and James Bond reruns on cable.
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com* on Wed Oct 5 12:03:24 2016, in response to Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 5 01:19:19 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d for one thing monday night footbqall is on CABLE
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 5 12:04:56 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 5 12:03:24 2016. fiogf49gjkf0d correction monday night football is on CABLE most people do not have cable
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Oct 5 12:11:52 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 5 12:04:56 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Most people DO have cable.
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com* on Wed Oct 5 12:16:46 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 5 12:11:52 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d proof ? its very expensive
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Oct 5 12:20:26 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 5 12:16:46 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d LOL!
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com* on Wed Oct 5 12:23:55 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 5 12:20:26 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d where is your proof mr lol
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by Catfish 44* on Wed Oct 5 13:50:05 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 5 12:04:56 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d I don't know if it's true that most people do not have cable but enough do not that there was a big deal about the change from analog to digital in '09.
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com* on Wed Oct 5 13:56:54 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 5 13:50:05 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d true we have a D/A converter box
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by Catfish 44* on Wed Oct 5 13:57:02 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Oct 5 10:05:37 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Good post. In my opinion the quality of the product had declined. There are many variables included such as the rules and the over analysis of every play. The players may be bigger, stronger, etc but that hasn't made for better football players. MNF was an institution when I was younger. Now I almost forget that it's on and I almost never watch it.
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Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings
Posted by SMAZ* on Wed Oct 5 16:16:23 2016, in response to Re: ''Kaepernick Effect'' causing low NFL ratings, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Oct 4 19:06:42 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d So buy the 49ers and order him to stand up.
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by TerrApin Station* on Wed Oct 5 20:03:57 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 5 12:20:26 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Hahahaha Iawtp
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 5 20:04:13 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 5 12:16:46 2016. fiogf49gjkf0d LOL hahahahahahaha
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 5 20:20:31 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 5 20:04:13 2016. fiogf49gjkf0d STFU turtle
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Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 5 20:20:48 2016, in response to Re: Monday Night Football overall ratings down 19 percent, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 5 20:03:57 2016. fiogf49gjkf0d ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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NFL downplays disrespect for National Anthem, instead blames other factors for ratings drop
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sat Oct 8 08:41:26 2016, in response to Bye Bye Kaepernick, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Sep 20 18:01:15 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Dow Jones Business News via Nasdaq.com NFL Blames 'Confluence of Events' for Ratings Declines October 07, 2016, 11:55:00 AM EDT The National Football League has sent a memo to team owners seeking to ease concerns about the ratings decline that has hit football this fall. Through the first four weeks of the season, NFL viewership has declined 11%, and among the crucial adults 18-49 demographic that advertisers covet, ratings are down 12%. "While our partners, like us, would have liked to see higher ratings, they remain confident in the NFL and unconcerned about a long-term issue," the letter from NFL senior executives Brian Rolapp and Howard Katz said, adding that over the last 15 years, ratings viewership has grown 27% and that football "continues to be far and away the most powerful programming on television and the best place for brands and advertisers." As for a potential backlash by some viewers angered at players not standing for the national anthem to protest of police brutality, the NFL said it sees no evidence to that being a factor in declining ratings: "In fact, our own data shows that the perception of the NFL and its players is actually up in 2016." The NFL said it was issuing the memo to all the teams in response to media inquiries about the decline in ratings. Long seen as invincible against the trends and changing media habits that have negatively affected other programming, network executives and advertisers have been scrambling to figure out if this is a short-term blip because of political news or the start of a long-term trend. Not everyone is convinced that Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are solely to blame. Some industry analysts note that as the NFL continues to place product on more digital platforms, a negative hit to the broadcast partners is more likely. Others cite that the NFL may have hit saturation level with games on all day Sunday, as well as a Monday and Thursday game. In addition to the election coverage and some fans angered at the protests, another factor NFL media chief Brian Rolapp cited i n a Wall Street Journal interview was the absence of some marquee players due to injury and retirement, as another possible cause of the lower ratings. Interestingly, ratings for college football have been up this season.
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Re: NFL downplays disrespect for National Anthem, instead blames other factors for ratings drop
Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 8 09:13:21 2016, in response to NFL downplays disrespect for National Anthem, instead blames other factors for ratings drop, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 8 08:41:26 2016. fiogf49gjkf0d Who is your favorite team?
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Re: NFL downplays disrespect for National Anthem, instead blames other factors for ratings drop
Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 8 09:43:31 2016, in response to Re: NFL downplays disrespect for National Anthem, instead blames other factors for ratings drop, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 8 09:13:21 2016. fiogf49gjkf0d
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Re: NFL downplays disrespect for National Anthem, instead blames other factors for ratings drop
Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 8 10:09:37 2016, in response to Re: NFL downplays disrespect for National Anthem, instead blames other factors for ratings drop, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 8 09:13:21 2016. fiogf49gjkf0d Don't have one. My sister likes the Pats, though, and a good friend of mine actually likes the Vikes.
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Re: NFL downplays disrespect for National Anthem, instead blames other factors for ratings drop
Posted by R2Chinatown on Sat Oct 8 11:24:15 2016, in response to Re: NFL downplays disrespect for National Anthem, instead blames other factors for ratings drop, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 8 10:09:37 2016. fiogf49gjkf0d Vikings seem like the real deal so far. Lets give it till the end of week 8 before we start planning the superbowl party, though. I still like my Jaguars although I will probably only get to 2 games this year.
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