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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 11:10:07 2016 When he says Hillary Clinton's entire story about him is a lie? |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Aug 23 11:25:34 2016, in response to So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 11:10:07 2016. I wouldn't put it past him. He has a history of "exaggeration". |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 11:26:05 2016, in response to So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 11:10:07 2016. “Her people have been trying to pin it on me,” Powell, who was secretary of State under President George W. Bush, told People at an event in the Hamptons this weekend. “The truth is she was using [her email setup] for a year before I sent her a memo telling her what I did.”That statement is almost certainly true. That doesn't mean that Clinton didn't know about Powell's use of private email, and use it as part of her justification, long before he sent the memo. The career staff at State would have known all about it. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 11:56:08 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 11:26:05 2016. That doesn't mean that Clinton didn't know about Powell's use of private emailDo you think that the difference between Powell's use of private email for non-classified information and Hillary's use of a personally controlled private server is insignificant? |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 11:56:54 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by Easy on Tue Aug 23 11:25:34 2016. Have some examples of his exaggeration? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 12:01:23 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 11:26:05 2016. Given the sequence of events I'd ssay he is confused to be polite. A dinner where the idea came up was quite certainly at the start of her tenure, as to welcome he to the "diplomatic community". If he contacted her later about it,Face it, a multicourse meal with multiple glasses of wine (Powell is a wine lover) people say things they then forget at these things. I doubt anything malicious was intended. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 12:12:30 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 11:56:08 2016. It's not insignificant. Clinton's email account on a private server was probably more secure than Powell's AOL account.Which doesn't mean she should have done it. But you asked. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 12:32:03 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 12:12:30 2016. Nobody is contending Powell sent classified material on his AOL account. But Hillary had classified material on her private server. Is that an unimportant difference? |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 12:33:25 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 12:01:23 2016. So you're saying Clinton is honest and Powell's a drunk. Do you think Powell is out of line to deny Clinton's account so bluntly? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 12:34:13 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 12:32:03 2016. No, but that's not the question you asked.It would have been equally inappropriate to send classified material to an AOL account. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 12:35:31 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 12:34:13 2016. It would have been equally inappropriate to send classified material to an AOL account.That's true. Do you think he did? |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Aug 23 13:08:40 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 11:56:54 2016. Evidence of nuclear materials in Iraq was a big one. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 13:18:13 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by Easy on Tue Aug 23 13:08:40 2016. Didn't he publicly disagree with the Bush administration about that? |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 13:21:28 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 12:01:23 2016. Powell, a wine lover? Maybe he drinks Thunderbird wrapped in a brown paper bag. Your racist stereotypes are disgusting. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 13:26:02 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 13:21:28 2016. No, no. bb is just confused. It's Native Americans you have to keep away from the fire water. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Aug 23 13:45:43 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 13:18:13 2016. After the fact? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 13:53:28 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 12:33:25 2016. Where did that conclusion come from?I do think Hillary Clinton is being honest about the server. It was not illegal at the time. THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST HAS TO BE DRILLED INTO A LOT OF MINDS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. Colin Powell is not a drunk. Lots f non drunks do drink wine at dinner parties nevertheless. Yes, I think he is making far more of this than it was ever meant to be. So is much of the rest of the country. A not terribly bright idea has already been made illegal. That should be the end of it. Time to move forward, not in reverse. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 13:56:42 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 11:56:54 2016. Holding up a vial of face powder at the UN claiming it was Iraqi anthrax is a mighty big one. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 13:57:12 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SLRT on Tue Aug 23 12:35:31 2016. I have no reason to think he did. Neither did Clinton. People sent classified material to her; she didn't send any. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 14:00:23 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 13:21:28 2016. Yes, he has quite a nice cellar from what I've read. Although I think the stuff is best enjoyed.You have no clue, but you have plenty of racism. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 15:00:25 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 14:00:23 2016. From what you've read? Where, racist? Show proof? |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 15:01:33 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 13:53:28 2016. Hillary Clinton is as honest as you. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 15:01:34 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 13:53:28 2016. Hillary Clinton is as honest as you. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 15:33:23 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 13:56:42 2016. Interesting! 2 weeks ago, when you claimed that he was backing up Hillary's lies, he was the paragon of virtue and honesty. You really have no integrity, do you? |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 15:43:33 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by Easy on Tue Aug 23 13:45:43 2016. I thought that was one of the reasons that he quit. Hillary would have no similar ethical prob problems. B |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Aug 23 17:27:09 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 15:43:33 2016. He staked his reputation on the accuracy of the information he presented. That information turned out to be wildly wrong. His reputation was ruined. That's my recollection. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 23 17:58:33 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by Easy on Tue Aug 23 17:27:09 2016. That's what I recall happening as well. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 23 18:06:18 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 13:57:12 2016. Wrong.From Factcheck.org: At a March 10 press conference, Clinton addressed her unusual email arrangement. Her office at the time said that on Dec. 5, 2014, it gave the State Department 30,490 printed copies of work-related emails. Clinton said none of them contained classified information. Clinton, March 10, 2015: I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material. So I’m certainly well-aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material. On the same day, her office released a Q&A that said a “separate, closed email system was used by the State Department for the sole purpose of handling classified communications which was designed to prevent such information from being transmitted anywhere other than within that system.” But about four months later, the inspectors general of the State Department and the Intelligence Community reviewed 40 of Clinton’s emails and found that four did contain classified information, referring the case to the FBI for what they called an investigation into the “potential compromise of classified information.” The inspectors general said the four emails “did not contain classification markings.” After the inspectors general reported its findings, Clinton and her campaign amended their public statements to say that she did not send or receive information that was marked classified. But that has turned out to be false, too. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 18:26:03 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 15:00:25 2016. Where did I read it? Stuff you have zero interest in. And before the nineties so it isn't on the internet. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 23 18:31:31 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 13:21:28 2016. Thunderbird? Seriously? And you're claiming OTHER people are racist swine? Wow. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Aug 23 18:31:55 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by Easy on Tue Aug 23 11:25:34 2016. He's a GENERAL. They are ALL LIARS. It's all about keeping the $$$$$ flowing to the SHITagon TOILET. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 18:39:14 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Aug 23 15:33:23 2016. When did this not happen?I mentioned his quote frm the dinner party. Now it's a whole rigamarole and Powells story changes. It's quite clear you did not read what I wrote. Stop lying. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Aug 23 22:59:42 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 18:39:14 2016. He says that he doesn't recall the dinner party. Pictures or it didn't happen. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Aug 23 23:05:31 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by bingbong on Tue Aug 23 18:26:03 2016. Show proof or you are lying again.... |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 24 07:48:08 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Aug 23 18:31:55 2016. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 24 10:16:49 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Aug 23 22:59:42 2016. He doesn't recall a lot. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 24 10:40:40 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 24 10:16:49 2016. Condi Rice also denies the conversation took place. Is she also incorrect? |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Aug 24 11:33:47 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 23 18:31:31 2016. Back in the day I drank Thunderbird, though I preferred Ripple.Is there a problem? |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 24 14:48:45 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SLRT on Wed Aug 24 11:33:47 2016. MD 20-20! |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Aug 24 15:28:19 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SLRT on Wed Aug 24 11:33:47 2016. Selturd just looking to vent. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 24 17:41:38 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SLRT on Wed Aug 24 11:33:47 2016. Worst I ever did was Boone's Farm ... blech. :) |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 25 09:42:16 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 24 17:41:38 2016. Yuck! Do you think I have NO standards? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 25 17:32:55 2016, in response to Re: So, Is Colin Powell Lying, posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 25 09:42:16 2016. Heh. Well ... you do hang out on OT chat. :) |
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