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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 11 10:58:46 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 10:01:47 2016.

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Klutz.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 11:55:03 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jul 11 10:34:18 2016.

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Hillary is a fine candidate once all the lies about her are stripped away.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 11:59:13 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jul 11 10:34:18 2016.

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Hillary is a viable candidate. But she is very flawed and it would be better if she weren't the last hope against Trump.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 11 12:18:35 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 11:55:03 2016.

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Carpet bagger.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 12:19:13 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 11 12:18:35 2016.

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The original carpetbaggers were heroes.

I've used that phrase so many times that it was autocompleted for me.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jul 11 12:25:55 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 12:19:13 2016.

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Ok genuis, what word or term should I use for someone who moves to a state, or jurisdiction that they don't live in, and rum for an office that doesn't represent them?

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 12:38:42 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 12:19:13 2016.

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She earned that Senate seat. Same as she's earned the full throated support of progressives, women, minorities and soon the rest of you guys on e you get off your whiny asses and see that she has infrastructure ideas that will give you construction jobs. Plenty of them.

All we hear out of trump in whiny haters. That's not going to fix that crumbling bridge.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 12:44:11 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jul 11 12:25:55 2016.

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You're using the right term. I was just making a point.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 11 12:58:18 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 12:44:11 2016.

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FYI, In 2004 I did not vote for Alan Keyes for senator for that same reason.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 13:04:00 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 11 12:58:18 2016.

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So you actually voted for Obama?

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 11 13:09:00 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 13:04:00 2016.

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No, I actually left that blank.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 11 13:27:17 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 11:59:13 2016.

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I would contend that her flaws have been greatly exaggerated.

She has made some very dubious choices. So has every single successful politician. Hers have just been investigated and publicized to death.

She has decided to stay married to a serial adulterer in order to advance her career. Right, she's the first woman ever to stand by her man for somewhat selfish reasons.

She and Bill hung out with some shady characters they should have kept away from in Whitewater and lost money from it. She got a (qualified) friend in as White House travel agent, getting the in-house staff fired - that was unfair but run of the mill. She bought a bill of goods from Cheney on Iraq, but she trusted Colin Powell and he got snookered too.

She agreed to stick with the State Department's sloppy culture on information security, but she didn't invent that culture, she just didn't use her efforts to kill it off, but let it benefit her. She didn't meddle in physical security for embassies, but why would she? Not her job. No more than Commander in Chief Reagan told the Marines they didn't have enough security in Beirut.

Meanwhile Trump stole $40 million and his defense-friendly "Mexican" judge agreed to defer the trial until after the election.

Trump is extreme in the other direction, but what politician hasn't done some really stupid things? Rubio committed credit card fraud and was lucky the defrauded party was too embarrassed to prosecute. Sanders has made some whoppers of bad political decisions. How about Gingrich? How about Cuomo, to pick a prominent Democrat?

And so on. I don't approve of Clinton's choices, but there's nothing really unusual about them. Maybe we should go for pure and innocent presidents like Carter and Dukakis. :)






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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jul 11 13:30:25 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 11:55:03 2016.

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What lies?

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 11 15:08:54 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 11:55:03 2016.

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Excuse me!

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 11 15:10:01 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 12:38:42 2016.

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Excuse me

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 16:07:01 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jul 11 13:30:25 2016.

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just about everything you've heard about her is a lie.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 11 16:50:36 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 16:07:01 2016.

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Excuse me.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jul 11 17:49:58 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 16:07:01 2016.

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You are a total moron.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 18:50:27 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jul 11 17:49:58 2016.

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That is a lie a well, and it doesn't change the fact that just about everything you've heard aout her is a lie.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jul 11 19:26:10 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 18:50:27 2016.

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No. You come with your own proof.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 19:36:57 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 10 23:30:57 2016.

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Your post is contradictory. My point stands that you're just being political and I am being realistic.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 11 19:46:57 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 10 23:30:57 2016.

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You treat it as if its actually for real.

???

TS can try to play with your head some times with indirection, but here he's being very straightforward. Are you really unable to understand what he's writing?



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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 19:55:42 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jul 11 19:26:10 2016.

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Lulz. So why are you constantly asking for any? We ave no proof you even exist, much less remember to breathe.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 19:58:43 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 19:36:57 2016.

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No you are not being realistic. You're being hateful, which is aout the only thing ever seen from you.


Realistic peole state that it is highly unlikely....virtually impossible, at that, for trump to win.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 11 19:58:46 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 19:55:42 2016.

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True. We don't even have proof that R2 isn't just a misspelled Chrysler.



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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 11 20:10:12 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 11 19:58:46 2016.

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As idiotic as our favorite vehicle may have been at times, R2D2 has him surpassed by light years. I suspect that R2D2 is actually a Yugo without benefit of the rear window electric hand warmer.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 20:46:06 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 19:58:43 2016.

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Yes I'm being realistic. No I'm not being hateful. Not in the least bit. You are being political and asinine.

It's doesn't matter what the polls say. It's not impossible for Trump to win.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jul 11 21:03:04 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 19:55:42 2016.

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Klutz

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jul 11 21:41:13 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 11 13:27:17 2016.

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"...she's the first woman ever to stand by her man for somewhat selfish reasons."

Wrong. U r forgetting about Jackie O.

"I would contend that her flaws have been greatly exaggerated."

I disagree. The accusations about her were real & Indictable.IMO, The FBI chief got cold feet. If he recommended an indictment, that would have determined who would be the next president, straight answer. He didn't want to be an answer to a trivia question in history. He didn't want that responsibility. Nope, not me!! Any other time, any other place, Hillary would probably be in an orange jumpsuit by now.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 21:45:34 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jul 11 21:41:13 2016.

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Bullshit. The president can always be replaced on the ticket. If the FBI director thought that indictment was reasonable, he'd have recommended indictment.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 21:46:53 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 20:46:06 2016.

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That post is very hateful.

It is damn near impossible for trump to win. It's also quite clear in your messages here that you would prefer seeing that happen. When did you get so hateful?




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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 11 21:47:36 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 21:46:53 2016.

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Excuse me.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by R30A on Mon Jul 11 21:48:50 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 21:46:53 2016.

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It is unlikely he will win, but far from impossible.

(I have a pretty good track record here... ;) )

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 21:53:07 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 21:46:53 2016.

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LOL!

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 21:53:17 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by R30A on Mon Jul 11 21:48:50 2016.

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Good post.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jul 11 22:10:11 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 21:46:53 2016.

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Pot meet kettle

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 22:20:06 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 21:53:17 2016.

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Iawtp.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 22:20:14 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by R30A on Mon Jul 11 21:48:50 2016.

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I agree.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 22:20:23 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 21:53:07 2016.

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:)

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 11 22:22:31 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 21:46:53 2016.

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It's like I'm talking to a wall. What did I just say? Why do you reply as if I didn't just say what I just said? What is your problem?

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 22:32:53 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jul 11 22:10:11 2016.

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Where did I say or act in a manner that is hateful to TS in this thread? He's wrong, he behaves like a full throated trumper. The idea of trump becomng president should be an anathema to all Americans. He is not capable of handling the job. In some way he still has no idea what the job really is.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jul 11 23:05:00 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 21:45:34 2016.

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"The president can always be replaced on the ticket"

I think you mean the nominee.

That said, IMO If Hillary got indicted & dumped from the ticket, that will hand over the election to Trump on a silver platter.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 23:09:56 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jul 11 23:05:00 2016.

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Yes, I mean the nominee. And Clinton isn't even the nominee yet!

I don't agree with that. Practically everyone who currently supports Clinton would vote for anyone over Trump.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Jul 11 23:15:34 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 11 20:10:12 2016.

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I'm wondering if R2D2 is really Train Dude or just a troll that took a page from him.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 11 23:16:54 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Jul 11 23:15:34 2016.

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I'd say the latter, I haven't ever seen an original thought out of him yet. :)

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by MTK52983 on Mon Jul 11 23:30:50 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 22:32:53 2016.

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Whenever someone wants to own a loaded gun. Whenever someone wants to practice their religion. Whenever someone does not 100% agree with Hillary Clinton. Whenever anyone disagrees with you. Whenever anyone believes that abortion is murder.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 23:33:33 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by MTK52983 on Mon Jul 11 23:30:50 2016.

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Believe all you want that abortion is murder, that a Trump presidency would be anything other than a disaster, that gay marriage is immoral. But so long as you do that, stay out of everyone else's way.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by MTK52983 on Mon Jul 11 23:37:34 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 11 23:33:33 2016.

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Not saying I agree with all of what I wrote. Bingbong asked for examples of when she was hateful.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 23:40:40 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jul 11 23:05:00 2016.

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Doubtful. Trump has such high negatives among major demographic groups. These are remaining high and it's unlikely he'll do much about them as well.

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Re: Interesting electoral vote situation

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 11 23:50:36 2016, in response to Re: Interesting electoral vote situation, posted by MTK52983 on Mon Jul 11 23:37:34 2016.

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No, I didn't. Yes, anyone that would attempt to interfere with a woman's decisions about her reproductive life is hateful, as they don't think an adult female is capable of making such decisions, and/or would impse their own religious dogma on a non participant. It's called misogyny.

Like the old bumper sticker says....hate abortion? Don't have one.

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