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Posted by AlM on Mon May 23 10:46:01 2016, in response to The house of cards is falling, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 23 10:37:59 2016. Yes, Trump might win. But I see a lot more Clintons than Trumps in the poll results right now. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 23 10:50:36 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by AlM on Mon May 23 10:46:01 2016. Oh, that's ENTIRELY possible, but you KNOW she's having a fit somewhere today because of the latest numbers, and is probably blaming Sanders! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 10:52:07 2016, in response to The house of cards is falling, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 23 10:37:59 2016. And you're celebrating this? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 23 10:58:27 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 10:52:07 2016. I'm HARDLY celebrating this, as it's May. Too early. What I would LIKE to see happen is Sanders convince the superdelegates at the convention to switch over to him, thus shutting her out as the chosen candidate. We'll see if this happens or not. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 10:59:36 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 23 10:58:27 2016. I don't as I think Sanders is a one issue candidate who would make a terrible president. Still better than Trump, though. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 23 11:05:40 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 10:59:36 2016. For personal reasons, I cannot stand Killary. Bill is OK, as he really wants nothing to do with her, and he just puts up the facade of a marriage. I personally think that Trump is gonna chew her up and spit her out in the debates and she's gonna "get shook". Yes, I know there's BOUND to be dirt on Trump, but his camp will say that he was a businessman up until now, but SHE'S been a politician who should know better. Plus, he's too egotistical to care what she says about him.Meanwhile, Bernie watches silently..... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:09:13 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 23 11:05:40 2016. I don't understand why Hillary is so hated. It goes further than legitimate political disagreement. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:11:37 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by AlM on Mon May 23 10:46:01 2016. But Trump wasn't even supposed to come close. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:14:14 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 10:59:36 2016. Sanders vs. Trump is a frightening possibility. Don't be certain Trump would be worse than Sanders, since that seems to be the operative dynamic. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:15:10 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:14:14 2016. Why shouldn't I be certain that Trump would be worse than Sanders? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 11:25:53 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 23 10:50:36 2016. Doubtful. Early polls are often wrong. I don't see Trump getting anywhere. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 11:27:11 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 23 10:58:27 2016. That's not happening. Everyone knows Sanders would be the weaker cndidate. Don't forget that the reason he appears to poll better is that nobody's been attacking him. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:30:19 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:15:10 2016. Because Trump has a sense that whatever he wants to do he'll need to deal with politics; i.e., make deals.Sanders is, as you say (and I've said) a single issue candidate. He exhibits no sense of reality about what he can do and how he can do it. When asked by the Daily News how he would accomplish his goals (the mechanics of it) he had no clue or understanding of even current law. When asked how he would deal with a hostile congress, he said that if congress wouldn't pass his legislation "the people" would throw them out and elect people who would. That's beyond unrealistic, that's psychotic. That doesn't channel his hero Eugene V. Debs; that channels Stalin. But Stalin could and would kill his opponents; I don't Bernie can do that. What do you think Sanders could do better except that he is "Not Trump"? |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:32:10 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 11:27:11 2016. I know it and you know it, but Sanders people and the MSM keep waving poll results that say Sanders would be more likely to beat Trump. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 11:33:17 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 23 11:05:40 2016. Okay, you're a misogynist. That's quite clear. Their marriage is no facade. Bill is truly in full on ufor this. They're slao human, so there's been mistakes, everyone makes them. Yet she has a better idea of what the job involves than anyone on this earth and Trump, well, is not a politican. He has NO CLUE as to what the job is, much less any aptitude to learn it. He can't even mamnge a real campaign. Campaigns are closer to a business as it gets. How the fook is he going to handle the office. Government is NOT run like business, it simply can't work the same. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon May 23 11:35:37 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:11:37 2016. You are correct, sir! |
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Posted by Dave on Mon May 23 11:36:59 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:09:13 2016. In some respects she reminds me of Leona Helmsley. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:37:52 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:30:19 2016. That's exactly why he's better. I don't want Trump to be able to make deals and get stuff done because I don't think anything he would get done would be good. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:40:46 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:11:37 2016. I think it was just denial at the possibility. There were people who predicted a Trump nomination accurately and were ignored. This is why I don't take the "it won't be Trump" claims seriously. It remains to be seen. We can't rest on our laurels. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 11:41:12 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:32:10 2016. Themedia has been prefacing that result for some time now. .trump hasn't spent any effort on Sanders since he knows there's no point in spending resources on the noncandidate.Sanders right now is a zombie candidte. He has barely enough money for a few rallies in California. At those rallies he may get enough money to pay off his FEC fines and return illegally obtained contributions. That's right, he got caught by the Fed. Got fork? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:41:32 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Dave on Mon May 23 11:36:59 2016. Why? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 11:42:29 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:40:46 2016. Nobody is. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:44:05 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:37:52 2016. So you think Bernie will be better because he'll be unable to govern? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:45:07 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:44:05 2016. I think Bernie will be better because inability to govern is better than any governing by Trump. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon May 23 11:45:46 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:41:32 2016. Arrogant; thinks rules don't apply to her; thinks she's always the smartest person in the room. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:46:26 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Dave on Mon May 23 11:45:46 2016. So she's just like Trump? |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:49:34 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:45:07 2016. Especially because you're making a comparison I find that without hard logic. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:50:21 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:49:34 2016. ? |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:51:18 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 11:41:12 2016. Zombie candidate? Good one!What happens when you stick a fork in him and he turns around and eats your brains? |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:52:38 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:50:21 2016. You're basing an assertion on a feeling, not a rational comparison of what would actually happen if one of other were elected. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:56:18 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:52:38 2016. That's bullshit. It's not a "feeling" that I don't want Trump's ideas to be enacted. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:58:30 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 11:56:18 2016. Oh, you don't want Trump's ideas to be enacted.That says it all. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon May 23 11:59:16 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 23 10:58:27 2016. What I would LIKE to see happen is Sanders convince the superdelegates at the convention to switch over to him, thus shutting her out as the chosen candidate. We'll see if this happens or not.LOL. Sanders and his supporters made it clear earlier this year that the superdelegates had better support the winner of the primaries or there would be hell to pay. Now that the winner of the primaries is known, the superdelegates will stick with that winner. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 12:00:01 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:58:30 2016. What's your point? I should change my opinion to conform with the Trumpenproletariat's? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 12:06:33 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:58:30 2016. I would like to know what trump's "ideas" ARE, beyond his stupid wall which will never happen and his embargo of Muslims, which is foolish and probably unconstitutional. His "economic" plans thus far are widely considered a total fail. We will lose trade wars. We will lose allies.So we truly have ni idea what this guy wants to actually do. Clock's running, and so far I see not much beyond the same seventy-nine cents we've seen since January. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 12:08:12 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:51:18 2016. You have to be very very careful. :-) |
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Posted by AlM on Mon May 23 12:11:59 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:30:19 2016. What do you think Sanders could do better except that he is "Not Trump"?Better to have a president that would do nothing than one who would do the things Trump has promised to do. Sanders would get nothing done. Trump proposes to destroy the Constitution and the economy. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon May 23 12:14:20 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Dave on Mon May 23 11:45:46 2016. Arrogant; thinks rules don't apply to her; thinks she's always the smartest person in the room.Not sure about the rules part, but she likely is usually the smartest person in the room. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon May 23 12:15:12 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 11:32:10 2016. The MSM is waking up.And besides, it doesn't matter. Clinton has won the primaries, barring an indictment. Yes, it's inconvenient for her that Sanders isn't rolling over and playing dead, but it's not disastrous. Eventually most Sanders voters who say they are "undecided" when polled will realize that Clinton isn't really that bad. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 12:16:42 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 12:00:01 2016. I wondering why Sanders doesn't much bother you. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 12:19:33 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 12:06:33 2016. So do you agree with Pigs that a Trump Presidency is more dangerous than a President who can't govern? |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 12:22:10 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by AlM on Mon May 23 12:11:59 2016. I don't think Trump will be able to "destroy" the Constitution and the economy, even if he "proposed" to.I also don't think you are giving enough consideration to the effects of a President who can't govern. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 12:22:26 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by AlM on Mon May 23 12:11:59 2016. I don't think Trump will be able to "destroy" the Constitution and the economy, even if you think he has "proposed" to.I also don't think you are giving enough consideration to the effects of a President who can't govern. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 12:24:41 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon May 23 12:14:20 2016. Add to that trump thinks he's the same, and isn't. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 12:27:02 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by AlM on Mon May 23 12:15:12 2016. When they realize that there's about two inches of difference on policy they'll vote Clinton. Plus the most devoted faction of Sanders supporters are seeking to spin off a Stop Trump campaign for the fall, we'll see what come sof it but that's their stated objective. Seeing there,s only one means to actually stop trump....... |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 12:28:13 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by AlM on Mon May 23 12:15:12 2016. A lot of Bernie's supporters are very very angry people. A lot also have more enthusiasm than political experience or political sense.It is in the nature of young people that they are full of principles as well as ignorance. That isn't a knock. That kind of feeling is unpredictable and not necessarily amenable to "oh that candidate's really not so bad." The generation gap lives. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon May 23 12:30:18 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 12:19:33 2016. Absolutely. Especially since we don't even know what a trump presidency would do. At least with Sanders we know wha will happen. Even better, we know what will happen with Clinton, and it's the best of the choices.What we really need is a Democratic Senate and hopefully the House, though that may have to wait. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 23 12:32:24 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by SLRT on Mon May 23 12:22:10 2016. You just said he would be able to "make deals." He would make deals to implement his destructive agenda. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon May 23 12:34:10 2016, in response to Re: The house of cards is falling, posted by AlM on Mon May 23 12:15:12 2016. Eventually most Sanders voters who say they are "undecided" when polled will realize that Clinton isn't really that bad.They will realize that Trump will be worse. Trump helped by announcing his potential Supreme Court nominees. |
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