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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 17 20:44:02 2016 "Most people know exactly what New York values are....Believe me, if i could say 'liberal Jews', I would" |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 17 20:48:02 2016, in response to New York Values, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 17 20:44:02 2016. You're sure he doesn't mean liberal Irish Catholics? :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jan 17 20:56:14 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 17 20:48:02 2016. seems like you're challenging me to a #summitWhen I come up north I will visit Our Lady of Mt St. Carmel in Astoria Queens. Our Lady of Mercy in Forest Hills. And perhaps one you recommend. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jan 17 21:42:47 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 17 20:48:02 2016. seems like you're challenging me to a #summitWhen I come up north I will visit Our Lady of Mt St. Carmel in Astoria Queens. Our Lady of Mercy in Forest Hills. And perhaps one you recommend. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 18 00:01:18 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jan 17 20:56:14 2016. LOLUCH! No such parish as Our Lady of Mt. St. Carmel. Some Catholic you are.It's, of course, Our Lady of Mount Carmel. I went to school there through third grade. The school is now closed. :-( |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 00:03:34 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 18 00:01:18 2016. YEs. I typed too much.That's the church I'm going to to hear Father Ogle. Sad you went there and turned out this way. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 18 00:04:23 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 00:03:34 2016. LOLUCH! They instilled in me my New York Values. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 00:10:32 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 18 00:04:23 2016. sad to see so many Catholic schools closing.Society will pay a price. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 18 00:16:54 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 00:10:32 2016. I agree that Catholic schools are generally a good thing. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 18 00:21:26 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 18 00:04:23 2016. HAHAHA!!! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 00:21:33 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 18 00:16:54 2016. Father Ogle is at your old parish. Seems like they have a lot of Ecuadoreans and Mexicans now. Without them there would be no parish.St. Brigid's is like that too. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 18 02:11:06 2016, in response to New York Values, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 17 20:44:02 2016. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 02:29:30 2016, in response to New York Values, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 17 20:44:02 2016. banning MMA. That's a NY value. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 03:14:55 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 02:29:30 2016. No guns.No trans-fats. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 03:29:57 2016, in response to New York Values, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 17 20:44:02 2016. Even National Review figured that out ...http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429860/ted-cruz-new-york-values-anti-semitic-jezebel And for cred ... http://www.nationalreview.com/about Contrast and compare to what passes for "conservative" these days which actually ENDORSES that crap. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 03:53:59 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 03:29:57 2016. New York City is not as Jewish as it was decades ago. Just desperation by you commies to sway voters.Sad but typical. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 04:15:52 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 03:53:59 2016. Absolutely. But look at what aboriginal throwbacks today's neandercons are. They're still living in a 19th century American mindset and can't even AOL. :)They actually BELIEVE that shit. You're welcome. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 04:19:32 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 03:53:59 2016. Absolutely. But look at what aboriginal throwbacks today's neandercons are. They're still living in a 19th century American mindset and can't even AOL. :)They actually BELIEVE that shit. You're welcome. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 04:22:26 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 04:19:32 2016. Whoops! Refreshed, wasn't there twice, so posted.
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 18 04:43:03 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 03:14:55 2016. No trans-fats.You are behind the times. There are no trans-fats anywhere in America. NY did it first. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 18 04:55:44 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 03:29:57 2016. I've been saying it here for years.libruls, big city lawyers, Hollywood, yoonyuns, godless, Soros, Christian Nation, etc. Cruz fucked up bad. He should have used one of the above code words instead of the nakedly obvious "we all know what New York Values are". Indeed everybody does when a right-winger puts it in such carelessly stark terms. Even Pat Buchanan wouldn't have been that stupid. He just blew his chance at winning primaries in delegate-rich CA, NY, NJ, IL, FL, MA, PA etc, He is not a genius after all. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 04:59:36 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 18 04:55:44 2016. We all KNOW what "librul" means (except for the completely uneducated of course) ... Norman Lear, Barbra Streisand, Mel Brooks, Baba Wawa and all of the other catholics who run Hollywood and have turned all of our children into raving faggots so that the Jews can rule the world. :-\And yeah, with the likes of FOX News to spray that febreez, history fresh and clean and no trace of odor which means they can let off another silent but deadly and it's OK. Watch this end up being just another unnoticed SBD that no one will admit to. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 18 05:07:38 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 04:59:36 2016. at least Trump, to his credit, when talking to a forum of Republican Jews (all 14 of them), limited himself to offensive, condescending micro-aggressions. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 05:28:06 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 18 05:07:38 2016. TBH, I find all sides of this reprehensible. I'm also saddened that so many of our own folks here can't see it for what it is. I'm not Jewish, but the grandparents who survived and made it over here made it a point to educate me in all of this as well when I was young. I can't believe that we're laying the ground (and accepting it) for "again" as in "never."The bile being peddled has been done before, and it really didn't turn out well. How can we POSSIBLY go there again? :( |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 18 05:53:34 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 03:29:57 2016. Even National Review figured that out ...No. The piece quotes a blogger as saying that Cruz was talking about Jews, and then says they says they don't believe the blogger. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 05:53:49 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 03:53:59 2016. And yeah ... one more.Do you have ANY idea as to who "National Review" is? Founded by William F Buckley, and REAL republicans, not your fake-ass shit. Needed to be said. If THEY'RE publishing that, then you kids are about to get a beating. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 05:55:54 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 18 05:53:34 2016. I saw that. I'm sure you're old enough to remember National Review for what it once was. Yeah, the internet site is different from the print edition which I still subscribe to even after the 80's, but their editorial standards in even putting it on their site is an editorial.That they did though is a pretty serious statement from the "old guard." It means something. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 14:00:19 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 03:29:57 2016. See, this is what I don't understand. You left New York for our upstate paradise because you hated "New York Values". You said that it made you a potential violent person. You should agree with Trump. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 18 14:01:41 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 14:00:19 2016. Trump's statements on the "New York Values" fuss have been very sensible. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 14:05:44 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 18 14:01:41 2016. why? New Yorkers look down on the rest of AMerica. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 18 14:14:52 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 14:05:44 2016. What portion of this is looking down on the rest of America?“New York is a great place. It’s got great people. It’s got loving people, wonderful people,” Trump began. “When the World Trade Center came down, I saw something that no place on Earth could have handled more beautifully, more humanely than New York. You had two”—an interruption for applause, including from Cruz—“You had two 110-story buildings come crashing down.” Thousands of people killed and the cleanup started the next day, and it was the most horrific cleanup probably in the history of doing this. … I was down there. And I’ve never seen anything like it. And the people in New York fought and fought and fought, and we saw more death and even the smell of death; nobody understood it. And it was with us for months: the smell, the air. And we rebuilt downtown Manhattan, and everybody in the world watched, and everybody in the world loved New York and loved New Yorkers, and I have to tell you, that was a very insulting statement that Ted made. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 14:15:15 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 18 14:01:41 2016. My referring to Trump in my initial post was in error. I meant to refer to Ted Cruz. I apologize for that error.I am far from a Cruz supporter but I find the contention that's Cruz's "New York Values" are a code for "Jewish Values" to be ridiculous left wind liberal garbage. New Yorkers do have different values than people from other democratic run cities. It just seems to me that Trump and the liberals are trying to exploit the comment to derail Cruz's train. Alas, Trump is also not quite a true conservative. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 18 14:18:15 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 14:15:15 2016. I find the contention that's Cruz's "New York Values" are a code for "Jewish Values" to be ridiculous left wind liberal garbageThe fact that it was liberals that came up with such "code" (real tinfoil-hat moonbattery on their part) bespeaks their own antisemitism, never mind anti-Hispanicism. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 18 14:23:07 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 14:15:15 2016. I am far from a Cruz supporter but I find the contention that's Cruz's "New York Values" are a code for "Jewish Values" to be ridiculous left wind liberal garbage. I agree the evidence isn't there. Phrases like New York values are used both to attack all liberals, including non-Jews from Wagner and Lindsay to Dinkins, or they can be used specifically as a code word reference to Jews. That's the brilliance of using code words - you can say you didn't mean anything by it. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 14:34:10 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 18 14:23:07 2016. And what do you believe? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 18 14:45:17 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 14:34:10 2016. I believe Cruz is ignorant enough to not know how often "New York" has been used as a code word for Jew. So I will be happy to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he is denigrating all New Yorkers, and not just Jews. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 17:53:44 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 14:00:19 2016. Your "leap of logic" there turns out to be another belly flop. I didn't leave NYC because I despised Jews, I left because I got tired of all the bullshit. Has nothing to do with "values."As to Trump, I hope he wins. He's exactly what the GOP has bred and nurtured all these years and I couldn't think of anyone who fits the part more. Fits you guys to a "T". :) |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 17:56:07 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 17:53:44 2016. Where did I mention Jews? Your anti-Semitic slit is showing. What BS did you get tired of? Just wondering! |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 17:58:17 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 18 14:45:17 2016. That's mighty charitable of you. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 18:01:11 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 17:56:07 2016. I've explained it to you several times this past year, and have a long history of explaining it. I'm surprised that given your obsession with bingbong and I that you haven't printed it up and stuck it to your fridge with a few magnets already.Back to Ted Cruz though, you can make all the excuses you want - the word "liberal" as used in politics since the 60's has only had one meaning, and the use of it in conjunction with names of a singular religious affiliation is sufficient proof of its meaning even for idiots to figure out. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 18:06:43 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 18:01:11 2016. oh really? So then you and bingbong can't be liberals? And I make no excuses for Ted Cruz or anyone else. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 18:27:53 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 18:06:43 2016. If you really live upstate like you claim, then you would already know that there's no liberals up here. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 22:27:22 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 18:27:53 2016. SO far I find very little difference between "up here" and from Long Island people. I've not seen that magic transformation that you claim. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 18 22:47:57 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 17:53:44 2016. I left because I got tired of all the bullshit.What bullshit? There are two kinds of people. Those that can make it in NYC and those that can't. It's ok if you can't. I don't judge. But let's be clear: you left because you couldn't make it in NYC. What you're dismissing as bullshit is really just all the stuff that conspired against you making it in NYC. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I'm just saying. Stop beating around the bush. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 22:52:46 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 18 22:47:57 2016. LOL |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 23:10:36 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Jan 18 22:27:22 2016. You must be in Saratoga or Rensselaer county then, that's where they move to. It's very different out west. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 23:11:33 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 18 22:47:57 2016. Were you born in the city? That might be the reason why you see it like that. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jan 18 23:17:34 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 23:10:36 2016. But you aren't out west. You are south |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 18 23:20:29 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 23:11:33 2016. Were you born in the city?You're asking me to divulge the answer to my Apple account security question? I was told that I would never be asked that. That might be the reason why you see it like that.That I WAS born in the city or that I WAS NOT born in the city? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 23:25:07 2016, in response to Re: New York Values, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jan 18 23:17:34 2016. Of where? I know where I am and you're still not providing a landmark. |
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