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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 03:31:47 2015 Probably would have been better all around if they'd handed over to us, but then again why should Iran trust US given all the positioning by our political parties and allies? At least it got done somehow.https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2015/12/28/iran-hands-over-stockpile-enriched-uranium-russia/HpIYV7DCT6Zup5MPlzxm4L/story.html |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 29 07:17:58 2015, in response to Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 03:31:47 2015. Why? Because you're afraid that the Russians will be able to build a bomb now? |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 09:09:09 2015, in response to Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 03:31:47 2015. Oh, I feel much safer now. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 29 10:40:56 2015, in response to Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 03:31:47 2015. why should Iran trust USWhy not? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 13:04:16 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 29 07:17:58 2015. I think they already had some. :)Nah, with all this Iran stuff the past year and change here, looks like some things are getting done. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 13:06:04 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 29 10:40:56 2015. These guys?
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 29 13:10:57 2015, in response to Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 03:31:47 2015. Putin is making the world a better place... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 13:11:58 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 29 13:10:57 2015. Hardly ... pretty sad though that he ended up being the one with the keys to the car. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 29 13:21:55 2015, in response to Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 03:31:47 2015. The day after it was agreed that Iran will not use or import uranium from overseas,the day after, Iran announced that it has discovered a massive uranium deposit at home. Nothing to see here, they don't need it. Obama/Kerry, the worst negotiators in human history got duped again by being too lazy and uppity to do any homework. But you can't get duped if you don't give a flying care, can you? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 13:25:45 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 29 13:21:55 2015. Relax ... everything's going to be OK.
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 29 13:37:22 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 09:09:09 2015. Is it that you don't believe they handed them over, or that you are bothered by Russia having more nukes? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 13:38:39 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 29 13:37:22 2015. Meanwhile ... North Korea. :) |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 13:41:58 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 29 13:37:22 2015. Russia has plenty of nukes. And it's immaterial whether they actually physically transferred them. When the time comes, Russia can hand them right back. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 29 14:02:04 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 29 13:21:55 2015. Well said. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 29 14:11:35 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 13:41:58 2015. When the time comes, Russia can hand them right back.If that is your concern, you might as well just throw in the towel. Russia can always supply any country in the world with nukes if it wants. We can't stop them. What if they supply North Korea with nukes and decent quality long range missiles? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 29 14:15:25 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 13:41:58 2015. And? If they had given it to the United States, then Russia could simply supply new uranium to Iran whenever they want. They have plenty. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 29 14:22:44 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 29 07:17:58 2015. own3d |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 14:33:55 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 29 14:11:35 2015. So you agree with me. Handing the nukes over to Russia is meaningless. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 14:35:54 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 29 14:15:25 2015. So you agree with me, too. Handing the nukes over to Russia is meaningless as a demonstration of Iran's compliance.Russia takes its alliances seriously. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 29 14:41:27 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 29 14:02:04 2015. Maybe, however that' s entirely with attribution. Probably fiction. Prove otherwise, and with credible sources this time, k? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 29 14:41:38 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 14:35:54 2015. I agree partly. I do not agree with the implied assertion that handing uranium over the United States or verifiably destroying the stockpile would be more meaningful. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 14:46:25 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 29 14:41:38 2015. I didn't make any other assertion. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 29 15:00:37 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 14:33:55 2015. No I don't, if it's true.I feel Russia is capable of lots of reckless actions, but handing over nukes to Iran at some future date is pretty low on the list of things that concern me. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 15:09:18 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 29 15:00:37 2015. I'm not concerned. Iran is Russia's effective client in the MidEast. If Russia finds giving Iran back its nuclear materials is in its interest, they won't consider it reckless.Plus Iran is not destroying its capability of making more. This is all showtime, folks. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 29 15:10:55 2015, in response to Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 03:31:47 2015. Tell me again, righties, how the Iran deal will make it MORE likely that Iran will build a nuke? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 29 15:13:28 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 29 14:02:04 2015. If so, it would be the first time here that OBS has ever said anything well. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 29 15:32:10 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 29 14:41:27 2015. Not my OP so ask OBS to provide attribution. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 29 16:36:26 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 29 13:10:57 2015. Muslim? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 29 17:31:58 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SLRT on Tue Dec 29 15:09:18 2015. Why then are they dismantling, under the supervision of IAEA, their centrifuges? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 29 17:34:22 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 29 15:32:10 2015. My apologies fr the msplaced post...it was intended for OBS. Question here for you is why do you believe him? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 29 19:20:46 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 29 17:31:58 2015. Don't confuse him with facts. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 29 22:04:07 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 29 17:34:22 2015. Belated Christmas gift. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Dec 29 22:54:33 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 29 15:13:28 2015. +∞ |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 29 22:59:44 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 29 19:20:46 2015. Facts? From bingbong? Now look who's confused. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 29 23:03:02 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 29 17:31:58 2015. Yup, under the supervision of the IAEA they will be decommissioning their centrifuges. That's all but 6,000 of them. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 29 23:06:45 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 29 13:21:55 2015. You are assuming that Obama got duped. I suspect that it's more likely that the American public got duped assuming where Obama's loyalties lie. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 30 03:15:01 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 29 23:06:45 2015. Heh. Yep ... Obama's gonna send a death squad to your house. Might want to stock up on furniture to block that front door. :) |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 30 17:24:29 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 29 23:03:02 2015. Bump, bingbong |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 30 23:41:03 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 29 23:06:45 2015. And, pray tell, just where do they lie? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 30 23:54:45 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 30 23:41:03 2015. Over ... there. :) |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Dec 31 09:04:18 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 29 13:21:55 2015. Why would Iran having a deposit of uranium have any bearing on their existing stockpile of weapons grade uranium? The Iranians have surrendered their highly enriched uranium (which at 20% U235 was hardly weapons grade) and are taking natural uranium from the Russians which has virtually no U235. They gain nothing digging up natural uranium in their own country as opposed to using Russian yellowcake. U235 decays at a given rate, so there's no such thing as a natural uranium deposit which has a high concentration of U235.In fact they may actually find that indigenous mining is worse, as they'll know the US and the rest of the world will be able to observe their domestic mining and directly infer the progress of the nuclear weapons program by what they now have to tell the IAEA about their plants. The real danger is of course that the Iranians will produce plutonium, yet somehow in the right winger's infinite ignorance almost all the focus has been placed on uranium enrichment. Luckily the Obama administration pushed for changes to the Arak reactor to bring it into compliance and make plutonium production almost impossible. |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Dec 31 09:06:08 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 29 14:02:04 2015. So you think you can mine a deposit of highly enriched uranium? Is that what you're trying to tell us? |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Dec 31 09:18:21 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Dec 29 23:03:02 2015. They have a civilian nuclear power sector that will require low enriched uranium to feed into reactors. They're getting natural uranium from the Russians and have to enrich it to around 3.5% U235 for use in those power reactors. For that they need roughly 6000 centrifuge. |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Dec 31 09:28:21 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 29 13:10:57 2015. ... at the behest of President Obama. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 31 09:31:16 2015, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by WillD on Thu Dec 31 09:04:18 2015. You're confusing them with more fats......as if they know what to do withthe ones they "have". |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 2 03:45:17 2016, in response to Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 29 03:31:47 2015. Great, just in time for the 2016 elections.Now that we know Iran doesn't have nukes, we can look forward to President (Jeb) Bush insisting that we need to invade Iran to preemptively defend ourselves from the nukes they totally have. We can expect the media to parrot his lies without fact-checking a thing, that real journalists will be purged for questioning the official story, and the invasion to end with a big "mission accomplished" banner and a commitment to eternal occupation. Then around 2022, the media toadies who told lies to support the war will "suddenly discover" that they were wrong about it and write articles explaining how the invasion was a Mistake In Retrospect that No One Could Have Known At The Time and begin patting themselves on the back for being such Serious Journalists compared to those left-wing nuts who did know at the time and were right all along. In 2024, the popular opposition to the Iran war will reach the point that a Democrat is quickly swept into the White House promising to end the occupation. On the campaign trail, he'll promise complete withdrawal of troops by 2025, but once in office he postpones it to 2026, and then claims that some troops will remain permanently even afterwards. However, by 2027 he'll be demanding we send more troops to Iran because the government we put in power after the previous war is Just So Dangerous that America simply Cannot Let Them Live. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 2 11:10:41 2016, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 2 03:45:17 2016. Nah ... *JEB!* looks like he's headed for the door that Paturkey is holding open for him. President Cruz will invade Canada and we'll all be speaking French by 2020. :) |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Jan 2 12:36:40 2016, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 2 11:10:41 2016. Eh, hoser..... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 2 14:38:57 2016, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by Dave on Sat Jan 2 12:36:40 2016. Ce n'est pas Français! |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jan 3 01:55:32 2016, in response to Re: Iran hands over nuclear stockpile to Russia, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 2 11:10:41 2016. Well it's moot now. I've just reinstated Iran's nuclear stockpile. Now they can build actual nukes to serve as America deterrent and keep themselves safe from invasion like Russia, North Korea, and all those other countries we whine about but would never invade. |
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