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Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by Dave on Mon Nov 30 22:03:57 2015

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The emails in question were deemed classified before their release by the State Department


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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 30 22:19:20 2015, in response to Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by Dave on Mon Nov 30 22:03:57 2015.

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LOALM!

You don't understand the dynamics of today's Democratic party. I do and know this means nothing to them.

If anything it energizes women and minorities to vote.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by Dave on Mon Nov 30 22:27:11 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 30 22:19:20 2015.

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I hope you're wrong.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 30 22:37:58 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by Dave on Mon Nov 30 22:27:11 2015.

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That's what Terrapin Station would say.

I'm trying to force him off subchat

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 23:18:30 2015, in response to Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by Dave on Mon Nov 30 22:03:57 2015.

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I'll wait for a legitimate source on this.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 30 23:18:55 2015, in response to Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by Dave on Mon Nov 30 22:03:57 2015.

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I think you misunderstand this: "The emails in question were deemed classified before their release by the department – and the former secretary of state has said all along she never sent emails with material marked classified at the time."

What this says is that they were deemed classified JUST RECENTLY - just before their current release by State. The info in them was not marked classified when Hillary wrote them.

Plus, it's old news. The article pints out that previously, over 600 emails fit this category. They just issued 300 more.


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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 23:44:19 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 30 23:18:55 2015.

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Now now ... Unca Dave has a smoking gun. Who cares if it's a starter pistol? :)

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 23:52:20 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 30 22:19:20 2015.

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No . . . fake identities and the deceased more than them.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by TonyG on Mon Nov 30 23:56:24 2015, in response to Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by Dave on Mon Nov 30 22:03:57 2015.

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The truth is that nobody cares.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 1 00:32:26 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 23:44:19 2015.

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Haha.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 01:04:37 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by Dave on Mon Nov 30 22:27:11 2015.

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So you're pro-voter supression? Figures.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 1 01:05:50 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 30 23:52:20 2015.

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Elements are anti white male anti Christian. That how they vote.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 1 04:14:20 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 01:04:37 2015.

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IAWTP
yes he is !!
pro-voter supression

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Dec 1 04:26:13 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by TonyG on Mon Nov 30 23:56:24 2015.

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I care.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 06:16:45 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by TonyG on Mon Nov 30 23:56:24 2015.

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No. The truth is no liberal cares. In liberalland, the end justifies the means.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 1 07:40:31 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 23:18:30 2015.

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LOL!

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 07:50:32 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 23:18:30 2015.

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By "legitimate source" I guess you mean any source that doesn't state the truth.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:26:15 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 23:18:30 2015.

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're an idiot. And you link to stupid blogs instead of real sources! LOL!!!

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Dec 1 08:43:56 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Dec 1 04:26:13 2015.

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I care.

Of course you do.

Here

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Dec 1 08:46:43 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:26:15 2015.

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Are you leaving SubChat anytime soon? One LuchAAA is hoping to make that happen and is on a mission towards that end. Answer the question.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 08:52:37 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 23:18:30 2015.

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???

The fact that a large number of Clinton emails contained information that was not marked classified at the time but has now been deemed classified is not anything new.



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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by TonyG on Tue Dec 1 08:53:04 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 06:16:45 2015.

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In conservative land, apparently the end justifies the means as well.

You all just like everyone to give up all of their personal freedoms to fight "terrorism".

Well, except for guns.



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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 08:57:16 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 08:52:37 2015.

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Do I hear the 4 Tops music playing?

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:57:26 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Dec 1 08:46:43 2015.

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Yes. I left an hour ago to go to Pinkberry but then I came right back. I love screwing with LuchAAA.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:57:51 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by TonyG on Mon Nov 30 23:56:24 2015.

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Wrong. People care.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 08:58:29 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by TonyG on Tue Dec 1 08:53:04 2015.

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What personal freedoms would those be?

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:58:49 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 08:52:37 2015.

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Yes, AlM, she's not too bright.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by TonyG on Tue Dec 1 09:04:51 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 08:58:29 2015.

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1st AMENDMENT FREEDOM OF SPEECH
• The Patriot Act broadly expands the official definition of
terrorism, so that many domestic groups that engage in
nonviolent civil disobedience could very well find themselves
labeled as terrorists.
• The Government may now prosecute librarians or keepers
of any other records if they reveal that the government
requested information on their clients or members in the
course of an investigation. It has become a crime for these
individuals to try to safeguard your privacy or to tell you
that you are under investigation.

1st AMENDMENT FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION
• Government agents may now monitor the First Amendment-
protected activities of religious and political institutions, and
then infiltrate these groups with no suspicion of criminal
activity. This is a return to domestic spying on law-abiding
religious and political groups.
• You may now be the subject of a government investigation
simply because of the political, activist, or advocacy
groups you are involved in, or the statements you make
within these groups.

1st AMENDMENT RIGHT TO ACCESS
GOVERNMENT INFORMATION
• A U.S. Department of Justice directive actively encourages
federal, state, and local officials to resist and/or limit access
to government records through Freedom of Information Act
(FOIA) requests.
• The Government has conducted immigration hearings in
secret behind closed doors. Such proceedings were once
open to the public. Hundreds, if not thousands, of immigrants
have already been deported in secret.

4th AMENDMENT FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE
SEARCHES &SEIZURES
• Law Enforcement authorities may now conduct secret searches and wiretaps in your home or office
without showing “probable cause.” They need only to claim that intelligence gathering is “a significant
purpose” of their intrusion, even when the primary goal is ordinary law enforcement. They may also
monitor where and to whom you send and receive e-mail, or where you go on the Internet, recording
every e-mail address and website you have been in contact with.
• Law Enforcement may now demand any personal records held by any source including your doctor,
employer, accountant, or library. All they have to do is claim that it is related to an investigation into
“terrorism.” The record keepers may not reveal that your records were provided to the government.
• Judicial oversight of secret searches has been effectively minimized. The Patriot Act directs judges to
consent to secret searches based only on the Government’s assertion that a “significant” purpose of
an investigation is gathering information related to “terrorism,” as the government defines it.

5th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS & FREEDOM FROM BEING
HELD WITHOUT CHARGE
• Americans can now be jailed without a formal charge & without the right to confront the witnesses or
evidence against them. American citizens are now being held in military jails without charge and with-
out a clear path of appeal for their indefinite confinement.
• Hundreds of Arab, Muslim and South Asian men were rounded up in the Ashcroft raids following
September 11, and held for weeks without charges until all were cleared of terrorism charges

6th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION
• Hundreds of U.S. residents have been detained for months at a time, and denied access to the advice
and advocacy of an attorney. The Government may now monitor conversations between attorneys &
clients in federal jails.
• The Bush Administration filed papers in court that arguing that an American citizen held in a military
jail without charge should be denied access to legal counsel because such access would interfere with
the process of his interrogation.

6th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL
• The U.S. Government may now jail its residents and citizens indefinitely without charge & without a public trial.

8th AMENDMENT FREEDOM FROM CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENTS
• The U.S. Government has taken into custody individuals they identify as “material witnesses,” trans-
ported them across the country, and held them for months in solitary confinement without charge or
contact with their family.
• According to the Justice Department’s own Inspector General, immigrant men rounded up in the
Ashcroft raids following September 11 and held in the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, NY
were subjected to a pattern of “physical and verbal abuse.

14th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO EQUAL PROTECTION
• Over 82,000 men from Arab, Muslim and South Asian countries registered with the Government
under the Special Registration program. Over 13,000 are now in deportation proceedings. None
have been charged with terrorism.

Source: http://www.nyclu.org/pdfs/eroding_liberty.pdf

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by TonyG on Tue Dec 1 09:06:38 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:57:26 2015.

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I find it entertaining. Please don't stop.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by TonyG on Tue Dec 1 09:07:32 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:57:51 2015.

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OK.

People who wouldn't have voted for Hillary in the first place care.

Hillary supporters and many independents / moderates don't care as they think it's a "red herring" to discredit Hillary.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Dec 1 09:24:03 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:57:26 2015.

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Thank you for your timely and accurate response. I just know I am going to get into it with the checkmatechamp13 over on the other board. I just need time to harness gather square up call it what you will my resources so I can launch a debilitating strike on him re. the LaGuardia shuttle. It's nothing personal - I like said individual - it's just that I take issue with his reasoning and need to confront him in order to defeat him.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:25:10 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by TonyG on Tue Dec 1 09:07:32 2015.

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I care. I expect to vote for Hillary. I think it shows a failure of judgment on her part, and I am disappointed that she took the actions she did.

That said, I do think that it is being used unfairly to discredit her. I also think almost every candidate has shown similar or greater failures of judgment in their political lives.



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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 09:27:05 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Dec 1 09:24:03 2015.

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Word to your momma.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 09:27:19 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by TonyG on Tue Dec 1 09:06:38 2015.

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As you wish.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 09:28:24 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:25:10 2015.

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I care. I expect to vote for Hillary. I think it shows a failure of judgment on her part, and I am disappointed that she took the actions she did.
You are very wise. Really. I wish all Hillary supporters could admit that.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 09:30:24 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:25:10 2015.

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I'll bet you could make such a convincing argument for driving while intoxicated.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 09:30:24 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:25:10 2015.

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I'll bet you could make such a convincing argument for driving while intoxicated.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by TonyG on Tue Dec 1 09:32:48 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 09:28:24 2015.

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I'll bite.

I expect to vote for Hillary as well. I do agree it was a failure of judgement on her part, but I believe it's being blown WAY out of proportion by Hillary opponents as a way to discredit her.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by WayneJay on Tue Dec 1 09:54:59 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 30 23:18:55 2015.

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Awwww! You're spoiling their fun.:-)

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 10:02:26 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by WayneJay on Tue Dec 1 09:54:59 2015.

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Do you think national security is for fun?

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 1 10:21:21 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 09:28:24 2015.

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IAWTP.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 11:51:49 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 1 01:05:50 2015.

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The lack of glutens in your diet is clearly affecting your brain.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 1 12:41:30 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 07:50:32 2015.

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No, I mean the actual story, not the RW editorial version.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 12:53:00 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 07:50:32 2015.

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To paraphrase Dave, "you are an idiot!".

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 1 13:26:59 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 12:53:00 2015.

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That's Chimmy's line, not mine.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 1 13:43:49 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 1 13:26:59 2015.

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My apologies

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 1 13:55:14 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:25:10 2015.

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LOALM!

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 14:31:30 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by TonyG on Tue Dec 1 09:32:48 2015.

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It was a completely stupid thing to do. You or I would never do it, so why should she have? It calls a lot of things into question:

1. Her common sense
2. Her ability to pick intelligent, effective advisers
3. Her ability to quickly admit that she was wrong and get past it

The failures in the three areas above are quite significant. Whether or not they are significant enough that she shouldn't be President is something I'm not sure of. Whether or not they are significant enough to consider when weighing her against other candidates is something I am very sure of - YES. Whether or not some/many/all of the other candidates have done similarly stupid things, as someone else mentioned, is also a valid point. But to dismiss the whole thing outright as much ado about nothing is completely dishonest.


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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 1 15:39:19 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by TonyG on Tue Dec 1 09:04:51 2015.

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Good summary.

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 1 15:40:39 2015, in response to Re: Nearly 1,000 Clinton emails had classified info, posted by TonyG on Tue Dec 1 09:04:51 2015.

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Good summary. The right will only start screaming when they add 2nd Amendment (terrorists no longer allowed to buy guns) to the list.

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