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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 04:17:27 2015 Rut-ro ...Turkey shoots down military jet over Syrian border – local media report plane is Russian  Turkey has shot down a Russian military jet which it says violated its airspace near the Syrian border. The Russian Defence Ministry and Turkish Presidency, quoted in Russian and Turkish media reports, have both described the plane as Russian, and video posted by the Haberturk TV station appeared to show the jet coming down in flames. A military official, quoted by Turkey's Dogan news agency, said the plane was shot down by Turkish F16s, and that the pilot was given prior warning. Various reports described the plane as coming down in hostile Syrian territory, and the fate of the two pilots on board was unknown. CNN Turk published images purporting to show two pilots parachuting safely to the ground, and reported that two helicopters had been sent from Turkey to retrieve them. While a number of videos were posted to social media appearing to show the plane itself crashing. Videos and photos in link above. --- Since Turkey is a member of NATO, this could get ... interesting. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 24 06:41:20 2015, in response to Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 04:17:27 2015. NATO was warning about the possibility of this exact thing happening, early last month. Erdogan himself was on TV specifically addressing the issue two weeks ago. Why the Russians didn't take him seriously, is another thorny item that will come out in the coming days and weeks.The Russians are already steadfastly insisting that their plane was over Syrian airspace when it was shot down, but I imagine GPS or radar tracking will settle that bone of contention. Meanwhile, I expect we'll see a considerable increase in airspace monitoring on both sides, and more planes from both sides in the air. Not a good development. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 24 07:05:07 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 24 06:41:20 2015. They're testing each other.What's interesting to me is that Turkey is "fighting ISIS" but would rather hit the Kurds, and Russia is "fighting ISIS" but would rather hit Assad's enemies. In war you have coalitions but the members have their own agendas. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 24 07:11:24 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 24 07:05:07 2015. Everyone currently embroiled in the Syrian mess, is ostensibly "fighting ISIS". But, as you pointed out, everyone also has their own agenda. The trouble is, in "fighting ISIS", some of the belligerents are beginning to fight each other. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 07:23:29 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 24 07:05:07 2015. Looks like Russia is actually fighting ISIS and Turkey is helping ISIS. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 24 09:23:17 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 07:23:29 2015. I think Russia is fighting ISIS more since their passenger plane came down.As for Turkey, bring back the Ataturk. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 09:28:22 2015, in response to Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 04:17:27 2015. Do not fly. Makes no sense. I have been preaching this for like forever but do you people listen? No. Do you even consider alternate modes of safe and efficient transportation? Nope. Do you even care? Evidently not. I'm wasting my time pissing into the wind spinning my wheels call it what you will. The whole thing is incomprehensible to me. I leave Newark for Dallas, Houston, and Tampa tomorrow by bus and boat. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Nov 24 09:37:56 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 07:23:29 2015. True. Follow the money/oil. Turkey is ISIL's best customer and major funder. Turkey should be expelled from NATO. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 24 09:43:30 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 09:28:22 2015. Both buses and boats are more dangerous than flying, IINM. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Nov 24 09:52:57 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Nov 24 09:37:56 2015. IAWTP. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Nov 24 09:53:38 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 09:28:22 2015. Quiet now, the adults are talking. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 10:00:36 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by Dave on Tue Nov 24 09:53:38 2015. I'm sorry. I apologize. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 17:09:04 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 09:28:22 2015. Lately, by boat is truly the best way to see Dallas and Houston. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 17:33:26 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 09:28:22 2015. Back when I ran the pirate FM station in New Paltz, the US Air Force purchased a half hour of airtime every Saturday night, sent along a 2 inch vinyl record of big band music to entice the local college students to sign up. Back in the days when Curtis LeMay was still in charge ... and every show ended with this ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 17:34:19 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 17:33:26 2015. Go, CHAIR Force! :) |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 18:31:03 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 17:33:26 2015. I was quote unquote counting cadence. I welled up with tears watching that clip, tears of pride. Here is the official 2016 list of the Uniformed Services of the United States ranked in order of necessity, firepower, and prestige.1. United States Air Force 2. United States Marine Corps 3. United States Navy 4. United States Coast Guard 5. United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps 6. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Officer Corps 7. United States Army |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 18:36:41 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 18:31:03 2015. And now, in an age of Amazon drones and ICBM's, it's good that you hit the silk when you did whilst the Chair Force still had some prestige. The Air Force has gotten with the times and about the best you can expect after your DD 214 is to place the official insignia in the lavatory. Semper foo, fly high. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 24 18:39:03 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 18:36:41 2015. Fly high or recline. :-) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 24 18:40:14 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 17:33:26 2015. Wow...so many cool vintage planes...I wonder if the people that sequence ever imagined that their (then) brand-new B-52 bomber would still be in service well into the 21st century. The original pilots of that aircraft have long since gone on to the hereafter, and now their grandchildren and great-grandchildren are flying their planes. Incredible! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 18:46:45 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 24 18:40:14 2015. That was done in 1957, so pretty much everything there was LeMay's newest and shiniest. I suspect Olog's pants will be too tight to post tonight. :) |
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Posted by TonyG on Tue Nov 24 18:50:02 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 18:31:03 2015. Obviously you're ex Air Force and you hate the Army. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 18:54:18 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by TonyG on Tue Nov 24 18:50:02 2015. Of course you don't like the Air Force. |
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Posted by TonyG on Tue Nov 24 19:00:44 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 18:54:18 2015. I like the Air Force just fine. In fact I know of several people who have served or are currently serving in it.I was just making the observation that you're ex Air Force. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 19:09:56 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by TonyG on Tue Nov 24 19:00:44 2015. I'm sorry. I apologize. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 25 10:53:20 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Nov 24 18:31:03 2015. United States Army
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Posted by Dave on Wed Nov 25 11:52:31 2015, in response to Re: Turkey (NATO) shoots down Russian Jet, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 25 10:53:20 2015. A helluva man. |
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