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More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 11:14:31 2015 fiogf49gjkf0d Tom Cotton Pledges To Stand With Netanyahu To Subvert American Foreign Policy By: Rmusemore - PoliticusUSA It is probably a certainty that most Americans, if given the choice, would pledge their support and allegiance to the United States of America instead of a foreign nation. In fact, in most circles, particularly most conservative circles, it would certainly be considered an act of treason to support a foreign country over America, and nearly as treasonous to support and give aid to a foreigner attempting to subvert the United States government in international matters. For dog’s sake, 12 years ago Republicans were ballistic when an American citizen dared question the foreign policy of a sitting U.S. president, so it is expected they would be apoplectic if an American citizen actively join forces with foreigners to undermine the nation they claim to love. It is very telling about Republican and conservative hypocrisy that when a country-and-western entertainer opined that she was embarrassed that a warmonger president of the United States, George W. Bush, was from the same state as her, Americans on the right went insane with anger. Republicans, all manner of conservatives, and “patriotic” country music devotees went ballistic and launched a campaign to destroy the careers of the Dixie Chicks for having the audacity to express a personal opinion about a sitting president while on foreign soil. Some conservatives were so outraged they made threats to the entertainers. When there was a war against Muslims for Americans to fight at Netanyahu’s urging, Republicans not only would not tolerate a dissenting voice, they sought vengeance against the entertainers who had the temerity to express their opinion on foreign soil protesting Bush’s war of aggression against Muslims. If questioning a decision to go to war on Israel’s behalf was an outrage less than twelve years ago, then where is the conservative outrage against a sitting United States senator for pledging his undying support to a foreign leader to subvert the foreign policy of a sitting President of the United States? It is non-existent. After Republican Senator Tom Cotton met with “his” most favorite nation’s leader, Benjamin Netanyahu, he said “Today’s meeting only reaffirms my opposition to this deal. I will stand with Prime Minister Netanyahu and Israel and work with my colleagues in Congress to stop this deal and to ensure that Israel has the means to defend itself against Iran.” It is bad enough that Cotton pledged to “stand with Netanyahu and Israel” to subvert American foreign policy, but why did he not demonstrate exactly how the United Nations P5+1 nuclear deal with Iran strips Israel of its means to defend itself; especially when American taxpayers are funding over 15% of Israel’s military. But Cotton is working from blind devotion, and a solemn pledge, to a foreign nation and its warmongering leader to subvert his own nation’s foreign policy so expecting any kind of evidence to support his sedition is a waste of energy. Cotton certainly has shown no fealty whatsoever to the nation of which he claims to be a citizen or the Constitution he swore an oath to defend and support; because by his own admission his first and only allegiance is to Israel in general and its prime minister in particular. There has been no outrage that Cotton, or Republicans, have joined a foreigner to subvert American foreign policy because Barack Obama is an African American man dedicated to preventing Americans from fighting and dying in another Middle East war against Muslims on behalf of a foreigner. Republicans can, and have, spent the past six years openly claiming that Barack Obama is not, in any way, shape, or form an American even though he is upholding his pledge of allegiance to the United States; not some foreign nation or its leader. It is something Tom Cotton cannot say because his pledge is serving a foreigner and he is unapologetic about standing with Netanyahu in opposition to America; the country that is subservient to Israel and its leader according to Cotton. When Speaker of the House John Boehner went behind the Administration’s back and invited the foreigner to act like he sets American foreign policy in the Middle East, many thought Boehner violated the Logan Act. However, the final conclusion was that inviting a foreigner to address a joint session of Congress to subvert American foreign policy was simply a “breach of protocol.” Likewise, when Netanyahu devotee Tom Cotton wrote a letter to Iranian hardliners promising Republicans would scuttle the P5+1 deal so Israel could start a war with Iran that Americans would fight and die in, it was not sedition or a violation of the Logan Act; it was just another breach of protocol. Now though, a sitting U.S. Senator travels to a foreign nation and pledges to stand with it and its leader in opposition to the country he claims to be a citizen and Republicans are silent. It is more than just a breach of protocol, it is at the very least “seditious in spirit” and in many Americans’ minds it is treasonous. Cotton is guilty of attempting to subvert the twice legally-elected leader of the United States who has sole purview over setting foreign policy. No matter how one assesses what Cotton is doing, it is an attempt to subvert United States’ foreign policy for a foreigners’ bloodlust. This Iran deal is an international effort, and not an American treaty with a foreign nation that requires any input, or approval, from the U.S. Congress in the form of “ratification” as required by the Constitution. It was a mistake to give Netanyahu’s surrogates in Congress authority to scuttle a deal the involves five other nation’s leaders, but America has proven itself exceptional the past six years in breaking Constitutional protocol. But that is just one of the prices America has to pay for having a government composed of politicians who serve the best interests of foreigners instead of the nation or its Constitution. Neither Cotton, the Republican Party, nor the 47 seditious Republicans who pledged to Iranian hardliners that they would thwart the international deal for a war on Israel’s behalf have any intention of supporting the Constitution despite their oath of office; especially not when their anointed foreign leader is directing their subversion of the nation’s foreign policy. Cotton is blatantly joining forces with a foreigner to subvert America’s foreign policy, and announces his pledge of support on foreign soil without a word of condemnation from conservatives. Tom Cotton is the worst kind of American traitor for standing with a foreigner, on foreign soil, and pledging his support to subvert the United States. Obviously if he could be thrown out of Congress, Republicans would never act because they are as devoted to a foreign nation’s subversion of American foreign policy as Benjamin Netanyahu and his newest disciple Tom Cotton. However, Cotton’s love of country, this country, not Israel, is certainly up for debate as is any semblance of patriotism anyone sane might expect from an American citizen and sitting U.S. Senator. The people who should be most outraged are his constituents who have to ask exactly which of their best interests he serves by pledging his allegiance to a foreign nation and its warmonger leader, because there is nothing in any Americans’ best interests in another Middle East war fought to sate the bloodlust, and defense industry greed, of the man a sitting U.S. Senator just pledged his allegiance and support to subvert America.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by cortelyounext* on Tue Sep 1 11:25:58 2015, in response to More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 11:14:31 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Of course you don't like Tom Cotton.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 11:31:08 2015, in response to More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 11:14:31 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d From a real middle-of-the-road website.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SMAZ* on Tue Sep 1 11:34:10 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 11:31:08 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Do you agree with Cotton's actions?
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by cortelyounext* on Tue Sep 1 11:44:43 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 11:31:08 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Be very careful here. The SMAZ is known to pose seemingly innocuous questions as a means of luring people into his trap which he will spring when least expected.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by mtk52983* on Tue Sep 1 11:50:30 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Sep 1 11:25:58 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Tom Cotton has more integrity in his little finger than SMAZZA has in his entire body.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 12:09:42 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Sep 1 11:44:43 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Oh, he wouldn't spring a trap on a fellow veteran. Would he?
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by bingbong* on Tue Sep 1 12:22:14 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Sep 1 11:50:30 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Lulz. Anyone of that stature promoting such behavior towards our governments policy should be tried for sedition.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 12:32:01 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 11:34:10 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d I am not going to judge someone's actions based on an article in a Liberal Rag. At least Israel is our ally. Perhaps we can talk about putting the interests of our enemies such as Cuba and Iran before our country's is within the purview of a President's power. Or do you feel a President cannot commit treason because he can simply re-designate an enemy as a friend?
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by Dave* on Tue Sep 1 12:46:07 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 1 12:22:14 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yep, everyone in Congress should march like good little soldiers in whatever direction the President tells them to march. Congress should have no say in determining foreign policy. I see the Constitution means nothing to you.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by bingbong* on Tue Sep 1 13:10:39 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 12:32:01 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d But you RWers love to condemn anyone based on Faux, Blaze, lardmouth, etc. Some here acts as if they live for it.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by Dutchrailnut* on Tue Sep 1 13:19:21 2015, in response to More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 11:14:31 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d guess he pledges allegiance to other than the US ??, a traitor amongst our elected officials, a government for people (of what country).
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 13:22:54 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 1 13:10:39 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d I'm not a right-winger, except compared to some people here. But stipulate that I am and tell me where I've condemned someone based on your pet peeve media.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 13:24:14 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 1 13:10:39 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Do you think Israel is not our ally? Do you think Iran is not our enemy? Do you think the President is incapable of treason?
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by AlM* on Tue Sep 1 13:40:22 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 13:22:54 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d I'm not a right-winger, except compared to some people here. Hmm. A comfortable majority of American voters voted for President Obama in 2012. You have almost never endorsed anything he is in favor of. Doesn't that make you a right winger? If you were a moderate, wouldn't you agree with some of his positions and disagree with others?
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SMAZ* on Tue Sep 1 13:45:24 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Sep 1 11:50:30 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Tom Cotton has more integrity in his little finger than SMAZZA has in his entire body. That may be true but at least I pledge my allegiance to my own country.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by R2ChinaTown* on Tue Sep 1 13:45:25 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 1 12:22:14 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Lulz? "How trolls keep score" . What bridge ate you lurking under?
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SMAZ* on Tue Sep 1 13:47:13 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 12:09:42 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Cotton is also a fellow veteran. That's why his sordid actions are particularly contemptible.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SMAZ* on Tue Sep 1 13:47:54 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by AlM on Tue Sep 1 13:40:22 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Great post.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by bingbong* on Tue Sep 1 13:53:16 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 1 12:46:07 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d No, Congress, aside from the Senate ratification of treaties, which we can all be certain mr. Cotton would never endorse any from this Presidency, has no part in foreign policy. Per the Constitution. Read it sometime.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by 3-9* on Tue Sep 1 13:53:36 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 1 12:46:07 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d If a Democrat pledged allegiance to a foreign leader, the Republicans and conservatives would have him/her thrown out of office.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 13:55:55 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by AlM on Tue Sep 1 13:40:22 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Hmmm.... a President who lost his comfortable majority approval with the American people five weeks after inauguration (March 15, 2013) and hasn't been above 50% since. FWIW, I do agree with some of his positions, such as gay marriage, and the importance of meaningful higher education. Of course, on gay marriage I was opposed to the hypocrite's early position and am now in favor of his "evolved" position. So you believe that disagreeing with a strongly leftist president who has the approval of an uncomfortable minority of less than 45% of the country makes someone a right winger?
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 13:57:08 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 13:47:54 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Compared to you and bingbong I'm Savonarola.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Sep 1 14:00:27 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 13:55:55 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d What "strongly leftist president?" We were talking about the US, not some other country.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by TerrApin Station* on Tue Sep 1 14:00:32 2015, in response to More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 11:14:31 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d I don't have the time/patience to read this whole thing right now so can someone tell me if the author ever presents any logical reasoning for the accusations presented in ten beginning? Any quotes from Cotton that support it?
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by bingbong* on Tue Sep 1 14:01:30 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 13:55:55 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Ahem.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by bingbong* on Tue Sep 1 14:02:41 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 1 14:00:27 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Seriously. I would love to see a strong leftist President get elected in this country. Hasn't happened since FDR.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SMAZ* on Tue Sep 1 14:02:47 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by 3-9 on Tue Sep 1 13:53:36 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d as they should.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SMAZ* on Tue Sep 1 14:04:38 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 13:55:55 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d If Obama could run in 2016, he'd get close to 60% of the popular vote. Maybe more depending on the opponent.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SMAZ* on Tue Sep 1 14:06:10 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 13:57:08 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d That guy was insane and it didn't end well for him.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by cortelyounext* on Tue Sep 1 14:07:14 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Sep 1 11:50:30 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d SMAZ in the Pocket. Here is our very own SMAZ pictured with his father who served with the 4th Infantry Division in the Central Highlands/II Corps Zone. This picture was shot during his assignment with 3rd Brigade Armored which fought in Tay Ninh Province. Said individual was taking part in Operation Junction City as part of Task Force Oregon in War Zone C.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by AlM* on Tue Sep 1 14:12:35 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 13:55:55 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d So you believe that disagreeing with a strongly leftist president who has the approval of an uncomfortable minority of less than 45% of the country makes someone a right winger? He's not strongly leftist. His approval hasn't dropped because he suddenly advocated government ownership of the means of production, or some such thing. It has dropped because he looks ineffectual. The majority of 2012 voters considered his positions more acceptable on the whole than Romney's. The fact that you consider him strongly leftist, given the 2012 vote, says more about you than about him. The most "leftist" thing about him is that he pushed through RomneyCare, and voters went along with that. May I point out that personal income tax rates for the rich are way lower than they were under Clinton, even though he had a filubuster-proof Senate at one point.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 14:19:13 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 1 13:53:16 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d The Constitution also excepts what is a function treaty to be ratified by two-thirds of the Senate, not approved by one-third who uphold a President's veto. And where exactly in the Constitution do you see the President's exclusive power in foreign policy. He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments. I expect you to discover the above the next time we have a Republican President.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 14:22:44 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 14:06:10 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Ah well, he must have irritated you on Subchat.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 14:24:20 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 1 14:00:27 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Thinking Obama is a centrist is a good indication of a left winger.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 14:25:32 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 1 14:01:30 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d You don't usually do necroposts, bingbong.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 14:26:19 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 14:04:38 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d How many pennies did you throw into the well for that result, SMAZ?
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 14:27:42 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by AlM on Tue Sep 1 14:12:35 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d You keep returning to the 2012 vote. That's even more of a necropost than bingbong's omage to a January 2015 poll.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Sep 1 14:30:02 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 14:24:20 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d You say that as if it were an insult. Calling Obama anything other than a centrist is a good indication of a right winger. Unless you call him a right-winger.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 14:35:39 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by 3-9 on Tue Sep 1 13:53:36 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Give me a quote from, say, The Washington Post, that justifies the heading of this thread.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by Dave* on Tue Sep 1 14:42:31 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 1 13:53:16 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Ignorant as always. The Senate does more than ratify treaties; it can refuse to approve treaties, amend them, or attach reservations. Congress has the power to declare war, which it has done four times, the most recent being World War II. The Senate’s Finance Committee decided that Congress should get an up- or down-vote on the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a free-trade deal between America and dozen Pacific nations.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 14:44:13 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 1 14:00:32 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Just so we know what we're talking about, sedition is incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government or any action, especially in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion. Obama is not The Government, except in the eyes of his supporters.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by Dave* on Tue Sep 1 14:45:37 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 1 14:01:30 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d ROTFL! Why not pick an article from the week he was inaugurated? You are too funny. His current approval rating is around 46%.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by SLRT* on Tue Sep 1 14:45:54 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 1 14:42:31 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Trust me, bingbong will re-read the Constitution the next time there is a Republican president.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com* on Tue Sep 1 14:49:30 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 1 14:01:30 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d haaaaaaaaaaaa
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by Dave* on Tue Sep 1 14:49:46 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 14:45:54 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d True 'dat!
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by Dave* on Tue Sep 1 14:50:31 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Sep 1 14:49:30 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Hey Stumpy, that's from January. His approval rating is back in the 40's now. haaaaaaaaaaaa
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com* on Tue Sep 1 14:56:33 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 1 14:50:31 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d hey davey from texass obama is dong great not on your right wing hate talk radio in texasss however and i am not a obama fan
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Re: More Sedition from SMAZ
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Sep 1 15:20:38 2015, in response to More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 11:14:31 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d Politicus USA are a pack of antisemites. This screed proves that they are all in with Stormfront, as are you.
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Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton?
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Sep 1 15:21:02 2015, in response to Re: More Sedition from Tom Cotton, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 11:31:08 2015.* fiogf49gjkf0d No, they're far-left radicals.
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