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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 16:55:16 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Aug 28 16:28:44 2015. Are there? |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Aug 28 17:50:13 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 15:22:51 2015. Republicans lost those elections bc they alienate everyone except middle age white dudes and that demographic alone is not the majority of this country. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Aug 28 17:53:42 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Aug 28 16:27:15 2015. The fact Donald Trump us leading repub polls shows how stupid Amrricans are. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 17:53:48 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Aug 28 17:50:13 2015. republicans lost because the mars rover couldn't get enough cigars at the county store. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 17:54:45 2015, in response to One of these presidents..., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Aug 27 20:50:54 2015. so you mean that Obama is that far worse?Where can I sign your impeachment petition? |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 17:55:20 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Aug 28 17:53:42 2015. How is liking a guy who does what Obama says he's going to do make people stupid? |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Aug 28 18:02:46 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 17:55:20 2015. So Obama says he's going to deport 11million ppl and build a wall around America? Where can I find that quote...lol |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 18:07:25 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Aug 28 18:02:46 2015. Google search gives me about a half a million results in one second. lolzWhy Has President Obama Deported More Immigrants Than ... www.thenation.com/.../why-has-president-obama-deported-m... The Nation Mar 31, 2014 - Since taking the oath of office, Obama has deported immigrants at a faster rate than any other president in US history, |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 28 18:08:26 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 18:07:25 2015. Which makes Trump even funnier. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Aug 28 18:21:23 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 18:07:25 2015. He should have started with himself. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 18:37:05 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 28 18:08:26 2015. Try ridiculous Selkirk, and as a Republican he is trying to turn us into an all white party, something a lot of those cheering him on so enthusiastically seem unable to grasp. I take it very serious that I belong to the party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and D. D. Eisenhower and I wish those yahoos also realize that Ronald Reagan was NOT an ideologue and would probably not be popular with many of those types in the party today.Other than that, always good to share thoughts with you. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Aug 28 19:51:42 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 18:07:25 2015. So why is the right constantly bitching about Obama being weak on immigration? I bet if he had an R in front of his name they and fox news would be kissing his a$$. Reagan did the same thing the right wing hero granting citizenship to illegal immigrants and it was cool but now that Obama brings it up its a travesty. Hypocrites |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Aug 28 20:32:21 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 18:37:05 2015. Republicans need more like you. IMO since the tea party rose up the republicans became extreme. It's a contest whoever is the most extreme conservatives win. Moderates need to take back control of the right imho. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 28 20:32:33 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 18:37:05 2015. Try ridiculous Selkirk, and as a Republican he is trying to turn us into an all white partyWhen did you turn Democrat? I wish those yahoos also realize that Ronald Reagan was NOT an ideologue and would probably not be popular with many of those types in the party today Reagan is hated by the liberal RINOs. Not the conservatives. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 20:34:23 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 18:37:05 2015. Do you dislike the Tea Party? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 28 20:47:19 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 20:34:23 2015. Anyone who does is not someone who understands them.But since the lefties like to post political graphics (such as in the OP), let's see them try to dispute this one.  |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 28 21:19:27 2015, in response to One of these presidents..., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Aug 27 20:50:54 2015. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 28 21:24:54 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Aug 28 16:28:44 2015. That's begging the question. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 28 23:06:56 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 18:37:05 2015. Indeed, buddy! Glad to see a republican who still remembers what it was all about instead of the sideshow being passed off as the GOP these days.But Trump isn't alone sadly, look at how the other jamokes are trying to pretend to be a photocopy. :( And as to Reagan, if he were around to see what the kids are up to lately, I fear he'd go totally Goldwater on their asses. (grin) |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:14:59 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 28 20:32:33 2015. I consider myself a Lincoln Republican, but that doesn't mean I am a Rino. I believe in personal responsibility, more local control, shrinking the federal government, defunding Planned Parenthood, I want a muscular foreign policy that will stand up to terrorists, and I don't want illegals to get citizenship. However, I think their children brought here with their parents should be eligible, I believe strongly in public education and I don't hate unions since I was a union man myself. Please don't try and put me in a box. I was once a Democrat and I despise that party as one of phonies, elitists and people who want to tax citizens to death while they enjoy their perks, send their kids to private schools and live in gated communities. I hope you now have a full picture of me. I am a Republican and proud of it. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:17:03 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 28 20:32:33 2015. I consider myself a Lincoln Republican, but that doesn't mean I am a Rino. I believe in personal responsibility, more local control, shrinking the federal government, defunding Planned Parenthood, I want a muscular foreign policy that will stand up to terrorists, and I don't want illegals to get citizenship. However, I think their children brought here with their parents should be eligible, I believe strongly in public education and I don't hate unions since I was a union man myself. Please don't try and put me in a box. I was once a Democrat and I despise that party as one of phonies, elitists and people who want to tax citizens to death while they enjoy their perks, send their kids to private schools and live in gated communities. I hope you now have a full picture of me. I am a Republican and proud of it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 28 23:20:54 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:14:59 2015. Congrats, Unca Fred. I think you just made his "enemies list" ... heh. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:21:25 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 20:34:23 2015. CM---I don't hate the Tea Party. I think their crusade in 2010 helped our party win the House, but they can get a little extreme and I don't like the way they attack the illegals because it is interpreted by Hispanics as an attack on them at a group. I think they should temper down their language somewhat. I want my party to win and lately the Tea Party has become a little too extreme for my.BTW, I am supporting Ohio Governor John Kasich for President because I believe he is a terrific statesman with experience, hailing from a lower middle class family and a highly successful Governor of a state that the Republicans have always carried when they won the Presidency and never carried it when they lost. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:23:32 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents…, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 28 20:47:19 2015. A picture in this case is worth a million words and you can guess which one I adhere to. Funny the good guys are on the left and the baddies are on the right. I find that ironic and sickening. OWS were a pack of dirt bags pure and simple. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:26:33 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 28 23:06:56 2015. We can't win by going so far to the right that we chase the 20% or more of the independents that will decide the 2016 Election Selkirk, and that is what I am having trouble convincing others about. I am loyal to my party but I want to win. I'm pragmatic on that account, and BTW, I am supporting Ohio Governor John Kasich for President because he is the one candidate that is a sure winner in Ohio and my party has never won the Presidency when we didn't carry that state and won't in 2016 unless we do. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 28 23:36:15 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:26:33 2015. Yeah, right now it's more than 12 months away and so far I'm really not impressed by any of them. But thanks to 24/7 instant news, I suppose we all have to drop everything and decide now. Nah ... :)Still waiting to see someone who wants ALL of America to win. Still waiting. (grin) |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 23:39:32 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:17:03 2015. Defunding Planned Parenthood is too far to the right. Women have rights. Basic healthcare is among them. They also are econmically disadvantaged, given the still existing pay inequity especially at the income levels where patients seek resources like Planned Parenthood. The bulk of their work is cancer screening, which is why you hear talk of "killing women" because, without same, women will die. It's a fierce reality that brings up fierce rhetoric. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Aug 29 01:09:40 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents…, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 28 20:47:19 2015. Hmmm wasn't a fan of OWS by any means but the reason they were so many arrest is called civil disobedience. The point was to get arrested. As for the tea party protest i've seen so many signs depicting their racism and intolerance i'm quite sure that isn't want America is about. As for handouts which cost this country more handouts to corps or handouts for poor ppl? Its not even close it's the corps but never seen tea party folk protest that. Who's pockets are they really in? |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Aug 29 01:59:10 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 28 23:36:15 2015. 'Still waiting to see someone who wants ALL of America to win. Still waiting. (grin) 'Amen to that +alot...lol |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 29 05:43:13 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:26:33 2015. Yes, you mentioned Kasich before. He's a big government RINO who justifies left-wing positions falsely according to Christianity—kinda like Pelosi. And WADR, you're talking the same garbage that the establishment RINOs said back in 2012, about Romney. Did you notice that shutting down the government in 2013 (which Obama is actually responsible for) did not lose seats for the GOP in 2014 like the RINOs predicted? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 29 07:48:35 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:21:25 2015. never carried it when they lostHardly ever. Ohio voted for Nixon in 1960 and for Benjamin Harrison in 1892 (Cleveland won). |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 29 08:14:27 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:21:25 2015. I think their crusade in 2010 helped our party win the House, but they can get a little extreme and I don't like the way they attack the illegals because it is interpreted by Hispanics as an attack on them at a groupThat's the "Hispanics'" problem, then. They don't respect our laws. And you should not be stereotyping them, because there are a sizable number that do respect US immigration laws. Why are you putting up for La Raza? And the "Hispanics" must have hated Hillary back in 2003. Talking like a Tea Partier, she was. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 29 08:17:05 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:14:59 2015. People put themselves in boxes, or categories if one likes. Nobody who is for expanding Medicaid is for smaller government. Neither is anyone who is for open borders, which is a communist tenet. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 29 09:34:46 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:21:25 2015. OK Fred, I can go along with that. Apparently illegal immigration is not a priority for you.I like John Kasich, but despite what others here are saying, I am still supporting Ted Cruz because of his conservative stance, and he is the most pro Israel, but Donald Trump is saying the right things, and I think it looks like he will be running away with it. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 29 09:35:58 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:14:59 2015. Excellent post. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 29 09:37:06 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 23:39:32 2015. bla bla bla |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 29 09:38:22 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 29 09:37:06 2015. Over half the population. We vote. Guess you guys don't want to win. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 29 09:39:19 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 29 09:38:22 2015. So All women are pro abortion? Doubtful. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 29 09:47:48 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 29 09:39:19 2015. The majority of Americans are pro choice. Optional, without obstacles in the first trimester, legal and safe thereafter for medical/life/health considerations as determined by the woman and her doctor. And rare, which is the result of full availability of effective contraceptives. These decisions are private, not the business of government, and should be exclusive between the woman/couple and their doctor. That's what the people want.Medical abortion should be, and was intended to be, readily available through a prescription anywhere and everywhere. The newer regimens are far safer than even the original. One does not need to be in a (near) hospital to take two pills. So, if you guys want to win, protip: Stop oppressing women. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 29 09:51:24 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 29 09:47:48 2015. If anything it's more like 50/50. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 29 09:55:12 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 18:37:05 2015. he is trying to turn us into an all white party, something a lot of those cheering him on so enthusiastically seem unable to grasp.You got it backwards. They are grasping it completely and enthusiastically agreeing with him. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 29 10:01:42 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:14:59 2015. shrinking the federal government.......... I want a muscular foreign policyYou said this in the same sentence. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Aug 29 10:05:48 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 29 10:01:42 2015. For real, how can we expect to fight wars if we don't subsidize stealing fetal tissue from poor and minority women. I don't get how only you and not see beach sees the correlation. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 29 10:54:50 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 29 09:51:24 2015. population50.1 to 49.92012 vote53 to 47 |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Aug 29 11:03:53 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 29 10:54:50 2015. Speak English. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 29 11:27:22 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Aug 29 11:03:53 2015. That is English. What we have here is clearly an inability to face facts. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 29 11:57:05 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 29 11:27:22 2015. OK, not exactly 50/50, but anti abortion views are close to 50/50. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Aug 29 12:13:57 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 23:39:32 2015. Women have rightsAnd responsibilities. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Aug 29 12:18:52 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents…, posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Aug 29 01:09:40 2015. Hmmm wasn't a fan of OWS by any means but the reason they were so many arrest is called civil disobedience. The point was to get arrested.As far as I can see, they had no point at all. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 29 12:31:11 2015, in response to Re: One of these presidents..., posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 23:39:32 2015. It's well known why Margret Sanger began planned parenthood and why 78% of planned parenthood offices are located in "black" neighborhoods. So it follows that hillary clinton would find Margaret Sanger so admirable. This leads to the questions of why you admire Hillary Clinton so much and why you so staunchly support the racist planned parenthood organization. |
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