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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 01:31:56 2015 link |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 4 01:39:59 2015, in response to #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 01:31:56 2015. Yeah, but then again, there's an equal number of these. There's someone for everybody! :)
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 01:52:18 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 4 01:39:59 2015. I wont' be drawn into battle with you. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 4 04:28:32 2015, in response to #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 01:31:56 2015. I've seen worse. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 4 10:11:20 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 4 01:39:59 2015. Someone please power acid in my eyes! |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 11:12:02 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 01:52:18 2015. Doesn't matter. Looks like you just lost. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 4 11:17:29 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 11:12:02 2015. Lost what? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 4 12:16:40 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 4 11:17:29 2015. Is your name LuchAAA? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 4 12:41:03 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Dave on Sat Jul 4 10:11:20 2015. 
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 12:44:52 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 4 12:16:40 2015. lol |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 4 13:26:43 2015, in response to #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 01:31:56 2015. Fat pride is ruining America. Shame is an appropriate emotion when it comes to some sort of personal failing. Fat is a personal failing, unless you have some illness. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 13:57:30 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 4 13:26:43 2015. Fat pride, or fat feminism, really seems to be a feminine movement.They are the ones pushing that it's ok to be chubby. And Magic Mike XXL is out now. Same women who think they're victims, have no problem holding men to a higher standard. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:43:56 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 4 04:28:32 2015. it's funny how fat feminism is gaining steam.Seems like every few months a story about fat pride is a headline. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jul 4 15:07:32 2015, in response to #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 01:31:56 2015. She's gorgeous!! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 4 15:10:27 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:43:56 2015. Well, we have transgender, transracial, etc. Why not transfat? |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 4 15:54:35 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 4 12:41:03 2015. Yep! |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 16:09:13 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Dave on Sat Jul 4 15:54:35 2015. Sadly, that cannot be unseen. Yet it must be. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 4 17:26:44 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 4 15:10:27 2015. No, they banned that. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 5 00:42:32 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 4 15:10:27 2015. good point. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 04:30:21 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 4 13:26:43 2015. Fat is a personal failing...How you figure? |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 04:32:52 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jul 4 15:10:27 2015. Transgender, transracial, and trans fat are all real things, but they're all radically different from each other. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 04:34:44 2015, in response to #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 01:31:56 2015. EWW!I'm not a bigot or anything, but I find squishy biological organisms to be viscerally disgusting. It's far more elegant to exist only on paper, yet because of that I'm deemed a nonperson by every country on the planet except America. Corporate pride! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 5 11:24:41 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 04:30:21 2015. If you wanted the answer? Why didn’t you read the rest of the post? |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 19:33:53 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 5 11:24:41 2015. Fat pride is ruining America. Shame is an appropriate emotion when it comes to some sort of personal failing. Fat is a personal failing, unless you have some illness.I still don't see how fat is a personal failing. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 5 20:48:07 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 19:33:53 2015. Because diet and exercise can lead one to lose weight, unless one has some illness that would contraindicate doing that. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 20:56:48 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 5 20:48:07 2015. Because diet and exercise can lead one to lose weight, unless one has some illness that would contraindicate doing that.First, that's not actually true. Diet and exercise can lead to a temporary weight loss, but this provokes the body to react as if it were starving— metabolism slows to compensate for exercise, and hunger increases dramatically causing diets to end. "Willpower" is not a solution; very few people have the willpower to override basic survival instinct. (If you think otherwise, I'll pay you $1,000 to hold your hand in a candle flame for an hour; pain and the instinctive drive to end it is just a survival reaction, so surely you can muster the willpower to put it on hold for a mere hour to earn such a considerable payout.) Significant permanent weight loss is biologically impossible for most people. However, more importantly, you have not explained why being fat is a personal failing. Even if something could be changed by a simple act does not make the refusal to do so a "personal failing." After all, you could easily learn how to become a plumber; does that make your lack of plumbing skills a "personal failing?" |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Jul 5 21:32:27 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 20:56:48 2015. IAWTP. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 5 21:54:32 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 20:56:48 2015. No, but I think this might qualify. :)
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 5 22:16:23 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 5 20:48:07 2015. why try? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 5 22:18:57 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 20:56:48 2015. Gawd, hell must have frozen over. I actually agree with Nilet. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 5 22:23:01 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 5 22:18:57 2015. pretty sad because he's right most of the time.So how the hell can it take so along to agree with him? I weight 192 with a goal of 178. Thanks and be safe. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 5 23:08:19 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 5 22:23:01 2015. Basically because he's an asshole. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Jul 5 23:33:16 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 5 22:18:57 2015. That's how I felt, Sarge. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 5 23:43:34 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 20:56:48 2015. That whole "metabolism" thing is bullshit. The body doesn't magically become more energy efficient because you eat less. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 23:57:39 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 5 23:43:34 2015. There's nothing "magical" about it. When you're running, you burn more energy than when you're walking; when you're awake, you burn more energy than when you're asleep. When you see a threat, your metabolism speeds up preemptively to prepare you to run away, and when you prepare for bed, your metabolism slows down preemptively in anticipation of sleep.In fact, your metabolism changes many times throughout the day, often in anticipation of future needs. Starvation is just one of the many triggers of metabolic changes. Meanwhile, the sensation of hunger and the drive to eat is also regulated up and down throughout the day— and starvation cranks it into overdrive. Trying to resist that basic survival instinct is all but impossible, as my example with the candle should demonstrate. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Jul 6 00:00:05 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jul 5 23:08:19 2015. I'd ask you on what basis you think I'm an asshole but we both know you can't answer that.So instead, I'll point out that being an asshole has basically no relationship to being wrong, so even if your claim was entirely true, you're basically declaring that you've chosen to deny simple facts because I was too rude in pointing them out. Which is not exactly a very mature thing to do. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 00:11:08 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 23:57:39 2015. It's not nearly the same. The candle would actually be destroying my hand. Eating less is not destructive, until you are actually starving.And exercise and weight loss can change metabolism, but not just eating more or less. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Jul 6 00:20:12 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 00:11:08 2015. It's not nearly the same. The candle would actually be destroying my hand. Eating less is not destructive, until you are actually starving.I'm sure I could devise a method for inflicting pain without causing physical destruction. The point remains— very few people have the "willpower" to override basic survival instinct for any length of time, yet you think any fat person should easily have enough willpower to do it for every waking hour of their life. And exercise and weight loss can change metabolism, but not just eating more or less. Many things can change metabolism. Starvation is one of them. When you are starving, your body will automatically slow your metabolism to conserve energy. And when you lose any significant amount of weight, your body assumes that you are starving. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 00:21:41 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Mon Jul 6 00:20:12 2015. No, it won't. Your body will still require the same amount of energy to operate. Just like you can't make your car more fuel efficient just because you're running out of gas. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Jul 6 00:36:41 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 00:21:41 2015. No, it won't. Your body will still require the same amount of energy to operate.That's not correct. Metabolism varies from one person to the next, and from one activity to the next— if it were not possible to increase your metabolism, then exercise wouldn't burn additional calories. Your body naturally regulates your metabolism in response to many factors; starvation (or the appearance thereof) is one of them. Just like you can't make your car more fuel efficient just because you're running out of gas. Your car is a decidedly simpler machine than your body— since it does not naturally regulate its energy usage, your analogy is not apt. Although if you consider the driver as "part" of the car, then your analogy actually backfires— if you're running out of gas, you may choose to take the direct route home rather than a circuitous scenic route, thus making the driver-car system more energy efficient at the task of getting home. Of course, the more likely scenario is that if you're running out of gas, you'll buy more gas. Similarly, when your body thinks it's running out of fuel, it will activate your survival instincts to compel you to add more fuel. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 00:44:46 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Mon Jul 6 00:36:41 2015. Your last paragraph: Yes, that is exactly what happens; you become hungry. So losing weight is simply a matter of willpower. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 00:51:28 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 5 23:43:34 2015. yes, it does. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 00:55:14 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 00:51:28 2015. FALSE!Unless by eating less you've lost weight and are thus now lighter and require less energy to move around. But in that case you've achieved the goal of weight loss. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 6 01:20:31 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Mon Jul 6 00:20:12 2015. Many things can change metabolism. Starvation is one of them.So true. It's one of the problems with diet and exercise. You adjust your base metabolic rate over time. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Jul 6 02:27:49 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 00:44:46 2015. Your last paragraph: Yes, that is exactly what happens; you become hungry. So losing weight is simply a matter of willpower.Except as I explained, nobody has the "willpower" to override basic survival instinct for very long. You couldn't do it for an hour, yet you think any fat person can do it for every waking hour for the rest of their life? Starvation is not the same thing as "hunger." Consider yourself lucky that you have never felt it. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 6 05:01:33 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 5 20:56:48 2015. After all, you could easily learn how to become a plumber; does that make your lack of plumbing skills a "personal failing?"Not learning how to be a plumber does not affect personal/collective health or other people's health insurance rates or government health budgets. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jul 6 05:05:50 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Mon Jul 6 00:20:12 2015. very few people have the "willpower" to override basic survival instinct for any length of time,Nobody is saying that fat people should willfully "starve" themselves. As you pointed out, it will have counter-intuitive effects. However their lack of willpower in resisting that seventh trip to the buffet table is a personal failing. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 6 06:29:40 2015, in response to Re: #fatfeminism Check out this bod, posted by Nilet on Mon Jul 6 02:27:49 2015. Why couldn't I do it for an hour? I've been doing it for years.And my point is that starvation is not the same as hunger. I've pointed out that the former is the equivalent to burning your hand but that the latter is not. |
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