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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 22 14:56:09 2015 This morning, I had the honor and privilege to attend President Obama's speech at Adas Israel Congregation in Washington, DC to mark Jewish American Heritage Month. I was seated about 50 feet away from where the president gave his speech; I figure that is probably about as close to a sitting president during my lifetime. You can read the full text of the president's remarks .This speech, as well as an interview with Jeffery Goldberg of the Atlantic are part of an effort by Obama to convince American Jewry that he supports Israel and other matters important to them. I'd say the audience was friendly, but there were definitely times that while some were applauding, others were sitting on their hands, including myself. The speech itself covered little new ground, although Obama did acknowledge the Palestinians have been difficult peace partners. If only he would say that to some other audiences sometime. He also reiterated his stances on the Iran nuclear deal, his vision for a two state solution, and all the other usual talking points. He also spoke about the influence that the Torah, Jewish historical narrative, and pioneering Israel have on his worldview. While I think he does truly believe that he has Israel's best interests at heart, as I've said before, I think Obama has stumbled badly in demonstrating that through his actions. As a result of misguided advice, beliefs, or something else, I believe we are further from peace in the Middle East today than we were on January 20, 2009. I don't see the Iran deal changing that reality and I place significant blame on Obama for bungling the peace process as he has. He also said he holds Israel to a higher standard because of its democratic, liberal values. I'm glad he realizes Israel is a liberal democracy, but does he hold other countries to nearly as high a standard resulting in public rebukes of their leaders? It doesn't seem so to me. Anyway, even though I didn't agree with every line of the speech nor do I agree with every word and action of Obama's during his administration, I am still starstruck by having been in the same room as him while he spoke this morning. No matter what you think of Obama or anyone else who has held or will hold the title of commander in chief, the office of the president deserves everyone's utmost respect. I know not everyone in the room this morning is in lockstep with Obama's ideas, but he certainly was respected by the audience, reflecting another Jewish value of having civilized debate and discussion, even on matters where there is disagreement.  
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Posted by SLRT on Fri May 22 16:34:44 2015, in response to Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 22 14:56:09 2015. Thanks for the posting and the review.He also said he holds Israel to a higher standard because of its democratic, liberal values. I'm glad he realizes Israel is a liberal democracy, but does he hold other countries to nearly as high a standard resulting in public rebukes of their leaders? It doesn't seem so to me. This argument has been used as a sword against Israel for as long as I remember (especially from friends on the left). Even if he is sincere, this argument is at best patronizing and at worst racist (oddly, toward Israel's enemies): It's saying, "you're better than them, and therefore they're worse than you, so we make allowances for their inferiority." It's like saying: "You're adults, and they're children." As you imply, countries who are way down on the totem pole of liberal democracy have a lower standard. Iran is supposed to be "engaged" and convinced "to join the community of nations." |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Fri May 22 17:44:26 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SLRT on Fri May 22 16:34:44 2015. Hm...he also does this with american cities and suburbs, high schools, and so on. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 18:14:13 2015, in response to Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 22 14:56:09 2015. Any Jew who attended this speech is a self hating Jew, and should be excumumicated. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 22 18:20:11 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 18:14:13 2015. That's stupid. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 22 18:20:26 2015, in response to Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 22 14:56:09 2015. Awesome! |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 18:34:50 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 22 18:20:11 2015. I suppose you would have went. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 18:36:37 2015, in response to Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 22 14:56:09 2015. I wonder if there were any self Jews picketing? |
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Posted by dand124 on Fri May 22 18:44:04 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 18:14:13 2015. Any Jew who attended this speech is a self hating Jew, and should be excumumicated.Do you mean Heremed? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 19:20:59 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by dand124 on Fri May 22 18:44:04 2015. He gets his religious education from Mike Huckabee, Steve King and Michele BachmannHe cheremed himself quite a while ago. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 19:23:13 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 19:20:59 2015. All three righteous gentiles. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri May 22 19:34:30 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 18:14:13 2015. excumumicated? Sounds painful |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 19:40:05 2015, in response to Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 22 14:56:09 2015. Excellent!It is not obvious now, but our 44th President has forever changed America and indeed the world for the better. His Presidency is a watershed. Like Washington, Lincoln and FDR before him, posterity will record the chronicles of the leaps and bounds of American Progress as before-Obama and after-Obama. One day you will be able tell your children's children how things were like before this great man became President. They will then themselves one day tell their own children's children how their grandfather (you) once told them how this man greatly improved the human condition. These are great times to be alive. God Bless Barack Obama. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 20:05:36 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 19:40:05 2015. Fuck you. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 22 20:34:29 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 19:40:05 2015. LOL. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 21:46:45 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 18:34:50 2015. No. He would have gone because he can speak English. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 21:47:47 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 19:23:13 2015. FALSE!Mike Huckabee is at least respectable. The other two are not. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri May 22 21:53:56 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 20:05:36 2015. +2.+1 for general agreement and an additional +1 for demonstrated economy of expression. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 21:54:30 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 21:47:47 2015. Mike Huckabee is at least respectable.He is not. He's a literal huckster. -------------------------- Mike Huckabee Is Literally a Con Artist BY PAUL WALDMAN | The American Prospect Mike Huckabee is widely known as an amiable fellow. Whatever you might think of his politics, he seems like a nice guy. But Mike Huckabee is a con artist. Literally. Like many conservative pundits, Huckabee maintains an email list that he uses to generate income. The way it works is that because of his public profile, lots of people will sign up for his list, and then he can sell those names and addresses to people who want to sell things to those people. Maybe it's a book from a conservative publisher, say, or a pitch to donate to a conservative cause. But in many cases, it's just a con. Like this email that Huckabee recently sent, which Buzzfeed's Andrew Kaczynski shares with us:  Let's be clear about what this is. Huckabee is partnering with another con artist, whose con is to use people's religious faith as a way to sell them bullshit "miracle" cancer cures and nutritional supplements. He's hardly the only one playing this game. There's a long history of conservatives buying and selling lists of their supporters to be used as marks for all manner of scams. If you're interested, Rick Perlstein explains it here in detail. The key element in the confidence man's game is confidence—the confidence that the mark has in the con man. The mark needs to trust you, and then you can steal anything from them. And the people on his email list, who I'm sure consist mostly of elderly white people in the South and Midwest, trust Mike Huckabee. When the snake-oil salesman with the secret biblical cure for cancer pays Huckabee to send a promotional email to that list, he's renting that trust, which will enable him to steal those people's money. Now let's think about this on an individual level. Right now there's a devout couple in their 80s who just found out that their 55-year-old daughter has cervical cancer. They're terrified. They'd do anything to help her. And then they get an email from that nice Mike Huckabee, pointing them toward a miracle cure for cancer hidden right there in the Bible. It must be legit, because Mike Huckabee wouldn't rope them into a scam. So they head right over to the web site, watch the video about the "Matthew 4 protocol" and the "frankincense extract," then they send away for the free bonus gift of "The Bible's Healing Code Revealed" which comes with a one-year subscription to Dr. Mark Stengler's Health Revelations—half price if you're a senior citizen!—and they whip out that credit card and start ordering all the supplements they can. They tell their daughter, with pain and fear in their voices, that this is what can cure her if only she'll believe and they keep buying. These are the people—gullible, afraid, at the most desperate point of their lives—that Mike Huckabee sees as marks just waiting to be scammed. I happen to find Huckabee's opinions on public policy repellent. But even if you're a conservative who agrees with him on political issues, how can you look at this kind of thing and not be disgusted? So the next time you see Mike Huckabee on TV, with his ready smile and easy laugh, and you catch yourself thinking that he's a nice guy, remember how he makes money. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 21:58:41 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 21:54:30 2015. I stand corrected. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 22:06:09 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SLRT on Fri May 22 21:53:56 2015. Thank you. I think. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 22:10:50 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 21:58:41 2015. I also used to think that while he was wrong on issues he was at least personally decent.He got me too. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri May 22 22:13:57 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 19:40:05 2015. Like Washington, Lincoln and FDR before him, posterity will record the chronicles of the leaps and bounds of American Progress as before-Obama and after-Obama.You're out of your mind to compare those three Presidential icons to Obama. In case you need to be reminded, they're dead. They can't salvage their reputations from that kind of insult. Get off of Cloud Nine, please, SPAZ. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 22:15:57 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri May 22 22:13:57 2015. Closest one is FDR. But where have we heard Obama speak of God in the same terms that Lincoln did? (I'm still waiting to hear it.) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 22:18:56 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 18:36:37 2015. "self Jews"?Like the Tories in Britain, the "Cnoservative" Jews are liberal. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 22:25:24 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 22:15:57 2015. But where have we heard Obama speak of God in the same terms that Lincoln did? (I'm still waiting to hear it.)You want Obama to say say these things? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 22:32:13 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 18:36:37 2015. Correction.I wonder if there were any self respecting Jews picketing? I was riding the Ravenswood/brown line when I wrote that. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 22:33:07 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 19:40:05 2015. You are an asshole. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 22:34:18 2015, in response to Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 22 14:56:09 2015. Also Oren. You're ugly. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 22:58:36 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri May 22 22:13:57 2015. You're out of your mind to compare those three Presidential icons to Obama.In 30 years everyone will be comparing him to those icons. And your children's children will agree. They will speak of him with the same whispered reverence that we bestow on those other three. They will thank us for our wisdom in choosing him to save this nation in a time of dire peril and bringing it forward to prodigious new heights. They will be inspired by the knowledge that in America, the promises of our Founding, even when seemingly lost, have endured thanks to the work of a great man. The era Before Obama will be incomprehensible to them. Just as pre-Independence and pre-Civil War and pre-New Deal America is incomprehensible to us. They will ask "what took you so long?" They will envy us for having the luck of inhabiting these cherished days for they will know that we have not merely existed in the Era of Obama. We have LIVED him. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 22:59:52 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 22:58:36 2015. You an idiot. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 23:07:36 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 22:59:52 2015. You just made AlM really mad. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 23:08:40 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 23:07:36 2015. You're an asshole. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 23:10:08 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 23:07:36 2015. You're an asshole. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri May 22 23:12:06 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 23:10:08 2015. You're a double-poster |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 23:38:15 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by mtk52983 on Fri May 22 23:12:06 2015. ? |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri May 22 23:39:31 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 21:46:45 2015. Pwned |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 22 23:44:15 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by mtk52983 on Fri May 22 23:12:06 2015. Now that's not right ... doubles are the new and major thing! Check em! :)
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 23 00:09:36 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 23:10:08 2015. This is what Edwards! is gonna do to you |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat May 23 00:41:30 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 22 22:58:36 2015. In 30 years everyone will be comparing him to those icons.Such delusions of grandeur, will be forgotten long after the next Presidential election. Keep dreaming. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 23 00:42:12 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat May 23 00:41:30 2015. Does he mean like how Carter is being compared to "those icons"? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 23 00:48:56 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SMAZ on Sat May 23 00:09:36 2015. Why, because I don't worship blacks like you do? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 00:50:49 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat May 23 00:41:30 2015. Sorta like those "delusions of grandeur" surrounding Reagan who sent the US into the spiral it's been in ever since his tenure? :) |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 23 00:53:43 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 00:50:49 2015. Bullshit. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 01:35:50 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 23 00:53:43 2015. It's what America great! :) |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 23 01:41:47 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 01:35:50 2015. It took you a half hour to come up with that. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 01:53:58 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 23 01:41:47 2015. It took me a half hour to SEE that. Seriously, bro ... there's other things to do in life besides dropping by here to compare it to 4chan. :) |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat May 23 07:40:54 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 23 00:42:12 2015. I wish Carter would go away like most other former Presidents |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon May 25 11:41:35 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 22:34:18 2015. Wtf? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon May 25 11:42:52 2015, in response to Re: Obama Visits Conservative DC Synagogue to Mark Jewish American Heritage Month, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 22 22:32:13 2015. I saw one protester outside as I was leaving. The departing crowd mostly ignored her or told her she was spewing pure bullshit. |
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