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Posted by AlM on Sat May 16 08:26:55 2015 I'm actually surprised.I thought gun manufacturers were doing well, given all the fear that Obama will outlaw everything. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 09:56:18 2015, in response to Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by AlM on Sat May 16 08:26:55 2015. Not exactly. A lot of that was hype, driven by and for the gun owning minority getting paranoid about new laws restricting ownership (which have time and again held up in the courts) after the latest wave of mass murders (VT, Aurora, SandyHook). That paranoia is subsiding.What HAS been happening is a withdrawal of capital from gunmakers overall. From individual investors to large institutions, investment funds are drying up fast. With sales once again continuing what has been a slow long term decline, these companies are struggling to deal with their debt. No one *wants* to own them. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat May 16 10:29:15 2015, in response to Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by AlM on Sat May 16 08:26:55 2015. If one can't find a buyer for ANYTHING, such as real estate, it just means one thing: They're asking too much. Anything can be sold at the right price. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat May 16 10:32:26 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat May 16 10:29:15 2015. Of course. However, they have a fiduciary duty to their investors. They aren't allowed to just give it away. And they have determined that no sale of the company is as good for their investors as to keep on owning the company. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 16 10:40:41 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 09:56:18 2015. As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about.Is the buying frenzy of 2012-2013 over? Yes. But the more likely a Hillary Clinton victory looks, the more advance ‘fear buying’ will recur. Demand for ammunition is still unbelievably strong. Investment funds are not "drying up fast" for publicly traded gun and ammunition manufacturers. Of the three publicly trade gun and ammunition manufacturers, Smith & Wesson and Sturm Ruger have about 71% of their stock held by institutional investors. Olin has almost 90% of its stock held by institutional investors. These stocks pulled back last year but have recovered nicely this year. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 11:23:24 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 10:40:41 2015. Not according to the article. Obviously you didn't read it. Nor did you cite where your numbers came from, so we'll have to ass-ume....I don't believe a Clinton victory will do very much about gun owner paranoia, at least at first. Will there be tighter restrictions passed during her Presidency? I hope so, especially tightening background checks. My wish is that something gets done WRT competency, similar to licensing drivers. Guns are a health threat to all. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 16 12:29:08 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 11:23:24 2015. The percent of institutional ownership of a publicly traded company is easily found via Google. Try it sometime rather than blathering on and on and on.... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 12:48:47 2015, in response to Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by AlM on Sat May 16 08:26:55 2015. Maybe they should have just stayed in New York. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 13:11:25 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 12:29:08 2015. Who's blathering...oh yeah, you. You make statements, YOU back them up. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 16 13:20:11 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 13:11:25 2015. lol |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 16 13:50:25 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 13:11:25 2015. http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/rgr/institutional-holdings |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 13:56:58 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 13:50:25 2015. Better. Still doesn't explain the plethora of investors wanting OUT from gun manufacturers. They're becoming like South Africa in the late 80s. May look good on paper, but the evil overwhelmsCalifornia Teachers Retirement is one of the biggest there is. They are getting OUT of guns. Seems wise, what teacher would support something that could kill them without a moment's notice? Like what happened in Sandy Hook, Vt, any number of schools across the country? This cam't be rationalized away. Getting out is the best option. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 16 15:04:30 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 13:56:58 2015. False. The percent of institutional investors in the public companies has been increasing to steady. Sale of private companies can be for many reasons and public opinion is usually the least of those reasons.Further poking holes in your fallacious argument is that teachers are carrying guns: Utah Texas Colorado Oklahoma |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sat May 16 15:07:10 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 15:04:30 2015. LOL Typical |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 16:01:46 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 15:04:30 2015. Anyone with half a brain wouldn't want to go near three of those four states, especially women. Most teachersstill are. And Colorado is quite worrisome, don't see where the intelligence went.It is perfectly fine for rational competent people in rural areas to own guns, one needs to defend against wildlife. There is NO need for them in urban areas, schools, Starbucks (for example)or any establishment that serves alcohol. They are a deadly comboin the latter. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 16:01:47 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 15:04:30 2015. Anyone with half a brain wouldn't want to go near three of those four states, especially women. Most teachersstill are. And Colorado is quite worrisome, don't see where the intelligence went.It is perfectly fine for rational competent people in rural areas to own guns, one needs to defend against wildlife. There is NO need for them in urban areas, schools, Starbucks (for example)or any establishment that serves alcohol. They are a deadly comboin the latter. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 16 16:04:38 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 16:01:46 2015. iawtp |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 16 16:05:02 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 16:01:47 2015. iawtp |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 16:05:23 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 15:04:30 2015. One last question.... Guns are intended to harm. It's their only purpose. You come off as a NRA-dogmatic gun lover. Which means you wish harm on everyone. Why? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 16 16:06:19 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 16:05:23 2015. guns are meant to kill bingbong |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 16 16:07:33 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 16:05:23 2015. I'm a lover of the Second Amendment. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 16 16:08:58 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 16:01:46 2015. There are four other states that allow teachers to be armed: Alabama, Kansas, South Dakota, Tennessee. And more will pass legislation allowing it in the next 1 - 2 years. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 16 16:09:40 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 16 16:06:19 2015. You never learned how to use punctuation, did you?ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 16 16:11:52 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 16:09:40 2015. drop dead davey from texasss^^^ bet you read this clear right LOL |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat May 16 17:19:37 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 16:07:33 2015. Protip: thee's 26 more. Not to forget the lng history of gun control laws. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 17:44:02 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 16:08:58 2015. The more states you add to the list, the funnier it gets. All Dumbfuckistan. Except for Colorado where we can excuse it as reefer madness. :) |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 16 18:04:20 2015, in response to Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by AlM on Sat May 16 08:26:55 2015. Don't men still use Remingtons anymore? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 16 18:24:03 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 16 18:04:20 2015. that is the shaver i own now !cuts real good too |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 16 18:28:04 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 16 18:24:03 2015. Yeah. Me too. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 16 18:32:59 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 16 18:28:04 2015. yep !!runs on internal battery |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 16 18:53:04 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 17:44:02 2015. You miss the point (as usual). Bingbong said no teacher wants guns in the classroom. She was wrong (again). |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 16 18:53:14 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 17:44:02 2015. You miss the point (as usual). Bingbong said no teacher wants guns in the classroom. She was wrong (again). |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 16 18:53:29 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 18:53:14 2015. Sorry for the double post. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 16 20:34:48 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 17:44:02 2015. I'm not trying to be a wiseass, but what exactly IS Dumbfuckistan? Yes, I've seen the map, but what does it mean? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 16 20:36:07 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 16 18:04:20 2015. MEN have beards! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 16 21:06:09 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 16 20:36:07 2015. How did you get through the itchiness? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 00:00:57 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 18:53:04 2015. Given the high quality of education down south, I'm not sure I'd qualify them as "teachers". I imagine having someone with a gun up in front of a class would at least make them sure to show up. :)And congratulations on emulating the turtle, focusing on "wrong" ... this is subchat, not an educational foundation. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 00:01:46 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 16 20:34:48 2015. A place where intellectual capacity is lacking, resulting in some bizarre outcomes of elections. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 00:03:23 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 16 21:06:09 2015. You let it grow. It's like riding the IRT. If you stay with it long enough, it eventually starts emptying out. :) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun May 17 07:07:14 2015, in response to Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by AlM on Sat May 16 08:26:55 2015. Maybe they should lobby Obama and the other Democrats to pass a gun control law, lol.Obama is just not making the numbers these days! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 18 04:30:44 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 16 21:06:09 2015. It never itched. Only some MILD discomfort about the 2-4 week stage. Maybe not even that long. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 18 04:31:59 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 00:01:46 2015. But the same can be said of ANYWHERE, including the NE. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon May 18 08:08:35 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by Dave on Sat May 16 18:53:04 2015. Wrong still. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 18 15:05:51 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 18 04:31:59 2015. Yeah, but some places have an excess overhang when rounding the curve. :) |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 19 00:53:21 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 18 15:05:51 2015. There are some PRETTY stupid people from around this part of the country as well. One just has to look at who put Warren in Gracie Mansion, nevermind BHO in the White House. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 19 01:09:33 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 19 00:53:21 2015. Take a look at the alternative options to them. The voters did the best they could. :) |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 19 01:58:01 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 19 01:09:33 2015. Maybe with BHO, but for Warren, I think Bill Thompson would be better. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 19 02:03:07 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 19 01:58:01 2015. I don't remember the details, but it was looking like Thompson was going to get it and then something screwed up on his end. FWIW though, the NYC mayor has pretty much been a figurehead since Wagner. Yeah, folks like Rudy can get out there and beat cameras to death for attention, but it's really NYPD, Real Estate interests and the Council that actually does stuff and makes it happen.They could elect Olog and nothing would change. DiBlasio's slowly starting to notice that too. :) |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 19 02:20:57 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 19 02:03:07 2015. Thompson was going to get it UNTIL the commercial with Dante in it appeared......... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 19 02:31:40 2015, in response to Re: Owner of Remington can't find a buyer, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 19 02:20:57 2015. Since I've not lived down there for ages, I don't remember the details, didn't really care. But towards the end, something went off the rails with the Thompson camp and I seriously doubt that commercial was what swayed the voters. But whatever, Bill won and it still doesn't matter. He's the official puppet on stage but he ain't running a DAMNED thing down there any more than any other figurehead at Gracie Mansion. That bus left nearly a century ago. |
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