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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 4 18:17:49 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 4 17:29:59 2015.

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Who are they?

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 4 18:19:02 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 4 18:17:49 2015.

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The Beatles.

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 4 18:33:02 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 4 18:19:02 2015.

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That was actually funny.

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 4 18:39:10 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 4 17:17:08 2015.

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Am I supposed to be impressed?

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 4 18:47:05 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 4 18:39:10 2015.

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Permission ... granted. :)

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 21:11:15 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 4 15:44:30 2015.

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ok, so we try to get those concessions from Iran and Iran says no.

Then what?

Netanyahu would be happy because we walked away from an otherwise weak deal.


Then what?

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 21:14:54 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 4 15:34:42 2015.

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Would ZU have enough allies for a majority coalition though?



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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 4 22:49:05 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 4 18:17:49 2015.

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Beats me. But if you spent your night tonight in a way similar to how I spent mine, you'd know WHAT they were doing, which is the point of the post.

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 4 22:49:42 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 21:11:15 2015.

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And the existing economic sanctions should remain in place.

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Mar 4 23:34:54 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 4 22:49:05 2015.

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Drop dead.

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 23:43:47 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 4 22:49:42 2015.

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and Iran gets the bomb?

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 4 23:46:16 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 4 22:49:42 2015.

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My understanding is the sanctions were working better than anything this proposed deal will do.

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 5 02:49:32 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 4 23:46:16 2015.

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So the idea is that if the sanctions are really tough, Iran will be forced to accept more stringent controls on its nuclear program than the ones currently being negotiated.

That's at least a realistic theory. I do see one catch. You have to convince the EU and probably even Russia and China to go along. Sanctions don't work unless they are pretty unanimous, as the current ones are.



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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 5 08:54:43 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 5 02:49:32 2015.

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Obviously the Saudis have to be on board as their discount oil plan gives the sanctions more bite.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 5 08:56:44 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 5 08:54:43 2015.

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I'm thinking the EU is the biggest issue. They certainly can be wimps on occasion. And a hard line on sanctions will be a sieve without their support.



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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 5 11:16:51 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 5 08:56:44 2015.

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I think there wimpiness is proportional to the price of oil.

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Netanyahu's Speech

Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 5 11:18:21 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 5 11:16:51 2015.

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I think their wimpiness is proportional to the price of oil.

It is national grammar day LOL

Your pal,
Fred

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