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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 3 17:17:09 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 3 15:51:32 2015. You have to be conscious at times to be so diagnosed. He's comatose. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Mar 3 18:35:29 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 3 15:04:14 2015. What issues istitutionally in the US has the jewish ppl gone through they needed support on? |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Mar 3 18:50:08 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 3 15:52:30 2015. Whose fault is that?It's easy to blame the black community for not publicizing these efforts, but it's easy to brush it off. In other words, it's all well and good that Jewish people helped in the movement, but when you blame your "Jew landlord" for high rents, or some "Jew stealing all of the welfare" and some other Jewish guy for being a crappy boss or customer, or even white people in general for why your life turned out a certain way, there's nothing much that awareness will do. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 3 19:07:13 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 16:26:19 2015. OK. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 19:33:19 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 3 17:17:09 2015. zzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 3 19:35:50 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 19:33:19 2015. Wake up ass hole |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Mar 3 21:08:55 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 3 15:48:55 2015. I remember that strike. I was in 5th grade at P. S. 161. Once it was over, we had to stay an hour extra to make up the instructional time we missed, so my mom packed an extra lunch for me. Also, I don't remember all the exact details, but I think the school asked for parent volunteers to come to the school in the evening to keep something from happening (lockout?) So my mom and I went and brought our dog. She was still basically a puppy, but even then, she didn't take any shit. :) IIRC, one time, someone approached the gate and she barked and they backed off. Doberman/Basenji mix (as far as we can determine). Best dog ever!! :) |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 3 21:33:06 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 3 16:32:33 2015. Thank you Dave. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:35:46 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 3 16:32:33 2015. no it is not ! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:36:06 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 3 21:33:06 2015. no thanks davey from texassssss |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:36:55 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 3 19:35:50 2015. Wake up ass hole |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 3 21:38:48 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Mar 3 17:08:40 2015. Snoring = lack of oxygen = sleep apnea = dead brain cells = Salaam. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 3 21:40:15 2015, in response to Leadership 101 Speech, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 3 16:24:10 2015. It's funny you use that description. No sooner had Bibi finished speaking that one of my oldest friends called me from St. Louis and used almost those exact same words. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:42:07 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 3 21:38:48 2015. davey from texasssss fucked up nazi kkk |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Mar 3 21:44:02 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 3 14:02:46 2015. In hindsight, I'm not sure it split the Democrats as much as some might have wanted. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Mar 3 21:44:58 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:35:46 2015. Your posts over many years suggest otherwise. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 3 21:54:09 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:36:55 2015. Chimpy wanna banana? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:54:18 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 3 21:54:09 2015. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:54:41 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Mar 3 21:44:58 2015. bullshit |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 3 22:05:57 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 3 15:14:01 2015. Before the speech, the Obama administration was warning Bibi not to reveal anything new about the Iran "deal".After the speech, the Obama administration criticized Bibi for not saying anything new about the Iran "deal". |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Mar 3 22:07:09 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 3 13:40:56 2015. So what would you like to know? Here are my thoughts at the moment, in no particular order.1. It's too bad all the drama surrounding the decision to give the speech ended up overshadowing the speech itself. I still think Netanyahu probably shouldn't have made the trip in light of the upcoming election in Israel, but he came and gave a speech that did a fairly good job of explaining why the deal with Iran is so problematic. 2. The decision to make this trip and give the speech put many American Jews in a very uncomfortable position in having to choose whether to support the president's position and office or the State of Israel. As an American Jew, I wish Netanyahu didn't put me in that place, and I know many others from across the political spectrum who believe that. American Jews should not be put in a position by Israel where they appear to have to choose between one country or the other, one of the most common accusations anti-Semites make when wanting to show why they can't trust Jews. 3. Despite the belief/hopes of the far left within the Jewish community, the fissure this speech caused within the American Jewish community and Congress is not as large or as deep as they hoped for. The fact that only the Congressional Black Caucus, far left congresspeople, and a few more from very safe seats didn't attend while pretty much everyone else did says where Congress actually stands on Israel and Iran at the end of the day. 4. Netanyahu could have and should have offered more details on what he would like to see done vis a vis Iran instead of just reminding us what he does not want. By extension, this is why I'm hoping he loses his election in two weeks. Since 2009, we've found out a lot about what Bibi is not for, but very little about what he actually wants (aside from remaining in office). 5. Obama's continued failure to understand geopolitics and the Middle East is very concerning. The contrast between the two men as described here is almost as clear as mud. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 3 22:46:08 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:54:41 2015. Yes, you're full of bullshit. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 3 22:47:13 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:42:07 2015. 
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Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 3 22:48:05 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:54:18 2015. Snoring = lack of oxygen = sleep apnea = dead brain cells = Salaam. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 3 23:03:46 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Mar 3 22:07:09 2015. My thoughts:1) True, Netanyahu could have given the speech from Israel but most Americans wouldn't have paid any attention to it. He gave a very credible speech and now most Americans are at least somewhat aware that there might be a problem with Obama's approach. 2) I think when people say most American Jews, they are projecting their own feelings. I have no discomfort with the decision. I wish that it hadn't been so polarizing but the speech itself was not. It was the old democrat vs Republican that got twisted around this issue. 3) I agree 4)Again, I agree 5)The contrast was made quite evident by the clear and concise reasoning presented by the Prime Minister. He presented a very clear and understandable explanation of why he didn't like the deal as he understood it. I personally agree with the reasoning. I think that our president should have been listening and learning how a strong, decisive leader speaks and acts instead of pretending not to be listening while finding reasons to disagree with the speech. On the other hand, I can see why some in congress might disagree as the urgency felt in Israel over this issue is not felt in this country. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 3 23:04:52 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 3 22:47:13 2015. LOL |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 3 23:16:14 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 3 23:03:46 2015. So what did Netanyahu suggest that we, America, do in place of a bad agreement with Iran?Maybe you heard him suggest something that I and millions of others might have missed. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 3 23:17:13 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 3 14:02:46 2015. I think they may have done it out of conscience, and to back the President.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 3 23:20:59 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 3 23:03:46 2015. It was a good campaign speech for Netanyahu and he reiterated points we already know but I heard no vision and no alternative plan to our current one. All I heard was "axis of evil" type rhetoric.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 3 23:34:56 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 3 23:16:14 2015. I still don't get how he can criticize a deal that doesn't exist and whose terms he does not know. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 3 23:35:11 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 3 23:20:59 2015. Yep. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 3 23:46:10 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 3 21:54:41 2015. drop dead salaamallahdrop dead!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 3 23:51:50 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 3 15:50:19 2015. Jews have a weird relationship with blacks.I'll bet most Jews would rather see O'Reilly off the air before Sharpton. Really. Jews are more concerned about vandalism than violent crimes like a black guy going to Brooklyn to stab a Jewish kid. So work it out with salaamallah because historically, you're allies. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 3 23:58:28 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 3 23:51:50 2015.  your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 4 00:02:00 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 3 23:58:28 2015. Subchat addiction. It's like Netflix without the warning. :)
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 4 00:03:14 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 3 23:58:28 2015. yes. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 4 00:03:16 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 3 23:16:14 2015. Didn't you listen to his speech? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 4 00:07:46 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 3 23:20:59 2015. Other than suggesting that we get tough at the bargaining table and if necessary let iran walk away from the table, you are correct. Did you hope that he'd suggest the use of tactical nukes? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 00:08:55 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 3 23:51:50 2015. Jews are more concerned about vandalism than violent crimes like a black guy going to Brooklyn to stab a Jewish kid.
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 00:09:23 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 4 00:03:16 2015. Yeah I did.Did you? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 00:11:10 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 4 00:07:46 2015. Other than suggesting that we get tough at the bargaining table and if necessary let iran walk away from the table, you are correct.ok. So Iran walks away from the bargaining table. Then what do we do? Get Scott Walker to crack down on Iranian teachers and bus drivers? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 4 00:12:30 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 4 00:07:46 2015. Other than suggesting that we get tough at the bargaining table and if necessary let iran walk away from the table, you are correct.Yeah that's what I mean. We know that already. He spoke on a highly rhetorical plane and like I said, it was a good campaign speech. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 4 00:15:20 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 00:09:23 2015. If you heard the speech then why are you asking questions salaam is smart enough not to have to ask? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 4 00:16:52 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 4 00:12:30 2015. And where did I claim that he made any new suggestions? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 00:18:17 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 4 00:15:20 2015. He said no deal is better than a bad deal.Perhaps he's right. So what does he want us to do after there is no deal other than continuing and expanding the crippling sanctions that obviously would not have deterred Iran from accepting a "good" deal. He didn't suggest anything. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 4 00:21:02 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 00:18:17 2015. So why the fuck are you wasting my time with stupid questions if you already know the answer? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 4 00:22:53 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 4 00:16:52 2015. You didn't claim that and I'm not arguing with you. He didn't make any new suggestions. He made a speech that doesn't mean anything to us but he can go back home and say "see I told them".your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 00:43:17 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Mar 4 00:21:02 2015. You are the one applauding him for offering nothing. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 00:43:57 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 4 00:22:53 2015. Must be election time in Israel. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 4 00:54:26 2015, in response to Re: Netanyahu's Speech, posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 00:43:57 2015. Yes and he was schooling Obama on how to get reelected.Your pal, Fred |
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