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Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 22:22:23 2015

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link

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 22:31:59 2015, in response to Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 22:22:23 2015.

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Cowspiracy is more credible than this.

Where do I even start.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 22:34:59 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 22:31:59 2015.

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The link is "NewsMax".

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 1 23:04:07 2015, in response to Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 22:22:23 2015.

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Iran is a Russian client state. Obama abhors Russia and its client states with a passion, and is actually trying to flip Iran now, but was not then. Desiring to shoot down anyone trying to attack a Russian client state is counterproductive to Obama's desires. That is why I see that claim as false.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 23:15:35 2015, in response to Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 22:22:23 2015.

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Based on this, LOL:

Kuwaiti paper claims unnamed Israeli minister with good ties with the US administration 'revealed the attack plan to John Kerry.'

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 01:22:05 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 23:15:35 2015.

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yeah I know lol.

I almost stopped right there but what the hell.

A link just below it then gives us this

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 01:43:30 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 01:22:05 2015.

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Didn't even need to look any further than the original page. "NewsMax" links right there, and other obvious signs that it's just another NewsMax click bait site, the blue light on the porch for conservatards.

Run an antivirus, guys. That's how NewsMax gets paid.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 07:20:29 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 01:43:30 2015.

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Like thats only uniquie to conservative we sites.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 08:24:21 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 22:31:59 2015.

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Still the headline at Drudge at 0820 today. SMH.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 2 09:03:49 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 08:24:21 2015.

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Yes it is. So what?

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 2 09:05:34 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 23:15:35 2015.

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If it's true, do you agree with it?

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 2 09:05:47 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 22:34:59 2015.

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If it's true, do you agree with it?

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 09:09:25 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 2 09:03:49 2015.

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It's been debunked but still being shown as news. That's what

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 09:09:58 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 2 09:05:47 2015.

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If they were French

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 2 09:12:01 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 09:09:25 2015.

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OK 1. it's been debunked. Where? 2. Again, If it were to be true, do you agree with it?

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 2 09:12:49 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 09:09:58 2015.

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No one is French over there.

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Re: Obama (?) threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 2 09:46:42 2015, in response to Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 22:22:23 2015.

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I doubt it but stranger things have happened.

If you make the headline "Brzezinski Wanted Obama to shoot down Israeli planes" I find it much more feasible.

The mechanism? Iraqi forces would "accidentally" shoot down some Israeli aircraft, "mistaking" them for Iranian planes. But Israel would get the message.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 2 10:17:38 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 09:09:25 2015.

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It's been debunked

No it hasn't. Denial is not debunking.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 2 10:19:44 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 2 09:12:01 2015.

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No debunking. All we got was a denial from the WH.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 15:37:24 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 2 09:05:47 2015.

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Let's just say that I don't. I would want to hear it from a credible source, and anything NewsMax is not.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 15:49:58 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 07:20:29 2015.

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Never said that. Only indicated that that's one of those that do have a problem with not vetting their advertisers. As to the preponderence of right-leaning sites that carry malvertising, might have something to do with the reality that many left-leaning blogs don't have any advertising slots and when there aren't any, there's no infection vector to take advantage of. Besides. The Russkies prefer the conservative audience as they're not technically savvy enough to realize that they DON'T need a special "codec update to view this video." :)

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 15:51:43 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 08:24:21 2015.

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Drudge. Lulz.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 16:10:10 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 2 09:05:34 2015.

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Israel has the sovereign right to do whatever it feels it needs to do to protect its national security without asking for anybody's permission, as long as they are also willing to ALONE pay the consequences of any such actions.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 3 12:23:25 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 16:10:10 2015.

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" as long as they are also willing to ALONE pay the consequences of any such actions."

Did such a caveat exist in the Balkan War where Europe went boldly in without asking our "permission" (and assured us they could handle it without our help) and then we had to enter it when they couldn't?

I'd like to know which other of our allies has ever been told to "toe the line" or else.



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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 3 13:44:01 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 3 12:23:25 2015.

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The Bosnian conflict of the 90s was a NATO operation no?
The previous conflicts in Slovenia and Croatia were not. Those conflicts were intra Yugoslavian.

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 3 15:33:23 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 3 13:44:01 2015.

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It became a NATO operation (translation: mostly American power) only after the Europeans got themselves into a third 20th Century war.

Look at "NATO" casualties in Afghanistan that almost always turn out to be American when the nationalities are later revealed.

How many "coalition" troops are assigned to protect Israel when it's attacked?

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 3 16:37:55 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 3 12:23:25 2015.

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The situation in Bosnia in 1992 was comparable to that of Israel in 1948, not in 2015.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 3 17:38:45 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 3 15:33:23 2015.

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No it was a NATO operation from the onset of any Euro involvement

How many "coalition" troops are assigned to protect Israel when it's attacked?

It would be the first time a nuclear power needed a coalition of armies to protect it.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 4 14:16:55 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 3 17:38:45 2015.

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When it's attacked, Israel fights conventionally. Other nations know the nuclear capability is there but obviously it's not a deterrent.

Are you suggesting they should use their nuclear power because this is an excuse for its allies failing to provide their blood as they've done for others?

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 4 14:18:29 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 3 16:37:55 2015.

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Oh, so America used military power to help Israel in 1948, then?

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 4 14:37:28 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 4 14:16:55 2015.

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No I'm saying Israel is a nuclear power and Bosnia is not so your comparison is apples to oranges*

And the first part of my post disproves your other claim about the Bosnian war.

:D

your pal,
Fred

*I know..."Are you saying Israel is oranges because you prefer apples?"

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 4 15:00:58 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 4 14:37:28 2015.

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Is not.

Besides, when talking about the Mideast situation, it's "olives to oranges." In that part of the world even fruits have politics.

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 4 15:25:29 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 4 15:00:58 2015.

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Olives to dates lol

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Mar 4 20:45:06 2015, in response to Re: Obama threatened to shoot down IAF planes, posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 4 14:18:29 2015.

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Bosnia didn't have the capability to defend herself..

In 1948-49 Israel stomped those savages into the ground on her own within a few months.

That's a good thing.

They've had nukes for decades. If they want to attack Iran, they should do so.

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