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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 1 17:08:19 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 1 17:03:12 2015.

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If Israel didn't keep on building settlements on the West Bank, Democratic support for Israel would be overwhelming. It's the antidemocratic tone of the settlements that is the sand in the gears.



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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:09:35 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 16:51:05 2015.

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Anyone who advocates giving away Israeli land, does not have Israel's best interest at heart.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:11:59 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 16:52:00 2015.

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For a Jew to choose between obama and Israel? That's a no brainer.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 1 17:13:15 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 1 17:08:19 2015.

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Land for peace? Yeah, that has worked out well in the past. Where were the settlements being built before June of 67?

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:14:19 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 16:59:38 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Fine, let's give Israeli land to it's enemies, so they will like us.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 1 17:15:32 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:06:18 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I fail to see the logic. Can you explain what you are referring to?

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:15:54 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:11:59 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
For an AMERICAN Jew to choose between country and Israel? Try again...

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:16:11 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:14:19 2015.

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That's not what I'm saying. Try again...

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:19:13 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 1 17:08:19 2015.

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Judea and Samaria, or what you call the west bank is part of Israel, and Israel and the Jews have every right to settle and build on their own land.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:22:40 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:15:54 2015.

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You said choosing between obama and Isreal. Don not put words in my mouth.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:24:28 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:16:11 2015.

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That's exactley what a so-called 2 state solution is.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:28:27 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 1 17:15:32 2015.

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Why don't you try answering one of my questions for a change.

There is a grand total of one Jewish Republican in all of Congress. There are 10 Democratic senators, 18 Democratic representatives, and one independent senator. The only people I see on both the list of Jewish Congresspeople and people not attending Netanyahu's speech is Bernie Sanders and Jan Schakowsky. I'm not so bothered by the fact someone like Kieth Ellison isn't attending the speech.

If you and some other people here got your heads out from under the sand, you'd realize Netanyahu's stunt here is problematic for American Jews across the political spectrum, Jewish groups as diverse as AIPAC and J Street, and Israel's own interests. You all should try answering my questions directly instead of just returning with questions lacking substance in response to my points.


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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:31:40 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:22:40 2015.

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I used Obama as a stand in for the United States as a whole, he is the president of the country and head of state whether you like it or not.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:31:58 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:24:28 2015.

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No, it is not. Do some reading and then get back to us.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:33:22 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:28:27 2015.

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Bernie Sanders and Jan Schakowsky are both self hating Jews. Keith Ellison is a racist muslim shvartza.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:35:00 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:31:40 2015.

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I don't like it, and neither should you.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 1 17:36:26 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:28:27 2015.

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I don't see this as a Netenyahu stunt. Call it aBohner stunt if that pleases you but I see it as I said previously. Congress does not trust Obama's stated position on Iran's nuclear ambitions. I think they are hoping toget the truth from Netenyahu.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:36:37 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:35:00 2015.

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He's still the president and head of state. Whether you like him or his policies, he still deserves the respect that the office of the president of the United States affords him. I always said that if I were ever to meet George W. Bush, I would treat him with the utmost respect because of the office he held, even though I agreed with practically none of this policies or his politics.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:37:37 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:31:58 2015.

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You advocate giving Israeli land to their enemies.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 17:38:47 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:33:22 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Anyone who uses the term shvartza is a racist.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:40:42 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 17:36:37 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Here was a head of state, would you treat him with respect?

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 1 17:43:18 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 17:38:47 2015.

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Ditto, "cracker".

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:49:39 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 17:38:47 2015.

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Shvartza means black.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 18:01:01 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:49:39 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
און דיין פונט איז?

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 18:01:41 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:40:42 2015.

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Stop posing rhetorical questions and answer mine.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 18:01:59 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:37:37 2015.

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You're clueless.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 18:04:03 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:49:39 2015.

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I know exactly what it means.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 18:04:06 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 1 17:36:26 2015.

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There are lots of Israelis who see this as a election campaign stunt that is serving to drive a wedge in an ally that Israel needs in order to survive. Despite trying to suggest otherwise at times, Israel can't go at it in this world alone. While it is true that Congress doesn't trust Obama's stated position on Iran, there are lots of people in Congress who also don't like another country's leader working behind the president's back to get a speaking engagement.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 1 18:08:10 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 18:04:06 2015.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 18:12:19 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 17:40:42 2015.

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unlike Bush, at least that guy was elected.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 18:41:41 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 18:01:01 2015.

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Speak English

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 18:43:04 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 18:01:41 2015.

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Ok, give me all the questions in outline form.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 18:43:41 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 18:12:19 2015.

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Like hell Bush wasn't elected.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 18:44:23 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 18:01:59 2015.

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You're as self hating Jew.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 18:52:50 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 18:43:41 2015.

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Well, he was sort of elected. He won 5 to 4 over Gore.



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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 19:01:37 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 18:41:41 2015.

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He said: "And your point is?"

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 19:38:31 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 18:52:50 2015.

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Ever hear of the electoral college?

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 19:39:04 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 19:01:37 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Drop dead.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 19:55:33 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 18:41:41 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Last time I checked, "Shvartza" is not an English word.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 19:56:05 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 19:38:31 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Do you deny that the electoral college elected Obama?

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 19:56:19 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 19:55:33 2015.

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Is it even a Hebrew word?

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 19:58:19 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 19:56:19 2015.

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No, it is Yiddish.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 20:11:46 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 19:56:05 2015.

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Did he get elected in 2000?

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 20:19:31 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 20:11:46 2015.

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By Conservative justices legislating from the bench and denying state's rights to Florida.



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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 1 20:32:53 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 20:19:31 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Al Gore was a sore lose, and I voted for him. Explain how after every recount, Bush received more votes.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 1 20:33:50 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 19:58:19 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Like you've never used that word.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 1 20:34:30 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 18:41:41 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Since when did you not like Israel that you object to using their language?

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 1 20:34:36 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 19:55:33 2015.

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So what?

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 1 20:35:51 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 1 20:34:30 2015.

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I do not speak Hebrew.

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Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 1 20:36:09 2015, in response to Re: Obama sends anti-Israel Susan Rice and Samantha Power to address AIPAC, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 1 19:58:19 2015.

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Like you've never used that word.

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