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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jan 28 07:38:49 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 03:03:54 2015.

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That's not what I meant. Remind me to respond again. Time to get the mfing snakes off this mfing train.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jan 28 07:38:49 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 03:03:54 2015.

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That's not what I meant. Remind me to respond again. Time to get the mfing snakes off this mfing train.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 28 08:32:45 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 03:03:54 2015.

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True, if nobody is going there anyway, then I guess you were just have some kind of symbolism been blowing up a building like that.
No, I meant that the buildings would be blow up after hours or whatever. So people do usually go there, but each time they blow one up, it's during times when no one is there. So people wouldn't become scared to go to one because they'd know that the bombings only happen when no one is there. THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 28 08:54:26 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:47:56 2015.

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Excellent news. Congrats

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 09:06:02 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 28 08:32:45 2015.

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Ok well I'm going to switch from HYPOTHETICAL to HYPOTENUSE and get some work done :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 09:34:33 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 28 03:40:39 2015.

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Jorge Mario Bergoglio

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jan 28 09:53:35 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 19:05:04 2015.

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If there were two huge 110 story abortion clinics, you can bet that they would try to take them down.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jan 28 09:56:18 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 18:40:43 2015.

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Because al Qaeda is better at terrorism than Eric Rudolph was.

The abortion clinic bombers are at the level of the Tsarnaev brothers.

If they were able to kill and destroy more, they would.



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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jan 28 09:58:59 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 19:05:04 2015.

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8 people in since 1973

I guess you missed the 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, 3 kidnappings, 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, and 619 bomb threats.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jan 28 10:19:40 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:47:56 2015.

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CONGRATULATIONS to you and the Missus!!

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 28 10:29:04 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jan 28 09:58:59 2015.

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Thank goodness domestic terrorists tend to be relatively incompetent, with the exception of Timothy Mcveigh.


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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 10:39:41 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jan 28 03:04:33 2015.

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Technically, it would be a DE30AC...


REEF!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 28 12:56:20 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jan 28 09:53:35 2015.

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Oh, so now we are going on hypothetical BS?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 28 12:57:49 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jan 28 09:56:18 2015.

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Because al Qaeda is better at terrorism than Eric Rudolph was.

The abortion clinic bombers are at the level of the Tsarnaev brothers.


Because "Eric Rudolph" and Tsarnaev were random psychos, not organized RELIGIOUS ISLAMIC terrorist organization.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 28 13:00:35 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 28 10:29:04 2015.

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The topic is religion. Tim McVeigh was an Organized religious organization?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 28 13:05:17 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 09:06:02 2015.

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How come you didn't criticize SMAZ for his "hypothetical BS"?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 28 13:13:48 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 28 13:00:35 2015.

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I am also grateful that with one exception the non-religious domestic terrorists have not been very capable.



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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 28 13:27:42 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 28 13:13:48 2015.

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That's great, and so am I, but they have absolutely nothing to do with this conversation on religious "dangers". Trying to lessen the sting of the ISLAMIC terrorists by throwing in unrelated non religious, domestic terrorists?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 28 13:41:04 2015, in response to 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 26 20:25:02 2015.

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Some other things religion has unleashed onto the world:

- The Renaissance
- The Industrial Revolution
- Organized charity
- Science

Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 28 13:44:36 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 28 13:00:35 2015.

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McVeigh was a political terrorist, in no way religious.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 28 13:46:03 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 28 12:57:49 2015.

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And there's the difference between Islamic and other religious terrorism. Only in Islam do you see any authority figures either praising or excusing acts of terror.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 28 13:48:05 2015, in response to 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 26 20:25:02 2015.

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The author misunderstands what the term "chosen people" means.

It does NOT mean "favorite people". It means people chosen to perform a special duty to the world. Jews were "chosen" to be a light unto the nations - and were told that if they fulfilled that obligation, they would dwell in safety in the Holy Land, but when they did not, they would get kicked out.

History has shown that the Jews got kicked out twice.

As for other people living there, Jews believe that since God created the world, God is entitled to apportion land as God sees fit.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 28 13:53:02 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 28 13:41:04 2015.

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Industrial revolution???

Science? Like the Catholic Church sponsoring Galileo's and Copernicus's research? Or do you mean Zeus giving his personal imprimatur to Archimedes' and Plato's work?





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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 28 13:56:09 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 28 13:27:42 2015.

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Trying to lessen the sting of the ISLAMIC terrorists by throwing in unrelated non religious, domestic terrorists?

???

My comment was specifically that foregin terorists, who do tend toward Islamic, are more effective than domestic. How am I lessening the sting? I'm saying the ONLY effective domestic terorist was McVeigh.

So if you're trying to make the point that Islamic terrorists are particularly effective comapred to Christian ones, I'm actually reinforcing your point.

(Not that I was particularly thinking any of those things, but if I was, I'd be supporting your points.)



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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 28 13:59:11 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 28 13:46:03 2015.

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Predominantly in Islam.

For exceptions, see Uganda, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, certain Indian states, Central African Republic, Russia, and Serbia.


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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 28 14:10:50 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 28 13:48:05 2015.

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That is when I stopped reading. Too bad (or good) that the "chosen people" canard was the author's first point. I could see what the rest of the "article" had in store.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jan 28 20:21:46 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 28 10:29:04 2015.

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Thank goodness domestic terrorists tend to be relatively incompetent, with the exception of Timothy Mcveigh.

And their targets tend to hold fewer people and not be as convenient to hit by airplane.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 29 06:25:38 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jan 28 20:21:46 2015.

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Lol!!! Anorhwrone proposing the hypothetical

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 29 07:58:50 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 29 06:25:38 2015.

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Another one proposing the hypothetical.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 29 09:21:37 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 29 07:58:50 2015.

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What hypothetical? Do you deny the terrorist attacks in Oklahoma City and Atlanta?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 29 09:28:12 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 29 09:21:37 2015.

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Uhm no, but they weren't religiously motivated, nor done by organized religious organization groups.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 29 09:30:21 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 29 09:28:12 2015.

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The Atlanta bombings were carried out by Eric "Army of God" Rudolph.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 29 09:32:41 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 28 13:41:04 2015.

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Some other things religion has unleashed onto the world:

- The Industrial Revolution
- Science


You've got to be kidding.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 29 09:34:47 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 29 09:30:21 2015.

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What religious organization was he connected to? Or was it a random nut?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 29 09:57:41 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 28 13:41:04 2015.

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In addition to those who complain about your inclusion of the Industrial Revolution and science, I'll add the following:

The Renaissance and organized charity are overrated.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 29 13:31:05 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 29 09:34:47 2015.

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You don't know who that is?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 29 13:49:17 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 29 13:31:05 2015.

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I asked a rhetorical question. He was a lone nut, He attempted to portray these acts as being done by religious organization such as the ISLAMIC ones that are doing the terrorism today.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 29 21:36:06 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 29 13:49:17 2015.

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He was not a lone nut. How do you think he stayed out on the lam for so long? He had supporters.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 29 21:49:08 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 29 13:31:05 2015.

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does not come close to offsetting Islamic activity.



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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jan 30 09:54:21 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 29 09:34:47 2015.

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What religious organization was he connected to?

Christian Identity/AOG.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World?

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Jan 30 10:43:48 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World?, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jan 27 14:43:34 2015.

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76st,BLASPHERMER,THOU SHALL BURN IN HELL!p.s.i,ll be there to light the match,gladly.

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