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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 27 19:21:17 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:18:35 2015. +十 |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:21:26 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:09:34 2015. This wouldn't be coercion or intimidation. It would simply be to destroy the tools of the devil or whatever used to perform abortions. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 19:22:37 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:09:34 2015. Yes....exactly the same....as a building vacant and a building know to have 3000+ people in it and a "bomb" with 250+ on it. |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:22:49 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 27 19:04:36 2015. Thinking it's empty and making damn well sure it's empty are two different things. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:23:29 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 19:19:30 2015. 8 people in since 1973!!!!! Can count them on two hands.so you didn't say this? How is an attack on an embassy comparable to attacks on abortion clinics in the US. They're both terrorism, that's the point. You guys are using casualties as game marker pieces. Yes it's more severe when 200 people are killed in an act of terrorism than if 4 are killed but they're both acts of terrorism. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:24:05 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 19:19:45 2015. Newer model, yeah :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:29:35 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:18:35 2015. You have to believe in God for your argument to stick tho.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:31:25 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:24:05 2015. didn't think of it that way, good call. though with that thinking I'd have to go with SD90MAC or SD70ACe. |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:32:50 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 19:19:45 2015. I was thinking smaller, not newer. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:33:09 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:20:30 2015. Well if they kicked everybody out of the building wouldn't somebody just call the cops and stop them? :PAfter hours, occupied or not it's still terrorism as it's an attempt at violent coercion. Back in the 30's when black churches in the south were burned, it was indeed terrorism. The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives" (28 C.F.R. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 27 19:43:25 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:47:56 2015. Great news, Chris. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jan 27 19:44:43 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World?, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jan 27 14:43:34 2015. Ya know, like 76th Street!There is no station or station remnant that goes by that name, BTW. :-) |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jan 27 19:46:06 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 18:41:27 2015. But it would hardly be terrorism if they came over and got everyone out of the building and then blew it up. It'd be bad, but it wouldn't be terrorism.Whether it would be or not, I don't think it has ever happened. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:56:42 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:31:25 2015. Oh hai, MUCH newer model.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:00:57 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World?, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jan 27 19:44:43 2015.  your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:08:37 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 19:22:37 2015. Stop using casualties as game marker pieces in your argument. It sounds like you're saying it's not terrorism unless X amount of people get killed. Well it is terrorism, and undeniably so. If somebody burned your house down you'd be terrorized. You'd be pissed off too lol.The larger point is that it's the same fanaticism driving said terrorism as described in the OP. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:14:02 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:08:37 2015. there are a lot of markers.number of casualties. intended number of casualties. number of incidents. co-conspirators. level of mainstream support. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:14:38 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:21:26 2015. I get that line of thought but isn't that what the radical Islamists justify with? Not the abortion part but more the "tools of the devil part". I think the bombings were to scare people from going to abortion clinics.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:15:39 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:21:26 2015. stop posting on OTCHAT.you are making too many posts. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:15:45 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:14:02 2015. You forgot "Muslim".your pal, Fred |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 27 20:16:02 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:33:09 2015. You are absolutely right, Fred. |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Jan 27 20:22:57 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by SLRT on Tue Jan 27 13:50:12 2015. So then saying Nazis are responsible for the Holocaust is bullshit bait? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:24:02 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:15:45 2015. no need for redundancy. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:27:16 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:24:02 2015. What redundancy? It's the ONLY marker that matters. There is no other terrorism than Muslim.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:30:24 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:27:16 2015. that is mostly true. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:32:36 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:30:24 2015. There's a former building in OKC that says otherwise.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:44:00 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:32:36 2015. That's terrorism. Domestic terrorism. And not done in the name of God or to get closer to God. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:48:53 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:32:36 2015. and i said "mostly".again i w1n/ |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:54:56 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:44:00 2015. It's fanatacism just the same. Hatred of government taken to an extreme.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:55:46 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:48:53 2015. You're always going to say you w1n. We all laugh and go on with our posts.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:58:21 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:54:56 2015. Hatred of government is extremism for sure.But when it's to get closer to God, like Islam is doing far more than any religion on Earth right now, it's scarier. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 21:04:41 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:58:21 2015. The God thing is worse because it suggests infallibility, so I agree.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 21:05:09 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 21:04:41 2015. so we both w1n/ |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 21:06:00 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 21:05:09 2015. No I let you winLOL your pal, Fred |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 21:27:06 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:29:35 2015. Yep. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 27 21:35:26 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:15:39 2015. Dear Mr. Moderator: There are too many posts nowadays. Please reef three. I am not a crackpot. |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 21:37:13 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jan 27 19:46:06 2015. I'm speaking hypothetically. |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 21:40:56 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:55:46 2015. IAWTP |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 21:41:09 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 21:06:00 2015. HAHA iawtp |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 21:43:26 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 20:14:38 2015. I think the bombings were to scare people from going to abortion clinics.If that was their intent then fine. But in my hypothetical situation, the building was always empty, so that can't be used to scare people into not going. |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 21:44:18 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 20:15:39 2015. I'll think about it. |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 21:50:47 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:33:09 2015. Well if they kicked everybody out of the building wouldn't somebody just call the cops and stop them?They'd have to do it really fast. After hours, occupied or not it's still terrorism as it's an attempt at violent coercion. Back in the 30's when black churches in the south were burned, it was indeed terrorism.That's different. The churches weren't burned to prevent blacks from praying. That would be silly. They could pray anywhere. The churches were burned because they hated blacks and wanted them to be scared and leave. In my hypothetical situation, the bad guys don't hate anyone specifically and don't want to scare anyone into leaving town - they just want to halt abortions from being performed because they hate abortions. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 28 00:37:40 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 18:15:15 2015. Aside from Islam, which religion condones stoning people? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 28 00:59:49 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:18:35 2015. So, therefore, because your deity (as opposed to the deities of other religions) has decreed this horrible punishment as right and proper, everyone else has no say in the matter? Yes, I am saying that theocratic law is inapplicable and inappropriate in modern-day society. No one should be stoned to death (or otherwise executed) in the name of religion, period. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 02:27:39 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 28 00:37:40 2015. JudaismYour pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 03:03:54 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 21:43:26 2015. True, if nobody is going there anyway, then I guess you were just have some kind of symbolism been blowing up a building like that.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Jan 28 03:04:33 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:47:56 2015. Although I don't know if it's a GP38ette or a GP38 yet.....Technically, it would be a DE30AC, but, um, I wouldn't want to name your kid after that unreliable garbage. :-) Congrats :-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 28 03:40:39 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:47:56 2015. Just spotted this, congrats, bro! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 28 06:27:16 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 28 00:37:40 2015. Rastafarianism.OH, you said stonING people. My bad. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jan 28 07:28:52 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 28 00:59:49 2015. So it was ok back then but now it's not????? What kind of a god would make a law that gets outdated??? If He's an all knowing and all powerful god, then he wouldn't make such a stupid mistake. THINK NATHAN!!! |
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