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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Dec 22 06:53:32 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 21 23:19:23 2014. Yeah, not at all. I'd take dinkins any day over Deblasio. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 08:31:26 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Dec 22 06:47:02 2014. God forbid a conservative should defend his poorly thought out arguments. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Dec 22 09:31:10 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 02:15:19 2014. Text corrected.Nope. Actual forensic science confirms Brown was shot from about 400 yards away, with no sign of a struggle. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 22 09:48:23 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Dec 22 09:31:10 2014. ???Sorry, not getting the humor, if any. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 10:05:47 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Dec 22 02:26:13 2014. The forensics back up Wilson's account of the incident. The account defies your logicbecause it doesn't support a scenario that supports your racial biases. Sorry but it is what it is. Michael brown was a thug and a criminal who actively brought about his own demise. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 10:05:51 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Dec 22 02:26:13 2014. The forensics back up Wilson's account of the incident. The account defies your logicbecause it doesn't support a scenario that supports your racial biases. Sorry but it is what it is. Michael brown was a thug and a criminal who actively brought about his own demise. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 10:08:52 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 08:31:26 2014. It's not poorly thought out at all. Deblasio should NEVER had said anything like that. It sends a bad message, a dangerous one at that. There's a reason the NYPD turned to the wall as he walked through the hall in Woodhull. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 10:10:52 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 04:47:32 2014. It's not peaceful at all. it's akin to yelling "fire" in a movie theater. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 10:14:45 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 21 21:04:07 2014. I got the talk from my father. I was told not to confront police oranyone who carried a gun. Thats not what happened, though in the case of DeLousio. He didn't tell his son. He told every citizen of NY that his "biracial son" has reason to fear police. Sorry if in your mind, that's the same thing as a father/son discussion. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Dec 22 10:39:00 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 22 09:48:23 2014. No humor. Cynicism yes, but humor, no. The New York Times stated the blood was found, at the furthest point, approximately 178' from Wilson's vehicle, the body 25' closer, which might be construed that Brown was moving towards Wilson after initially being shot. It seems logical that one might infer that 178' was the approximate maximum distance from which the shots were initially fired I have not read the report at length so maybe the Nilet, who has never lost a thread on any topic at any time, can enlighten me. I am rarely wrong but I am wrong a lot. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Dec 22 10:40:52 2014, in response to Re: RIP Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 00:07:04 2014. Are you my spokesman? Is your handle ChicagoMotorman? I can speak for myself. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Dec 22 10:42:41 2014, in response to Re: RIP Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 22 00:06:04 2014. I would certainly hope not. But I was wondering from your lack of respect toward police officers found in your posts. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 11:11:00 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 10:14:45 2014. Thank you. It's yet another rationalization the left is good for. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 11:13:18 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 21 21:15:10 2014. So you think it's right that the leader of the Ccity of New York should tell the City of NY (and the country), that his "son should be afraid of the cops" and his NYPD. Yeah, that's very "right wing" to think it's inappropriate (rolls eyes). |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 22 11:58:36 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 14:09:35 2014. "Its really bad. He's even worse than it was thought he would be..."And we're stuck with him. As far as I know, there's no provision for a recall motion against a sitting mayor in the City Charter. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 12:20:19 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 11:11:00 2014. I don't recall you posting in outrage last summer when extreme-rightist terror couple Jerad and Amanda Miller, who marched into a crowded pizzeria, shot two Las Vegas cops to death, and, among other things, left a swastika behind, and a note declaring that the "revolution is beginning".Oh, I forgot, that's somehow different... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:23:00 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 10:08:52 2014. It sends a dangerous message to tell his son to respect the police and not to screw around with them? I thought you people were all for obeying the police? What the fuck is wrong with that? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:23:25 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 10:10:52 2014. It absolutely is not. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:24:07 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 12:20:19 2014. Those people weren't "thugs." |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 22 12:27:30 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Dec 22 09:31:10 2014. iawtpwith his hands up |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:32:26 2014, in response to Re: RIP Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Dec 22 10:40:52 2014. Yes, and you do. Which is why I know what you believe, because you speak for yourself. Speaking expresses one's thoughts. Strange how that works. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:34:41 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 11:13:18 2014. Yes. It is right for the chief executive (Americans not in the armed forces do not have a human leader) of the City of New York to tell his son that he should be afraid of the awesome power of an armed police officer. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:35:05 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 22 11:58:36 2014. Nope. But it's amazing that one would actually long back for even Dinkins instead of this nightmare. He's the worst mayor in my time. Prior to Koch we had some winners too, but that's long ago. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:35:31 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:35:05 2014. I mean DeBlasio, not Dinkins |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:36:31 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 14:09:35 2014. Its really bad. He's even worse than it was thought he would be.Thought by whom? "Centrists" like you? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 12:37:42 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:35:05 2014. David Dinkins is the mayor who crafted the "safe Streets, Safe City" program, which added six thousand cops to the NYPD, modernized the force, and drove the crime rate sharply down. His successor, Rudy Giuliani, takes all the credit for this, but it was Mayor Dinkins' program from the start.Oh, wait, Dinkins was a "liberal"...I forgot... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:37:51 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 12:20:19 2014. ???????Never seen that story before, but don't see how it's different at all. A thug piece of garbage is a thug piece of garbage, so how are those pieces of trash different? I don't get your point. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:38:58 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:24:07 2014. ????They aren't? Then what would you call those pieces of garbage? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:39:37 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:23:25 2014. No it's the same thing. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:40:58 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:36:31 2014. Koch was good.Dinkins was okay. Guiliani was great. Bloomberg was good. DeBlasio falls in with some of the "winners" we had prior to Koch. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:42:22 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 12:37:42 2014. ?????I said Dinkins was fine. DeBlasio makes Dinkins look even better than many give him credit for as DeBlasio is a horror. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 12:43:56 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:37:51 2014. It was posted right here on OTC. But, of course, you somehow overlooked this major, national story, because it doesn't fit your narrative of your version of 'thugs' shooting cops. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:46:57 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:40:58 2014. You didn't answer my question. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:49:51 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 12:43:56 2014. What the fuck man? Seriously? I miss a less than 10 response thread, and I "ignored it because they aren't fitted version of thugs"? You are kidding right.Those people are human vermin, just as any of the other thugs we are talking about. Please dont project YOUR OWN biases on other people, as those people are just as much thugs as any others I have seen. Pure trash. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:50:49 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 12:46:57 2014. The police absolutely have no affection for Deblasio at all, for exactly the reasons I stated. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 12:53:47 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:50:49 2014. I think the police are way out of line for telling DeBlasio how to parent his child. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 12:55:09 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 12:37:42 2014. Mens Room Attendant in Chief |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 13:00:46 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 12:39:37 2014. Do you sincerely believe that the shouting is inciting imminent lawless action and that it is likely to do so? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 22 13:02:31 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 12:55:09 2014. That's below your usual level.Cum Laude from Howard University. Law degree from Brooklyn College, before any possible help from affirmative action. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 13:04:22 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 22 13:02:31 2014. Howard university ? Isn't that Tawana Brawleys alma mater? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 22 13:07:06 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 13:04:22 2014. zzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 13:28:54 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 12:53:47 2014. But that's not what he did. He made a public statement. That isn't "parenting his child". |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 13:30:47 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 10:10:52 2014. Not only is that not true but it's protected free-speech.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 13:30:56 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 13:00:46 2014. Yes. Riling up people to "kill the cops" is absolutely inciting imminent lawless action, such as murdering cops.No different than yelling fire in a busy movie theater causing a stampede. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 13:32:04 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 13:28:54 2014. Yes, he said that he told his son to exercise care in dealing with the police, which is good advice for ANY teen. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 13:35:27 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 13:30:47 2014. Of course it's protected free speech. Who said otherwise? That doesn't mean that "protected free speech" isn't necessarily responsible, and can incite lawlessness, or actually doing what is chanted. For you to believe otherwise is just defending the lawless, irresponsible behavior (yes, behavior, not behaviour) of the people reciting that. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 13:36:17 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 13:32:04 2014. Again, you are trying to mix up "parenting" with a PUBLIC statement by a PUBLIC official. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 22 13:44:58 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 13:36:17 2014. OK, which sentences in this should he not have said, and why?This is profoundly personal to me. I was at the White House the other day, and the president of the United States turned to me, and he met Dante a few months ago, and he said that Dante reminded him of what he looked like as a teenager. And he said I know you see this crisis through a very personal lens. And I said to him, I did. Because Chirlane and I have had to talk to Dante for years about the dangers that he may face. A good young man, law-abiding young man who would never think to do anything wrong. And yet, because of a history that still hangs over us, the dangers he may face, we've had to literally train him—as families have all over this city for decades—in how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers who are there to protect him. And that painful sense of contradiction that our young people see first, that our police are here to protect us, and we honor that, and at the same time, there's a history we have to overcome, because for so many of our young people, there's a fear. And for so many of our families, there's a fear. So I've had to worry over the years. Chirlane's had to worry. Is Dante safe each night? There are so many families in this city who feel that each and every night. Is my child safe? And not just from some of the painful realities—crime and violence in some of our neighborhoods—but is safe from the very people they want to have faith in as their protectors. That's the reality. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 13:45:29 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 13:30:56 2014. The comparison is absurd and defies logicYour pal, Fred |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 13:45:37 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 13:36:17 2014. DeBlasio made a public statement about the way he is raising his son, which he has every right to do. There was nothing inflammatory about his remarks. |
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