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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 08:51:38 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 08:39:04 2014.

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I didn't ask you what you wouldn't do. I asked you what you WOULD do.... I know, I know... You lack reading comprehention skills.. SO.... I'll give you ANOTHER chance to redeem yourself. So now answer the question correctly this time.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 08:56:04 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 08:46:59 2014.

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Uhm.... I happen to be in the genious percentile of 3 different IQ tests

HA!

...someone who is physically and intellectually superior to you in EVERY way.

LOL!

... you erroniously feel that you are "safe" to do so because you're on the computer or cell phone...

I feel "safe" to do so because you're obviously a young child or a senile elderly man and, above all, a coward.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:01:57 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 08:56:04 2014.

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IF you look I corrected it as the "O" and "I" keys were struck at the same time. I should have proof-read but I didn't.

You are SO wrong as to what you envision me as being... You would shit your pants if we ever met. No. Actually you would be screaming for the police that you hate so much. THIW.....

And to think that you label people "cowards" because they agree with a GJ decision and feel that the police and others have the right to prevent themselves from harm.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:16:15 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:01:57 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You are SO wrong as to what you envision me as being... You would shit your pants if we ever met. No. Actually you would be screaming for the police that you hate so much. THIW.....



And to think that you label people "cowards" because they agree with a GJ decision and feel that the police and others have the right to prevent themselves from harm.

No, I call you a coward because you think you have a right to murder young children to "protect yourself" from black people existing.

What would you call murdering children?

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:20:34 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:16:15 2014.

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What was the purpose of you showing me a picture of yourself?

The police have EVERY RIGHT to shoot another individual with a gun who was reaching for it, whether 12 or 112. Period. End of story. And, try as you may, you keep on beating the dead horse of "black people" into this when it has nothing to do with this discussion at all....

*I* would call shooting a kid who was reaching for a gun insurance to go home that night....

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:28:10 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:20:34 2014.

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Except, of course, that Tamil Rice did not, in fact, have a gun and was not, obviously, reaching for the gun he did not have.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:33:46 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:28:10 2014.

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In fact, he DID... OMG! You should be a "professional expert" on all things police-related because it's OBVIOUS you know everything!!

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:38:08 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:33:46 2014.

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In fact, he DID... OMG!

In fact, he did not. You just made that up because you're a racist who has a compulsion to excuse every murder of a black person - even a child - committed by a cop.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:41:10 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:38:08 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Uh...Last time I checked, I wasn't in Ohio...So there is no reason to "make it up"...

The funny thing is that on ANY other forum, I would think that you're pulling my leg the whole time, but in THIS place, ya never know! The Asperger Army!

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:44:26 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:41:10 2014.

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Your physical location has nothing to do with the fact that as a white supremacist, you feel compelled to excuse racist violence wherever it takes place.

The funny thing is that on ANY other forum, I would think that you're pulling my leg the whole time, but in THIS place, ya never know! The Asperger Army!

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:46:03 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:44:26 2014.

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So now I'M a white supremist? Why thank you! That's the best thing anyone's ever said to me! I'll do my best to be a great one, I promise!

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:47:03 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:46:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
If you tried acting like a decent human for ten seconds, people might start saying things to you that aren't insults.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:48:00 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:47:03 2014.

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What insults? I'M not insulted at all!

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:48:51 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:48:00 2014.

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If you think "white supremacist" is a compliment, you're even more far gone than I thought.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:50:37 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:48:51 2014.

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Coming from YOU it is!

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:52:12 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:50:37 2014.

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You poor soul.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:53:59 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:52:12 2014.

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You're an athiest, remember? There's no such thing as a soul.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 10:10:01 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:53:59 2014.

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It's a figure of speech I nicked from one of your fellow white supremacists.

It relies on the use of "soul" is a metaphorical term for a person. But then I wouldn't expect you to know that. *condescending headpat*

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 10:45:49 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 08:09:39 2014.

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So by disagreeing with me you must think it's at least OK police work to kill a mentally ill 12 year old with a realistic toy gun.


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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Nov 27 11:17:31 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:41:10 2014.

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Why are you even arguing with an ASSHOLE troll? He's only playing with you and trying to get you mad. Just ignore Nilet. He won't go away though, as asshole trolls never do.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 27 11:18:40 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:41:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The Asperger Army!

Good one!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 27 11:31:10 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 10:45:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
These realistic toy guns are more trouble than they're worth.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 11:46:52 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 10:45:49 2014.

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Just for shit and giggles, how would you handle the situation if you were a cop?

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 11:49:03 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 27 11:31:10 2014.

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Yes. Not legal to sell in NYC.


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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 11:50:16 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 11:46:52 2014.

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Better, I hope. But I very much doubt I would have been a good cop.


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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 11:54:14 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 11:50:16 2014.

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Better? In what way? What would you have done? You have a mentally unstable person with a loaded gun. You have civilians around who are in jeopardy. You've called for back-up? What are you going to do now to protect the yourself and the people around you?

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 12:03:44 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 11:54:14 2014.

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So do you think it was good policing to kill a mentally ill 12 year old?



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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 16:18:41 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 12:03:44 2014.

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Why don't you answer a question before you start asking them?

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 16:51:14 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 16:18:41 2014.

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You seem to be maybe disagreeing with my post that bad policing occurred in Cleveland. I'm trying to understand if you really are.

Meanwhile, I've said I thought it could have been done better. That doesn't mean I know exactly how. How about pepper spray or a taser instead? I'm not knowledgable enough about the situation or police tactics to know if either was an alternative.


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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 17:04:38 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 16:51:14 2014.

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So you would walk up to a possibly unstable person with a presumably real gun and spray them with Pepper spray or try to take them down with a Taser? I don't think so. If you are not knowledgeable about police tactics, how do you call what the officer did, wrong? Perhaps if it were a knife or an axe, what you considered might work but with a gun, certainly not. Instead of blaming the police, how about blaming the parents who allowed their child to own a realistic looking gun and let him out on the streets with it. I'm sure that at the end of the day, this police officer had every intention of going home to his family and has as much right to do so as you or I do. I feel sorry for the child and equally sorry for the police officer.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 17:13:01 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 17:04:38 2014.

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All I said is I thought it was bad policing. I do feel sorry for the officer, but he may not be cut out for police work.

Do you think it was good policing? If you don't we don't actually disagree. If you do, well then we do disagree but that's OK too.





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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Nov 27 17:42:15 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 17:13:01 2014.

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how about asking,if it hasn`t been asked what the cops on this board think of this.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 17:47:50 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Nov 27 17:42:15 2014.

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I would respect Jeff's opinion but his opinion would not necessarily change mine. If he wants to tell me I'm full of it, he's welcome to.


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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Nov 27 17:54:57 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Nov 27 17:42:15 2014.

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do you know that there have been several cops shot&killed thruout the years by kids 12 years old and younger because they hesitated to fire first?

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 18:21:03 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 17:13:01 2014.

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You can say what you will but this officer had met the first 2 requirements of his job. He protected the public and he went home at the end of the day. He was placed in a horrible situation but I believe that he made a good choice. I think the parents are the true responsible parties here.

I certainly would like to hear Jeff or Tunnel Rat ( Steve) give their opinions. They have both had the training.



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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 18:23:42 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Nov 27 17:54:57 2014.

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The cousin of a family member ( also a cop) had hid throat and face slashed on an M train because he hesitated.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Nov 27 18:30:46 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Nov 27 17:54:57 2014.

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list them now

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Nov 27 18:42:37 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Nov 27 17:54:57 2014.

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what a stupid thing to ask.how the hell am I supposed to list these things? I saw training films on these many years ago when I was an active nyc cop.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Dave on Thu Nov 27 18:47:22 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Nov 27 18:30:46 2014.

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Everyone is making stuff up except you, huh? LOL!

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by Dave on Thu Nov 27 18:49:29 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 27 04:42:34 2014.

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LOL! Keep feeding your paranoia....

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Nov 27 18:50:04 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 27 04:42:34 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Nov 27 18:51:25 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Dave on Thu Nov 27 18:47:22 2014.

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you are not EVERYBODY

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 22:24:32 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 10:10:01 2014.

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You got it from my Uncle Adolf? That was nice of him.

You're beating off again?! Aren't you afraid mommy will catch you like the last time?

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 22:30:49 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 10:45:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Of COURSE I don't!! IF the police know ahead of time. If they don't know the circumstances then it IS OK to use deadly physical force against another possessing that looks like a gun and reaching for it.

But then again, who even knows if the kid was slow or not in the first place?

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 22:34:39 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Nov 27 11:17:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh I know! In fact, I STILL think that this is an act and he's just saying the most rediculous things to see how I will react. He THINKS he's playing with me but I'm smarter than that!

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 22:34:52 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 22:30:49 2014.

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Thats why hind sight, especially liberal hind sight, is always 20/20

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 22:37:09 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 22:30:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But then again, who even knows if the kid was slow or not in the first place?

You're the one who said he was not in his right mind.

What 12 year old in their right mind would not listen to the police's orders to show their hands THEN reach for a gun (real, pellet, or fake, doesn't matter)and expect NOT to get shot?



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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 22:41:59 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Nov 27 17:54:57 2014.

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I bet Steven McDonald didn't think Shavod Jones (not 12 years old, but still a minor) would whip out a pistol and shoot him 3 times....

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 22:44:09 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 18:21:03 2014.

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And there's more people on here that also are but would never admit to it because then the resident "experts" would ALWAYS view their facts as skewered and prejudiced because, you know, the police hate everybody, especially blacks.

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Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 22:47:51 2014, in response to Re: Black Kid Murdered By Cop, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 27 17:13:01 2014.

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AIM, the cop did EVERYTHING right. Once the kid reached for the gun, he had no other choice but to protect his, his partners, and the public's life by utilizing his firearm. Using a tazer or pepperspray against a percieved gun is a sure way to get killed in the line of duty.

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