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Posted by DANd124 on Fri Nov 21 21:51:37 2014 http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2013/10/did-modern-jews-originate-italy |
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Posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 21:58:59 2014, in response to Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by DANd124 on Fri Nov 21 21:51:37 2014. so that explains the noses! |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Nov 21 22:11:47 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 21:58:59 2014. Could you be anymore offensive? |
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Posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 22:14:08 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Nov 21 22:11:47 2014. sadly, I can't take full credit for it. thank seth macfarlane. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 22:14:14 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Nov 21 22:11:47 2014. He has been on other occasions. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 22:15:42 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 21:58:59 2014. What's your Stormfront handle, again? |
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Posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 22:15:50 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 22:14:14 2014. anyone who finds me offensive lives in an oversensitive fantasy world. wake up. |
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Posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 22:16:13 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 22:15:42 2014. thanks for the gold! |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 22:20:59 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 22:15:50 2014. You make categorical statements about entire groups of people. Why would that not be offensive?Suppose I posted one of the usual ethnic slurs about Americans of a particular European background (say Italian, Polish, or German, just as examples)? Would you find that offensive? |
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Posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 22:23:45 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 22:20:59 2014. you're asking the wrong question. there's no reason for it to be offensive.I say go ahead...I enjoy any and all laughs. hell, many of those stereotypes are rooted in fact. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 21 22:41:54 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Nov 21 22:11:47 2014. Yes. That wasn't offensive. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Nov 22 09:12:26 2014, in response to Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by DANd124 on Fri Nov 21 21:51:37 2014. "Modern Jews"? So now Jews are a species? Do they have any human antecedents? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:32:59 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 22:14:08 2014. LMAO |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Nov 22 10:59:17 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 21 22:41:54 2014. I'm nonplussed that everyone seems to focus on a silly (and obvious) joke rather than the article. Essentially the article is trying to mix debatable science with social suppositions to argue that Ashkenazi Jews are not really Jews of middle eastern origin. THAT idea has enormous political implications.They are arguing that Jews "traditionally" are matrelineal and that Jewish men married Italian women, so the offspring are not Jewish and this is proven genetically? Amazing. Maybe along with The Protocols they'll find documents about these bands of Jews on Shiksa patrols who found and raped thousands or millions of Italian women. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 22 11:06:26 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by SLRT on Sat Nov 22 10:59:17 2014. I didn't comment because I'm not convinced this study is valid. I'd like to see some corroboration. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Nov 22 11:21:39 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 22 11:06:26 2014. A bogus theory widely disseminated and unchallenged adds to the considerable body of world stupidity.I'm not saying it's your job prsonally to dispute it. |
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Posted by DANd124 on Sat Nov 22 11:52:49 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 22 11:06:26 2014. I'm not sure it's true but it the idea that Jewish men moved to Italy hardly sounds implausible, men usually migrate at higher rates than women. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 22 12:04:45 2014, in response to Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by DANd124 on Fri Nov 21 21:51:37 2014. they do resemble each other.if you're ever in Broward County Florida, everyone is Jewish from NY or Italians who got kicked out of the witness protection program. They all look a lot alike. Just look at Seinfeld. Little Jewish guy Jason Alexander and Jerry Stiller totally pass as Mamaluke and loud-mouthed Italians from working class Queens. And then there's Michael Richards who is at least 1/2 Italian but he always tried to pass himself off as Jewish totally looks Jewish. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Nov 22 12:59:09 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by DANd124 on Sat Nov 22 11:52:49 2014. Yes, I'm sure Italian men would have welcomed large members of foreign men invading their territory to marry their women. |
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Posted by DANd124 on Sat Nov 22 13:18:42 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by SLRT on Sat Nov 22 12:59:09 2014. well it happened |
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Posted by DANd124 on Sat Nov 22 13:20:54 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by SLRT on Sat Nov 22 12:59:09 2014. Where was Saint Peter born? Where was he buried? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 13:28:52 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by SLRT on Sat Nov 22 12:59:09 2014. LOL, Italy has been overrun with foreigners and invaders for thousands of years. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 13:30:48 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by SLRT on Sat Nov 22 10:59:17 2014. Why so touchy? If this is proven, so what? If the Italian women converted, their kids would still be Jews under Jewish law. Don' you think observant Jewish men would have ensured that their new wives converted? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 13:31:24 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by SLRT on Sat Nov 22 09:12:26 2014. How do you get from "modern Jews" to a "species"? |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Nov 22 13:42:51 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by DANd124 on Sat Nov 22 13:18:42 2014. Thank you for posting that! It is VERY interesting. |
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Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy? No. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 22 18:11:27 2014, in response to Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by DANd124 on Fri Nov 21 21:51:37 2014. Hit piece intended to invalidate the Jews' eternally-valid claim to the Land of Israel. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 22 18:11:35 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by DANd124 on Sat Nov 22 13:18:42 2014. 2010? More historical revisionism? The OP's bad enough already. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sat Nov 22 18:24:37 2014, in response to Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by DANd124 on Fri Nov 21 21:51:37 2014. If we did, then the Christian charge of deicide should have no applicability to today'sJews. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 19:01:53 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by Mitch45 on Sat Nov 22 18:24:37 2014. There was no deicide. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sat Nov 22 19:49:32 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 19:01:53 2014. I agree, but I was referring to the charge itself. Many Jews were murdered because of that charge. |
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Posted by DANd124 on Sat Nov 22 20:44:09 2014, in response to Re: Did Modern Jews Originate in Italy?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 22 18:11:35 2014. Huh? |
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