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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 22:05:07 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Oct 23 21:47:04 2014.

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And multiple eyewitnesses have testified to the grand jury that Wilson's life was in danger. So your point is what? Are you alleging the witnesses who testified committed perjury?

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 23 22:05:16 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 22:03:45 2014.

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You didn't use the word, "speculation"

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 22:08:18 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 23 22:05:16 2014.

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Oh, my bad. I'm not known for having my posts confuse my opinion with hard facts so I assumed that was obvious.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 23 22:22:30 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 22:08:18 2014.

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Sarcasm! I knew what you meant and I'm sure bigbang did too

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 23 22:40:30 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 22:03:45 2014.

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No, it's just speculation. This is not the full body of evidence in this case.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Oct 23 22:55:29 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 21:25:22 2014.

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You're arguing with a wall.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Oct 23 23:31:54 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Oct 23 22:55:29 2014.

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Pig Murderers are NEVER held accountable because even if thwe pig goes to trail, the spectator gallery is full of pigs, doing what they do best, INTIMIDATION. Pigs are nothing but a necessary evil.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 01:43:28 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 23 22:02:08 2014.

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FUCK YOU

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 01:44:25 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Thu Oct 23 22:05:07 2014.

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the officers life WAS NOT in danger he shot mr brown in COLD BLOOD

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 01:44:58 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Oct 23 23:31:54 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 01:46:52 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 23 22:02:08 2014.

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you never should have brought us here BY FORCE and MURDERED the rest of us who were already here

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 01:53:39 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 01:46:52 2014.

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Oh come on. Slavery was abolished (on paper) in 1865. Don't you know that means racism is now over and...
*PLOP*


Oops. Sorry about that. That was just one of the many bags of money I "earned" by being born with an ancestor who stole the value of your ancestor's labour and never gave it back. And no, you can't have any! It's mine! I "earned" it! If your ancestor wanted to be rich, he should have worked harder and... wait, that came out totally wrong.

So anyway, yeah, racism is over because I said so and I'm white which means I'm less biased.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 01:55:30 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 01:53:39 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
well ,LYNCHING went on afterward right ?
and now by police / sheriffs / law enforcement ?


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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 02:55:51 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 01:55:30 2014.

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Wow, it's almost like defeating the Confederacy on the battlefield and telling them that slavery was over whether they like it or not didn't cause the festering racism that led to slavery to mysteriously disappear!

So I read a fascinating article about how the colonial legislature of Virginia invented the White Race in 1691. Maybe I should post it to watch Chimmy and rkba explode.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by train dude on Fri Oct 24 06:55:29 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 01:46:52 2014.

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Were you brought here by force? Bybwhom? Which of your ancestors were brought here against their will? If you don't get enough free stuff from the tax payers, save your soda cans and leave. You are freebto go at any time.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by train dude on Fri Oct 24 06:57:09 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 01:43:28 2014.

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So you do go that way, then?

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 07:48:38 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 01:44:25 2014.

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Multiple witnesses testified to the grand jury Wilson's life was in danger. Are you accusing them of perjury?

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 24 08:11:29 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 02:55:51 2014.

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Ooooo....I'd like to see that.....

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 08:47:36 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 07:48:38 2014.

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Multiple witnesses testified to the grand jury Wilson's life was in danger.

A surmise on your part, based on leaked information. While your surmise is probably correct, it doesn't form a basis for your question because it remains a surmise.



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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 09:35:24 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 08:47:36 2014.

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No, that information comes from news reports. The Washington Post reported that at least six black witnesses gave grand jury testimony that supported Wilson's side of the story.

One forensic pathologist who reviewed the autopsy report noted that Brown’s hand wound wouldn’t have had gunpowder particulate in it unless his hand had been on or right next to Wilson’s gun. Two shell casings were also found in Wilson’s squad car, per the Post, supporting the fact that the gun was discharged twice inside the vehicle. Some of the physical evidence — including blood spatter analysis, shell casings and ballistics tests — also supports Wilson’s account of the shooting, The Post’s sources said, which casts Brown as an aggressor who threatened Wilson's life.



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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Oct 24 09:37:51 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 08:47:36 2014.

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None of us were present in Ferguson, Missouri on that day/time so everything anyone says on this board, be it Dave or bingbong or salaamallah is to some degree surmising based on reports they have heard

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 24 09:40:48 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 09:35:24 2014.

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The fact is that ONLY one person said that Michael Brown had his hands raised in surrender when shot.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 09:54:37 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 24 09:40:48 2014.

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I have no doubt he ran from the car and raised his hands in surrender...after he attacked Wilson in the squad car. I think the grand jury decision will come down to deciding why Wilson chose to chase down Brown and continue shooting.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 24 09:58:56 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 09:54:37 2014.

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Since the first shot struck Brown in the hand at close range, according to what I've read, I'd speculate that Brown's hand was raised during the attack and not in surrender. He was repeatedly shot because police are taught to shoot until the perp goes down. Wilson did not take the time to assess the damage each shot caused before firing the next. Sorry Brown dies. Glad Wilson lived. Time to move on

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 10:28:25 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by train dude on Fri Oct 24 06:55:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
native americans were murdered by the millions
all of my people were brought here by FORCE
do you collect soda cans or bottles ?
leave to where my people were here FIRST

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Oct 24 10:28:50 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by train dude on Fri Oct 24 06:57:09 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
you asked for it

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 11:32:10 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 09:35:24 2014.

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No, that information comes from news reports.

And the news reports come from leaks.

One forensic pathologist who reviewed the autopsy report noted that Brown’s hand wound wouldn’t have had gunpowder particulate in it unless his hand had been on or right next to Wilson’s gun.

That's changing the subject. You didn't impugn salaam's motives based on that, you impugned them based on the leaks.

And while I agree that there appears to be plenty of evidence exonerating Officer Wilson, the autopsy report could still be consistent with improper or even criminal action by him. Not all shots were fired at the same time. Two shots could have been fired during a struggle and the rest fired while Brown was some distance away with his hands up.

Do I think that's likely? Not at the moment. But nothing you have cited contradicts such a scenario.





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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 13:24:01 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 11:32:10 2014.

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Why does it matter whether or not the information came from a leak? Is it accurate(that's what the report says) or not?

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 24 13:54:18 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 13:24:01 2014.

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Why does it matter whether or not the information came from a leak?

If it was about a Republican or someone they perceive to be "conservative" or "right wing", they would laud it coming from a leak. Total hypocrites.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 15:52:18 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 24 13:54:18 2014.

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Very true.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 18:44:20 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 13:24:01 2014.

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If it comes from a leak, it's less likely to be accurate than if it comes from attributed sources.


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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 19:36:15 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 18:44:20 2014.

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The leak was of the official autopsy report from the ME's office. How much more attributed can it be than that?

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 19:59:51 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 19:36:15 2014.

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You've changed the topic. This is what you originally said.

Multiple witnesses testified to the grand jury Wilson's life was in danger. Are you accusing them of perjury?



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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 23:39:01 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 24 19:59:51 2014.

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Sorry, I thought you were referring to the leaked autopsy report.

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 23:47:21 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Dave on Fri Oct 24 23:39:01 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Conversations often branch out in numerous directions. That was me you were thinking of. Has the official report been released as of that article? I think not. Leaks are hearsay and inadmissible. Sustained! Jury will disregard. :)

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Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 25 12:22:06 2014, in response to Re: Probably very unlikely there’s going to be charges against Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Oct 23 19:59:29 2014.

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No, Terrapin Station. You are wrong again!!!

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