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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 1 12:08:34 2014 From the Washington Post's WonkblogIf the GOP wants to win elections, it should spend more time finding ways to convince voters to vote for them instead of trying to prevent those likely to vote against them from reaching the polls in the first place. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 1 12:13:24 2014, in response to Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 1 12:08:34 2014. I'll be voting early for Rick Scott. He's a crook but he's not a Democrat.It's not even about the issues for me. I just hate the people who vote Democrat, and how they view the world. The candidates themselves mean nothing. Oct 7 is when early voting now starts in Ohio. That's too close to the election. How evil. Should start in August. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 1 12:31:45 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 1 12:13:24 2014. Charlie Crist used to be Republican too. Means nothing. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 1 12:33:55 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 1 12:13:24 2014. I just hate the people who vote Republican, and how they view the world. I might still vote for a Republican if he were the better candidate. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 1 12:39:22 2014, in response to Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 1 12:08:34 2014. WOWIAWTP !!!!! total agreement here |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 1 12:39:31 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 1 12:13:24 2014. I agree that October 7 is a bit too early to start early voting, but I still think the bigger point is being missed here. The GOP is engaging in voter suppression to win elections, and it is deplorable. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 1 12:44:36 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 1 12:39:31 2014. IAWTPyeah ! The GOP is engaging in voter suppression to win elections, and it is deplorable. !! IAWTP |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 1 13:05:22 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 1 12:44:36 2014. Do you ever post thoughts of your own? Are you capable of thinking for yourself? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 1 13:22:05 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 1 13:05:22 2014. hell yeah !whats your point here ? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 1 13:23:10 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 1 13:05:22 2014. do it all the time you just dont give me credit for it |
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Posted by terRAPIN sTaTiOn on Wed Oct 1 13:45:08 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 1 13:23:10 2014. Show us an example. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:11:19 2014, in response to Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 1 12:08:34 2014. I have no problem with absentee voting. If you are unable to vote because you plan to be out of town, have a pre-planned medical procedure, or will be at work all day, then for that early voting makes sense.But if none of those circumstances pertain to you, then there is no reason why you cannot vote at your precinct on election Day. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:13:02 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 1 12:33:55 2014. It sounds like You're the hateful person. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:13:50 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 1 12:39:31 2014. No they are not. That's Bullshit! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 1 14:22:35 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:13:02 2014. Did you not bother to read the post I responded to? LuchAAA is the hateful person. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 1 14:24:35 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:13:50 2014. FALSE! They are in fact engaging in voter suppression. The statements of a number of GOP politicians confirm this. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:45:38 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 1 14:22:35 2014. I will now reread Luch's post to see what you're talking about. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:48:28 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 1 14:22:35 2014. I just read it. and I take back what I said. I in fact did Not read Luch's post, and he's wrong for what he said. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:49:16 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 1 14:24:35 2014. How? By requesting photo IDs? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Oct 1 14:52:44 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:49:16 2014. Yes, if the law is written in such a way that makes it impossible for the poor, elderly, minorities and other constituencies that traditionally vote for Democrats to obtain acceptable ID |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 1 15:05:39 2014, in response to Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 1 12:08:34 2014. If the GOP wants to win elections. . . they should practice greater fraud than the Dems? The liberal GOP establishment is already at it; don't worry. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 1 15:07:47 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by terRAPIN sTaTiOn on Wed Oct 1 13:45:08 2014. you first |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 15:31:25 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Oct 1 14:52:44 2014. No argument there. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 15:34:08 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:11:19 2014. Actually, absentee voting is where all of that fraud ACTUALLY occurs. Let's do away with absentee ballots entirely and require you to show up at the polls when you'll be around to be checked out in person. That was the whole idea behind early voting because you never know for sure who really mailed an absentee ballot in, how many, and where. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Oct 1 17:15:13 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:11:19 2014. Aside from your precinct, not being allocated sufficient ballots, machines or staff to handle the actual number of voters, creating long lines, multi-hour waits and many being turned away for lack of time to allow all to vote.This is often sen in places with a large potential Democratic base, and present political control by republicans. It's yet another way to attempt to reduce turnout among those who don't vote they way they like. Which BTW, is rapidly becoming everyone just about. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Oct 1 17:22:52 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 1 15:05:39 2014. How? By getting legal support to these cases seeking to open up the franchise to all Americans? It isn't the republicans paying for lawyers to try these cases, yunno. They're the one publicly stating they will do all they can to ensure as many of the Democratic party's following will never get to the polls in any and every way at their disposal. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 20:24:32 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 15:34:08 2014. You're being sarcastic aren't you? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 20:26:27 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 20:24:32 2014. I was, but the meaning behind it is quite true. Absentee ballots are where 99% of all voter fraud occurs and I don't see anybody doing anything about that other than election board inspectors. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 20:27:17 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 20:26:27 2014. I'll even toss a cookie to the republicans on this one. Ever wonder how all those dead voters vote? Absentee. :(Literally. :) |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 20:28:34 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 20:26:27 2014. So in other words, as usual you disagree with me. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 20:31:17 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 20:28:34 2014. Not necessarily ... I believe we're talking two different things here. First is what the radio says is happening, the second is what's actually happening. :) |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 20:33:34 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 20:31:17 2014. Again, this is what you disagree with. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 20:38:02 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 20:33:34 2014. I'm not disagreeing though, merely pointing out that curtailing early voting to resolve "voter fraud" is not where the "voter fraud" is happening. If "voter fraud" was an issue, then they should really go after the absentee voting. But personally, as I see it, voter fraud is such a low number to begin with, I'd really prefer that they get together on a budget instead of any of this. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 20:42:11 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 20:38:02 2014. In other words, for the umpteenth time, you once again agree with your wife. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 20:58:25 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 20:42:11 2014. And lots of other people who have actually worked polling places as volunteers and got to see what REALLY happens there. Yep. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 14:41:05 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 14:11:19 2014. I find it more convenient to vote by mail, and Maryland law allows you to vote by mail for any reason. My ballot for November's election arrived via email today in fact. |
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Posted by DANd124 on Thu Oct 2 14:42:21 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 14:41:05 2014. I don't like voting by mail, it makes vote buying possible. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 2 14:53:58 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 14:41:05 2014. Do you plan on being in town on November 4th? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 14:57:39 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 2 14:53:58 2014. I have no clue where I'm sleeping this upcoming Saturday night, you expect me to know where I'll be in over a month from now? It's so much easier just to get my ballot this way and mail it in from wherever I am. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 2 15:04:56 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 14:57:39 2014. So therefore early voting is justifiable in your case. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 15:05:37 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 2 15:04:56 2014. Why shouldn't it be justifiable in all cases? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 2 15:06:04 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 15:05:37 2014. Because it's susceptible to fraud. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 2 15:11:05 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 15:05:37 2014. In case you didn't read it the first time. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 15:15:27 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 2 15:11:05 2014. I'm not necessarily planning to be out of town, I just don't want to deal with trying to get a ballot by mail at the last minute if I need one. How does your suggestion cover my situation? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 15:16:15 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 2 15:06:04 2014. I don't actually think it is susceptible to significantly more fraud than voting in person is. There seem to be quite a few anti-fraud safeguards in the whole process. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 2 15:34:33 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 15:15:27 2014. If there is the slightest bit of doubt that you will not be in town, then absentee voting is for you. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 15:35:41 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 2 15:34:33 2014. And if I am completely sure I will be able to go to my precinct but prefer voting by mail? This is the problem with rules such as the one you are endorsing here... |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 2 15:46:46 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 15:35:41 2014. We are making way to easy for people to vote. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 15:54:40 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 2 15:46:46 2014. There is no such thing as "too easy for people to vote." Why are our turnout rates so pathetic? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 2 15:57:12 2014, in response to Re: Why early voting is about so much more than convenience, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Oct 2 15:54:40 2014. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it. |
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