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Re: For the benefit of our RW ficktards |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 31 04:31:42 2014, in response to Re: For the benefit of our RW ficktards, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 03:26:41 2014. Well, Poroshenko is asking for help now, and the Ukrainian military is running scared at the thought of engaging Russia directly, it looks like. I was seriously hoping that Ukraine would score a decisive victory before Russia could intervene, but now it looks like Russia will get what they want. :-( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 05:26:21 2014, in response to Re: For the benefit of our RW ficktards, posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 31 04:31:42 2014. Poroshenko definitely needs help, but more than anything right now, they need money, and they're about to tap into $1 Billion from the EU. EU is who they really need, America isn't all that important to Putin as a weapon, the EU depends on Russia for gas and exports whereas we don't, so it's disappointing to me that they're not solidly standing behind Ukraine.EU ain't doing Ukraine any favors right now. France is still trying to get their military contract money with direct arms sales to Putin, same for Netherlands and Germany. What Poroshenko needs from us, he's been getting and they're quite pleased with what Obama's been doing for them so far. My oldest coworker is directly involved with getting that all together for his country right now, and for now, he's OK. Can't say very much - both of my guys are serving in the Ukraine Military right now, and are on leave from us, so what happens over there is of IMMENSE personal importance to us bingbong and I quite personally. Not to mention that bingbong's ancestry is from Lviv which is Ukraine now, but was once Poland. So it's QUITE personal for both of us. But America REALLY needs to stay out of this one - we're just pissed that EU is giving Putin solace by not standing up to him. Wish I could say more, but I fear giving away any of what I know that shouldn't be "out there" right now. Both of us pray for Ukraine daily though. :( |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Aug 31 07:59:36 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 21:25:48 2014. They itch about things done right too. They're still bitching about ACA, while even the republicans have abandoned that fight. It's working, that's proven. I guess the think that should anything work, they'd have no sidewalk act. Shame. |
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Re: For the benefit of our LW ficktards |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 31 13:02:57 2014, in response to For the benefit of our RW ficktards, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 03:02:26 2014. LOL al-Reuters. "We do not have a strategy . . . yet." And they're doing no better than any other country with respect to Iraq. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 31 15:10:38 2014, in response to Re: For the benefit of our RW ficktards, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 05:26:21 2014. What has Obama done so far, aside from organizing sanctions? The sanctions, unfortunately, aren't really stopping Russia, because right now Putin is motivated by his ego and pride, and those aren't affected by things like the economy. He's also probably waiting for the first cold snap in Europe, which will make the EU think twice about interfering.Heard that Ukrainian casualties are pretty significant, hope they make it out ok. |
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Re: For the benefit of our RW ficktards |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 31 18:07:03 2014, in response to Re: For the benefit of our RW ficktards, posted by 3-9 on Sun Aug 31 15:10:38 2014. That, and lighting some fire under NATO. Can't go into other details, but rest assured that we are helping out in a non-military way. |
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