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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 18:30:20 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 19 18:27:57 2014. well you should know the truth and stop backing up this cop in his murder |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 18:31:13 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 18:30:20 2014. Hey, you interrupted Double Post Tuesday! You are a Double Post Tuesday interrupter! :D |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 18:31:16 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 18:30:20 2014. Hey, you interrupted Double Post Tuesday! You are a Double Post Tuesday interrupter! :D |
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Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 18:36:58 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 12:23:38 2014. Under Bush, the troops were not nearly as well outfitted as they were under Obama.Just gonna quote that for posterity. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 18:37:16 2014, in response to Re: I hate the previous thread title, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 18 14:10:11 2014. Name three people you think aren't liberal. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 19 18:48:27 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 18:30:20 2014. I don't have a formed opinion yet in this matter as I've yet to be privy to ALL of the facts. For me, I use logic, analysis, and reason over emotions, rhetoric, and opinions when it comes to such matters. |
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Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 18:51:20 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 18:36:58 2014. I never posted that. Why are you attributing statements to me that I never posted, troll? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 19 18:52:06 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 18:51:20 2014. Because of what he is? (antisemite) |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 18:54:06 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 19 18:48:27 2014. Salaam doesn't let trivial things like facts influence his judgement. Typical mob mentality, acting on what they think happened rather than waiting for the facts to come out. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 18:59:15 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 18:51:20 2014. You posted exactly that. I just switched the years with the names of the White House's occupant at the time.So which is it? Are you trying to deny that you said this: In 2004 the troops were not nearly as well outfitted as they were in 2010. ...here? Or are you trying to deny that George W. Bush was President in 2004? Or are you trying to deny that Barack H. Obama was President in 2010? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 19:02:35 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 19 18:52:06 2014. OK, not only do you still have to prove my alleged antisemitism (which you've consistently failed to do on account of it not actually existing) but you also need to explain exactly what antisemitism has to do with the equipment America issues to its soldiers.Hold on, I'mma add that to the list of Questions Olog Can't Answer. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 19:02:53 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 18:54:06 2014. thef acts are this was a murder period |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 19:03:02 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 18:54:06 2014. the acts are this was a murder period |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 19:04:26 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 18:31:13 2014. ok |
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Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 19:16:55 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 19:02:35 2014. You still haven't answered my question, troll. Why did you attribute to me statements I never posted? |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 19:18:10 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 18:59:15 2014. You added words to the statement as if I wrote them. You did not note that you added those words. That makes you a liar, troll. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 19:18:45 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 19:02:53 2014. Thank you for proving my point. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 19:19:23 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 19:18:45 2014. you so called ''point'' is NOT proven |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 19:53:47 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 19 16:17:18 2014. Not ... anymore. :(
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 19 20:43:09 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 19:02:53 2014. But, looking from an objective viewpoint, how are they facts? All the facts haven't even been made public yet, so how can we form opinions yet without being uninformed? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 20:48:24 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 19 20:43:09 2014. When the Ferguson police department released the name of Darren Wilson, they also chose to release video footage which they claimed was of Michael Brown robbing a convenience store for some cigars.The problem is, the video shows Michael Brown at the register, paying for the cigars. From observation, it looks as if he had tried to buy more, but then was unable to afford it, hence why he left several packets on the counter. This prompted the store owner to come out from behind the counter and have a discussion with him, which prompted the shove witnessed in the full video. Whatever words were exchanged between the man in the video and the store owner, they were not considered very serious, as the store owner nor the employees did not report a theft at the store. According to the stores attorney, the owners were bewildered when the police approached them demanding the surveillance tapes. The store owners are now afraid of themselves becoming a target, due to the Ferguson PD’s attempt to tie their store to the fateful shooting. A gross abuse of police authority, one which now puts someone else at risk. Even if Michael Brown were a petty thief, this does not excuse the cold-blooded shooting death of the 18-year-old. Of course the right-wing took the robbery claim at face value, and began labeling Michael Brown as a ‘thug‘ who did not deserve due process. But instead it looked like he was a teenager who was enjoying a few cigars which he purchased at the local store. The store owners did not claim he stole from them. Video evidence shows him paying for the cigars found on him. The police attempt to paint Michael Brown as anything but a victim is a complete and total fraud. Michael Brown was to start college last Monday, and was preparing to start his own business upon graduation. Officer Wilson cut short a promising young man before he could truly get his start in the world. It is a story so tragic due not to this isolated case, but for how common this is in America. The United States is racing the results of decades of legitimized racism. Ever since President Reagan made it ok to bash the poor, so long as they were black, the progress in race relations in this country has been undone. Now we are facing the obvious result of this criminalization of African-Americans in the US. Is it not time to say enough is enough, and stop putting the blame on the victims? http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/18/ferguson-pd-busted/ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 21:14:19 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 20:48:24 2014. Interesting question ... did the police release THAT video at the same time as the other one? If so, then US media has a *lot* of explaining to do about why we haven't seen the second video until now. :( |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 21:26:53 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 21:14:19 2014. No other news source is talking about this other video. That makes it suspect, according to the rules set by LWers here. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 21:27:46 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 19 16:29:48 2014. No matter you say it's wrong and not believable, Bill. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 21:33:04 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 19:53:47 2014. Is that GI Joe in between Quickdraw McGraw and SpongeBob? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 21:34:25 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 21:26:53 2014. I find ALL published stuff suspect as I kinda explained in some other subthreads in this. There are no Sherlock Holmes' in the fourth estate any longer. But I *would* like to know who sourced the footage, not commentary on it as the first step in my own "truth or bullshit" hunt.Looks like the same store ... if I was a reporter now, I'd want to know if this was part of the original release package, did the store owner slip this one out the back door, or was it a followup? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 19 21:45:00 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Aug 19 15:42:34 2014. So first you thought that they should shoot for the legs, now you believe they shouldn't have shot at all? Make up what passes for your mind. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 19 21:50:27 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 21:27:46 2014. This is police procedure, NOT my opinion or "my take" on it.... I would HOPE reasonable people can let this sink through their skulls.... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 22:04:52 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 19 21:50:27 2014. There is no such thing as solid police procedure. Every situation is unique and the tactics deployed depend on how tightly a situation has to be contained and who is at peril. I wasn't shitting you before when I told you that my buddies had told me that shooting the hostage was a viable solution *IF* there was no other practical means available during an escape situation in a kidnapping.I'll also say that I won't offer the details of the scenario because it's considered TAC CON but there ARE scenarios published where this is an option. It is ALSO part of the tactical training that wherever possible, try to immobilize the suspect and not blow them up the way you describe IF POSSIBLE as a higher priority. If you're in a shootout and the public is at risk, then just take their asses out. In a situation where you're confident in your training and ability to control your weapon, then try to take the kneecaps out first. If you're a shit shot, then (and if you ARE a cop you'll know that I speak truthfully here) "aim for the T" so that the gunman won't even be able to pull the trigger when you drop them. Kapische? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 22:07:42 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 21:33:04 2014. Yep! Ain't "soccer moms" a hoot when they get all worked up? :)
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 22:36:12 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 19:16:55 2014. Yes I did. I answered it right here. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 22:36:16 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 19:18:10 2014. Is the concept of synonyms confusing you? I didn't make any alterations to the meaning of your statement. Since I didn't "add" anything, there's no need to mention adding anything.Were this a newspaper, I'd put brackets around "under Bush" and "under Obama," but it isn't. This is a web forum, where the conversation is laid out in easy to follow threaded form, making genuine confusion impossible for any intelligent rational reader. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:50:50 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 22:36:12 2014. No you didn't, troll. When you add words someone else didn't write, you identify the source. You did not identify the source but tried to make it look like I did. That makes you a liar. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 22:52:16 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:50:50 2014. This is the second time in a row that you accused me of failing to answer a question after I'd already answered it. Try to keep up. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:54:14 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 22:07:42 2014. Please tell me that's a goof! |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:58:22 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 22:36:16 2014. Sorry, troll. That dog don't hunt. You got caught. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 22:59:39 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 22:07:42 2014. Sarah would make as great president! |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:01:30 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:58:22 2014. Dave: In 2004 the troops were not nearly as well outfitted as they were in 2010. What was given to local police departments is equipment used by our troops late in the war. The author's premise is specious but not surprising given the site where it was published, a very left-wing media outlet. If you find that confusing, then you're dumber than I thought. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 23:02:59 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:01:30 2014. Dave is so much more smarter than you. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:04:10 2014, in response to Re: Iraq Vet: Ferguson Police Have Better Armor and Weaponry than We Had in War, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 23:02:59 2014. I believe Drs. Dunning and Kruger might have something to say about your opinions. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 23:15:24 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:54:14 2014. Selkirk taking subchat seriously ... :)But yeah, the whole "cartoons are too violent" thing was a battle won against television by a bunch of "soccer moms" many years ago which resulted in the censorship of most of the old classics which will never be seen again because the studios burned the negatives too. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 23:21:32 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 22:59:39 2014. Of Russia. Picture her and Putin doing the nasty. :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:22:27 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 23:21:32 2014. The very first thing Sarah couldn't quit! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 23:37:10 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:22:27 2014. Exchanging bear hugs ... now there's an image that needs chlorine. :) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Aug 20 03:07:27 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 23:15:24 2014. Which ones were completely destroyed? WB, for instance, kept a lot of old Bugs Bunny stuff, even the really objectionable stuff. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Aug 20 05:06:20 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 23:37:10 2014. Another nilet ass kisser. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 20 08:49:07 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by 3-9 on Wed Aug 20 03:07:27 2014. There was a list several years ago. WB was one of the majors who censored the content and destroyed the originals. MGM probably had the greatest purges. Just took a fast look to see if I could find any of the articles, didn't find anything fast. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 20 13:25:54 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 19 21:45:00 2014. LOL! |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Aug 25 17:11:06 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 19 16:16:57 2014. And you see....he ran away...that DAVE......and does DEFEND his piece of shit post. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 25 17:56:20 2014, in response to Re: More Proof That fred is a white uncle tom, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Aug 25 17:11:06 2014. He still think whites dont loot and riot too LOL !! |
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