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ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 20:22:13 2014

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The religion of peace

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 21:08:16 2014, in response to ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 20:22:13 2014.

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These guys make Gaza look like a Coney Island ride. :(

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 21:11:05 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 21:08:16 2014.

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True, unfortunately. And we're going to do very little about it until it's too late.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 21:24:44 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 21:11:05 2014.

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Hate to break it, but we're ALREADY in there doing something about it. The US military is. They just got their dam back overnight. Downside here though is that we're now risking having the Pesh Merga turn on Turkey in a couple of years.

As to long term solutions, we may have to raise taxes in order to pay for more stuff. Let's see who's willing to sell THAT.

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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 21:29:16 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 21:24:44 2014.

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Nah, we're barely scratching the surface. Destroying some equipment, killing a handful of bad guys. They'll ooze their way back into the civilian populace where we can't get at the majority of 'em.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 21:59:43 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 21:29:16 2014.

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I still can't wrap my mind about the original plan back in 2001 when we took out Saddam to give Iraq to Iran, then formed a government between all the crooks Rumsfeld knew from Chalabi to Maliki made up of Iran's folks who then went and caused the Sunnis to revolt. *IF* we had just left that shit alone in the first place, Saddam was at least something that kept Iran somewhat in check.

Now because of all this, we've got the Sunni and Shia killing each other for now ... and you're right. Once the dust settles, both sides will come after everybody else. We broke it, the world bought it. :(

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 22:36:18 2014, in response to ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 20:22:13 2014.

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As practiced by America's choice of leadership.

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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:41:38 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 21:59:43 2014.

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Saddam was at least something that kept Iran somewhat in check.

Better the devil you know.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 22:44:13 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 21:08:16 2014.

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They are both barbaric.

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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:45:44 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 22:36:18 2014.

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Adults are having a conversation here, Nilet. Why don't you sit at the kids table until we're done?

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 22:46:35 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:41:38 2014.

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More to the point, better the devil you can control.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 19 22:46:44 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:41:38 2014.

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But they didn't know Saddam. He was no Shah.

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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 22:46:51 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:45:44 2014.

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You really want him influencing other kids?

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 19 22:47:13 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 22:46:51 2014.

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We'll bind and gag him; don't worry.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:47:28 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 22:46:51 2014.

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Good point!

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 22:49:26 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:45:44 2014.

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If you've somehow forgotten about "Operation Iraqi Freedom," then you have no place among the adults here.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 22:49:34 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 19 22:47:13 2014.

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Kinky! Didn't know you were into that, Trollboy.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 22:55:46 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 22:46:35 2014.

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Ding-ding-ding! We HAVE a winner, no more calls please! :)

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 22:56:27 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 19 22:46:44 2014.

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Uh yeah ... they did. And if only he'd cut Halliburton them drilling contracts, he'd probably STILL be running the place. :(

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 23:00:29 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 22:44:13 2014.

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I'm sorry ... but used plumbing stuffed with fireworks and popguns absolutely does NOT compare with American military weapons. Gazans are kiddie park rides compared to the other guys.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 23:01:59 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 23:00:29 2014.

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And what the fuck are you mumbling?

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:03:03 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 23:01:59 2014.

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Oh, my mistake. I didn't realise this was just meaningless copypasta.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 23:03:43 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:03:03 2014.

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Punk.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:04:30 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 23:03:43 2014.

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Knup.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 23:05:12 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 23:01:59 2014.

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I agree with Selkirk on this one, Irwin. ISIS is using stolen American weaponry. Hamas is not. Our equipment is far superior to the junk Hamas is using.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 23:06:05 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 23:05:12 2014.

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They are both equally evil!

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Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 23:07:47 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 19 23:06:05 2014.

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They are but ISIS is more dangerous right now.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:09:10 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 23:05:12 2014.

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That's just a question of effectiveness, not intent.

Give Hamas modern military hardware, and they'll be just as bad if not worse. Give Hamas military power on par with America's and you'd have a global holocaust. That they don't have the ability to cause any real damage doesn't mean they're not evil enough to do so if they could.

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 23:09:51 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:09:10 2014.

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True.

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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:14:41 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 23:07:47 2014.

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More dangerous, but trickier to deal with given (a) the clusterfuck that is Iraq, (b) the clusterfuck that is Syria, (c) the fact that we are directly responsible for creating the clusterfuck that is Iraq, (d) the fact that we share indirect responsibility for contributing to the clusterfuck that is Syria, and (e) the fact that after creating the clusterfuck that is Iraq, Americans are understandably reluctant to send troops back in to make a bigger clusterfuck.

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Posted by Gamera on Tue Aug 19 23:15:06 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:09:10 2014.

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But if your wish came true and the blockade on Gaza was lifted Hamas would be able to obtain better weapons, wouldn't they?

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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:15:21 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 23:09:51 2014.

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On the plus side, modern civilisation only exists because most evil people don't have the ability to cause any real damage! :)

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:18:10 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Gamera on Tue Aug 19 23:15:06 2014.

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You're not very bright, are you?

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Posted by Gamera on Tue Aug 19 23:20:27 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:18:10 2014.

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Just as we figured
You do not have a valid response
Point made.
You lose

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Re: ISIS beheads American journalist

Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:21:46 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Gamera on Tue Aug 19 23:20:27 2014.

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Who's "we?" It's just you and your silly rantings.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 19 23:22:27 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 23:05:12 2014.

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Thank you ... and that's a MRAP for me, good night everybody, drive safely, don't get arrested. :)

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Posted by Gamera on Tue Aug 19 23:23:10 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:21:46 2014.

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Shared handle
We are taking turns with you


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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:25:25 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Gamera on Tue Aug 19 23:23:10 2014.

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Ha! So your attempt at sockpuppetry was foiled by your laziness. Perfect! :D

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Posted by Gamera on Tue Aug 19 23:37:16 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:25:25 2014.

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You avoided answering our question.
That speaks for itself!

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Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Aug 19 23:38:52 2014, in response to ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 20:22:13 2014.

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Very sad situation. You know an org is bad when Al Qaeda wants nothing to do with them for being too extreme. Unfortunately I guess we will be over there indefinitely. I wonder who is funding this group, they seem to have better training and better weapons than the Iraqi gov't. The Iraqi gov't was in such a rush for us to leave they don't seem to be as ready as they thought.

PS Not all Muslims are bad they just have some terrible apples with means(sorry will get off my moral soapbox now)

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Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Aug 19 23:39:49 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 22:41:38 2014.

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very true

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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:47:07 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Gamera on Tue Aug 19 23:37:16 2014.

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You didn't ask any question.

Although I'm pretty sure that in an Internet Waor, sockpuppetry means you automatically lose, so I'll mark this in the win column no matter how half-assed your attempt.

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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 19 23:49:06 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 19 23:47:07 2014.

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Hey 2 years are up - its past your bath time.

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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 20 00:04:39 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 19 23:49:06 2014.

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My directors serve for three year terms, and "bath time" is a flagrant mistranslation— although the word "kainas" literally means "to clean [oneself]," it's used idiomatically to refer to removing the old guard at a company to bring in new ideas. It also has connotations of forced retirement, so you probably shouldn't let my CEO hear you say it.

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Posted by Gamera on Wed Aug 20 00:07:25 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 20 00:04:39 2014.

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You live in a stupid fantasy world
explains a lot

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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 20 00:08:31 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Gamera on Wed Aug 20 00:07:25 2014.

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Taking a page out of Terrapin's book, huh?

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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 20 03:28:49 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Gamera on Tue Aug 19 23:37:16 2014.

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That's why I don't answer his stupid questions, which he ought to know the answers for already. But I'll keep bringing up Question 11 ("when have I ever exhibited antisemitism et cetera") for a while.

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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 20 04:07:39 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 20 03:28:49 2014.

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But I'll keep bringing up Question 11...

Bringing it up, but not actually answering it. That's why it's on the list of Questions Olog Can't Answer.

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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Aug 20 08:26:43 2014, in response to ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by Dave on Tue Aug 19 20:22:13 2014.

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I am reminded of a musical skit during Mel Brooks' hilarious 1983 film, "To Be or Not to Be", which was a remake of an earlier Jack Benny films. Brooks plays the head of an acting company who is trying to get his troupe out of Nazi Germany, despite there being a number of Jews and homosexuals in the troupe.

During the skit, Brooks, dressed as Hitler, sings about peace. "All I vant is peace! Peace! A little piece of England, a little piece of France..."

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Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 20 09:16:16 2014, in response to Re: ISIS beheads American journalist, posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Aug 19 23:38:52 2014.

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IIRC Qatar is providing funds.

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