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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 29 17:19:35 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Gamera on Tue Jul 29 16:01:47 2014. Troublemaking and one-upmanship of the USA. Remember that Stalin also signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. Take note that right afterwards, the USSR sided unilaterally with the Arabs. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 29 17:21:22 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jul 29 16:13:44 2014. No, it was the USSR, under Stalin the trickster. Not that they ever sided with Israel over anything. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 18:21:03 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 16:23:20 2014. You're wrong. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 18:27:26 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 18:21:03 2014. Of course I'm wrong. With cops standing there writing tickets for expired meters, I drop in my coin and they smile and nothing happens. Yep, I'm wrong. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 18:28:41 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 18:27:26 2014. Yep. You are wrong. Because what you just posted in no way proves that feeding the meter is legal. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 18:35:41 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 18:28:41 2014. I think that if it were, the cops would have something to say about it. You can do time up here for littering. Can you prove that it's illegal in Albany or Schenectady? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jul 29 18:52:37 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jul 29 13:51:44 2014. But they're ok hearing that the women and children are being out in such a position to be killed by their own people? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 18:52:57 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 29 14:09:47 2014. That post was carved out of pure ignorance. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jul 29 19:04:41 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jul 29 18:52:37 2014. But the news for the most part doesn't mention that, only body counts. |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:17:29 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 09:58:26 2014. Who was it who entered the other nation's territory first? Oh right. "Defensive" only in the sense that a good defense is a strong offense. Clearly they're winning the propaganda war with a select group of people. |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:21:48 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jul 29 10:19:50 2014. You haven't heard any exaggeration of Hamas' evil? It's right here in this thread. It's what i was responding to. Pigs made The baseless claim that Hamas will subjugate all women to a degree greater than the economic disadvantage of their country creates. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 21:31:44 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:17:29 2014. Gaza is Israeli territory. It has not been ceded to any other state. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 21:38:51 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:21:48 2014. It is not at all baseless. As for economic disadvantage, there is no excuse for subjugation of women, whether or not it causes economic disadvantage. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 29 23:58:11 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 18:21:03 2014. Well THAT'S a surprise! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 29 23:59:33 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 16:23:20 2014. LOL. You don't seem to understand the concept of parking meters. Feeding the meter is illegal. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 00:09:39 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:21:48 2014. No, I have not. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 00:11:52 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 29 23:59:33 2014. And once again, you and your pal are clueless.Here ... check this out and eat your heart out. Maybe you should move to a civilized place. http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Hello-your-meter-is-hungry-4477779.php |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 00:19:46 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 00:11:52 2014. Wow, you're an idiot. That article does not say that feeding the meter is legal! That article says that the old meters had 2-hour parking limits and the new meters have 10-hour parking limits. In both cases, remaining in the same spot or within a certain area for longer than those limits, even if you have FED THE METER, is ILLEGAL. That is called FEEDING THE METER. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 00:24:58 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 00:19:46 2014. And again the challenge that neither you nor your bud have managed to accomplish. Show me where it's illegal in Albany or Schenectady. Those are the only places around here with parking meters and we "feed" them all the time. Show me a ticket for doing so ... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 07:21:01 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 00:19:46 2014. Right. Refilling the meter but staying within the time limit is not "feeding the meter." |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jul 30 07:45:37 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 00:24:58 2014. So the time limits are voluntary??? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 18:07:11 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jul 30 07:45:37 2014. That's right. And the 10 hour "limit" isn't on the meters, it's on the technology that would allow you to prepay. There are no limits.The whole reason for there being parking meters at all was because of a long standing problem with state employees parking their cars on the street while at work. The state never built enough parking lots and garages for employees and residents got pissed off at not being able to find parking spots near their homes in the daytime. And so Albany put in meters and a local law that would limit parking to no more than two hours before you had to move your car somewhere else. State employee unions sued, got the law overturned back in the 90's. At the same time, they came up with resident parking stickers for a handful of streets closest to the state office buildings to discourage staties from parking there. But the limit was never enforced. It's musical chairs in the morning and if a fight over a parking space broke out, the resident with a sticker wins. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:19:57 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 18:07:11 2014. Just because it's not enforced doesn't mean it's not illegal. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 19:24:08 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:19:57 2014. We keep coming back to the same thing though ... show me the law that makes it illegal in Albany. Has to be a law for it to be illegal. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:29:34 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 19:24:08 2014. 13.21.040 Parking time limited in certain areas.When signs are erected in any block or within any public parking lot limiting permissible parking time, no person shall park a vehicle within that block or parking lot for longer than the time posted upon the sign. Movement of a vehicle to a parking space on either side of the same street within the area between the intersections at each end of the block shall not extend the time limits for parking. Nor shall movement of a vehicle to another parking space within the same parking lot extend the time limits for parking. After a vehicle has been moved from the posted block or parking lot for a period of time not less than one hour, then a new time limitation shall apply. (Ord. 4702 § 2, 1986). |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 30 19:29:42 2014, in response to Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jul 28 12:22:43 2014. they support it because they are turned on by it.they think Palestinian men are attractive and rugged, want to be taken by a group of Muslim men. also support out of frustration with their own men. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:30:17 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:29:34 2014. HOLY FUCK! Wrong Albany. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 19:36:26 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 30 19:29:42 2014. They shouldn't have insisted on feminization of their own men, and by the time the "rugged" terrorists are done with them (if they survive), they'll wish for their own men back. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:38:40 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:29:34 2014. § 359-132. Maximum time for parking.At any location on the streets, thoroughfares and public places of this City where a parking meter is in active operation it shall be lawful, upon payment of the designated coin or coins, or other form of applicable payment, for that particular location, to park a vehicle for the full period designated as the maximum period for legal parking… That's from the real Albany. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 30 19:40:22 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 19:36:26 2014. yes.the support is sexual. it's sexually driven. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 19:42:51 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:30:17 2014. No worries, bro ... there's quite a few of them. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 19:59:48 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:38:40 2014. Notice the unusual wording of that? Lemme explain what it means and how it works and the reasoning behind the way it's written. I'll toss in some images here so it makes some sense to you. DO NOTE that it says nothing whatsoever about "feeding" the meters in any way.Here's the typical sign in the capitol area:  Here is a typical meter:  Note that you can only put a maximum of one hour's worth of coin in it. It cannot meter any more than one hour. Now look at the signs up above. 3 hour, 6 hour, 10 hour coming soon. Here is *the* metermaid and the metercar:  So back to basics ... the meter allows one hour tops. Some of the newer ones allow TWO. So what do you do when your time is up but the sign says you can stay? You FEED the meter! And it's perfectly OK! The metermaid checks to ensure that there's time on the meter. No time left, ticket. Time on the meter, she moves on in search of ticket food. THIW. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 20:10:00 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 19:59:48 2014. No, that's what people think they can do, but it isn't. Again, just because it isn't enforced doesn't mean it's not the law. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 20:14:05 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 20:10:00 2014. You just posted the law though and nowhere in it is anything about not feeding the meters. You can even feed the bears around here. The law is SOLELY about depositing money in the meters and the city getting paid. Nothing else beyond that.And no, they don't chalk your tires either. They could give a shit. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:54:24 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 19:59:48 2014. DO NOTE that it says nothing whatsoever about "feeding" the meters in any way.Yes it does. to park a vehicle for the full period designated as the maximum period for legal parking pwn3d |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 31 18:03:09 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:54:24 2014. I even provided pretty pictures and you still don't get it. :-\ |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Aug 2 19:57:50 2014, in response to Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jul 28 12:22:43 2014. I see women protesting against Israel's actions in Gaza and I am puzzled.Are they really this stupid? Do they understand the cause they are championing? I can't understand why any non-Muslim woman would want to support the Palestinians or any branch of militant Islam. Do they understand that under Sharia law... False dichotomy. Opposing the things that Israel is currently doing does not mean opposing Israel in principle, and it certainly doesn't mean supporting some random group of people Israel doesn't like— a fact I have repeatedly tried, and failed, to explain to all the Israel nutters. |
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Posted by Gamera on Sat Aug 2 23:07:38 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Nilet on Sat Aug 2 19:57:50 2014. Opposing the things that Israel is currently doing does not mean opposing Israel in principleYou have made it clear that you oppose the concept of Israel as a JEWISH state. Therefore you do oppose the principle upon which Israel was founded and continues to exist |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 3 12:16:44 2014, in response to Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jul 28 12:22:43 2014. 
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Aug 3 13:11:49 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 3 12:16:44 2014. Still unsure why the opinions of actors are important. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 3 13:17:10 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Aug 3 13:11:49 2014. Mtich Mtich Mtich.That's not how it works. This is about women supporting Islam, not actors and actresses. And it's important to monitor celebrities because they use their visibility to influence the masses. Thanks. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 3 13:53:04 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Gamera on Sat Aug 2 23:07:38 2014. You are not very bright, are you?I've explained this before, repeatedly, and you've showed no sign of comprehension but whatever, here we go again. Your post is a combination of exaggerations and lies. I've pointed out that no country has any right to restrict the rights of its citizens or prospective immigrants to artificially enforce the supremacy of any religious or ethnic group. Telling a country it's not allowed to craft its laws to enforce the power of a declared Master Race™ is not the same thing as telling it that it should not exist. The principle on which a country was founded is absolutely irrelevant. America was founded on the principle of slavery. Most countries in Europe were founded on the principle of a king's divine right to absolute power. Do you oppose the 13th Amendment? Do you oppose democracy in Europe? Do you believe that America was "destroyed" by abolishing slavery or that France was "destroyed" by unseating its king? Was England destroyed by the Magna Carta, or more recently when the last remnants of the monarch's political power were dissolved? I reiterate my previous post— Opposing the things that Israel is currently doing does not mean opposing Israel in principle. You quoted that line, but you clearly don't understand it, since you accused me of opposing Israel in principle because I disapprove of what they're currently doing. |
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Posted by Gamera on Sun Aug 3 13:57:55 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 3 12:16:44 2014. Thank you for posting thisWe will be boycotting all of her movies! |
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Posted by Gamera on Sun Aug 3 14:20:22 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 3 13:53:04 2014. The principle on which a country was founded is absolutely irrelevant.Wrong! America was founded on the principle of slavery. No it was not. Slavery was NOT the driving force behind the revolution Most countries in Europe were founded on the principle of a king's divine right to absolute power. Wrong. They were founded based on nationality / culture. Just because they were ruled by kings was incidental. Look at all the countries that were created when the cold war ended - the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Croatia, Serbia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus, Armenia, etc.... They all divided along ethnic lines, some peacefully, some not. Countries where the borders do not line up neatly with the ethnicity within (Bosnia), resulted in wars. The world would be a happier place if every ethnicity had its own country Do you oppose the 13th Amendment? Do you oppose democracy in Europe? Do you believe that America was "destroyed" by abolishing slavery or that France was "destroyed" by unseating its king? Was England destroyed by the Magna Carta, or more recently when the last remnants of the monarch's political power were dissolved? None of those things need to change the ethnic or religious balance of a country. Just because the United States is a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country does not mean that the rest of the countries in the world also needs to be like us. You think that the whole world should be like the US - why are you trying to impose your American culture on the world? Aren't you the arrogant one! Israel was founded as a Jewish state, It is a democracy and there is no slavery there. So all of your attempts to divert the discussion are ridiculous. The bottom line is you do object to Israel in principle. Israel with an Arab majority will no longer be Israel and you know it but that is what you want. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 3 14:41:35 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 13:57:01 2014. I suspect there's unconscious racism going on. Along the lines of:Arabs are primitive wogs; you can't be surprised when they go sending off missiles, making women cover themselves, train suicide bombers, use schools to launch missiles, etc. But Israelis are like us. They're Europeans (code for "they're white"). How can they allow these innocent women and children to be killed and maimed? No need to point out the massive illogic of the italicized text, including that Ashkenazim are now a minority in Israel. But I really think a lot of Europeans think that way. PS. Some of this happens in the US too. Why was there so little outrage over Rwanda? Why is there so little outrage over killings in India, Myanmar, and other places? The "no need to be particularly outraged, it's just what you'd expect from those low lifes" view is quite prevalent. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 3 16:06:09 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Gamera on Sun Aug 3 14:20:22 2014. The principle on which a country was founded is absolutely irrelevant.Since you don't seem to understand it and haven't provided any actual reasons for opposing it, I guess this statement stands. However, if you'd like to explain why our societies must be constrained by the ignorance of long-dead ancestors, be my guest. No it was not. Slavery was NOT the driving force behind the revolution. It's in the Constitution. It was the law until said Constitution was amended, a century later. It was placed in the Constitution to begin with because half of the country refused to be a country if it wasn't and decided to stop being part of the country on the threat of its removal. That makes it a founding principle. Wrong. They were founded based on nationality / culture. Just because they were ruled by kings was incidental. A nation was founded based on nationality? Say what? That the king had a supposed divine right to rule was central to their beliefs. They fought wars over which king had a divine right to rule what. By your own argument, the fact that Israel is inhabited by Jews is incidental. The world would be a happier place if every ethnicity had its own country So you support segregation, then. Huh. Your apartheid utopia would quickly collapse, of course— strict segregation by ethnicity would lead to the resurgence of racism followed by wars and genocide. Basically, the Israel/Palestinian conflict on a global scale. None of those things need to change the ethnic or religious balance of a country. It isn't about the ethnic or religious balance of any countries, it's about your absurd belief that the circumstances of a country's origin must constrain its growth in perpetuity. I named three other countries who abandoned their "founding" principles and asked whether you believed they are now "destroyed." Well? Just because the United States is a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country does not mean that the rest of the countries in the world also needs to be like us. No, but the fact that tribalism is primitive bullshit our species needs to grow out of does mean that every country in the world should be multi-cultural and multi-ethnic. Not so much multi-religious— we should be growing out of that too. You think that the whole world should be like the US - why are you trying to impose your American culture on the world? Aren't you the arrogant one! Oh please, this cultural relativist bullshit is annoying enough coming from some dipwad who actually believes it. Hearing it spewed disingenuously from someone who advocates genocide in the name of Israeli and/or Jewish supremacy is just stupid. I'll just remind you that by your own argument you must approve of the Holocaust. Wouldn't want to arrogantly impose cultural values of freedom and acceptance on Germany now, would we? Israel was founded as a Jewish state Yes, and as I've pointed out, (a) no country has any business privileging one religion over another, and (b) the prejudices of a country's founders should not limit its future growth. It is a democracy and there is no slavery there. So all of your attempts to divert the discussion are ridiculous. OK, so now you're pretending you can't even understand a simple analogy? Come on, this is just ridiculous. Israel with an Arab majority will no longer be Israel... Really now? I'd like to hear your reasoning for that, since France continues to be France without a king. So if the Arabs threaten Israel's existence simply by existing, does that mean you support the extermination of all Arabs in Israel's borders? If they're harmless as long as they aren't a majority, what makes Israel suddenly turn into Notisrael as soon as one more Arab is born? Or does it stay Israel until he grows up on the off chance he dies young? ...and you know it but that is what you want. Well you believe Jews are the Master Race©®™etc and want to exterminate everyone else on the planet and make a big pile of the foreskins of the men you murdered. See, you're not the only one who can make ridiculous statements about what other people believe. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 3 16:06:18 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 13:57:01 2014. Just because you weren't paying attention doesn't mean it didn't happen. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 3 16:06:22 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 3 14:41:35 2014. Why was there so little outrage over Rwanda? Why is there so little outrage over killings in India, Myanmar, and other places?It's not in the news and it's not being done with our weapons. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 3 16:06:26 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 18:52:57 2014. Olog is carved out of pure ignorance. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 3 16:06:29 2014, in response to Re: Why Do Women Support the Palestinian Cause?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 29 14:09:47 2014. Wow. Even on OTChat, I rarely see such a dense concentration of pure wrong. Let's scratch the surface of it.1. You think the Soviet Union was left-wing when, in fact, it was a perfect example of a far right dictatorship. 2. You believe the Soviet Union was left-wing in part because you don't know what that word actually means. 3. You also believe the Soviet Union was left-wing in part because the Soviet Union claimed it was communist and you apparently believe anything Big Government says all while screaming about how it's inherently wrong and evil. 4. Despite believing the Soviet Union to be inherently untrustworthy, you believe their declaration that they're communist because you think the Soviet Union couldn't possibly lie. 5. Being a right-winger, the concept of thinking for yourself about complex issues is completely alien to you— an authority tells you what to believe, and you believe it without question. Because believing exactly as you're told is all you've ever known, you assume the left must do it as well. And so we get this amazing little gem, where you declare that the Soviet Union, who can't be trusted, is left-wing because they say so and they couldn't possibly be lying, therefore everyone on the left must support them because the right considers mindless following to be a virtue and so assumes the left must as well. I've bookmarked this so I can link back to it every time you feel the need to demonstrate your ignorance on what the terms "left" and "right" mean. |
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