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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:41:28 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 23 16:08:54 2014.

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Religion isn't genetic.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:41:37 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 23 13:53:28 2014.

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It doesn't matter how often they do it— the Catholics have done it and presumably will again, at least in theory, while my experience has been that Jews simply don't do it at all.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:41:40 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 23 14:02:24 2014.

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We've met. He seemed like a great guy until something happened. I don't know what; one day, we met on a nostalgia trip and he declared I'd "betrayed" him. I haven't the foggiest idea how or why.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:41:42 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 23 13:39:41 2014.

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I did what now?

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:41:47 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 23 14:06:20 2014.

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I've never claimed to know everything.

I've also never been one to hang out among right wingers at great length, whether they be Jewish, Catholic, Mormon, Pastafarian, or atheists so if some of the nuttier sects of Judaism have some practice of exclusion then I'll take your word for it.

I'd tend to doubt they'd use an English word for it, though.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:44:02 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jul 23 14:12:46 2014.

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I've never known the exceedingly orthodox to use English terms in such an official capacity.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:29:35 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:41:40 2014.

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You damn well do know why. You even mentioned it recently. Go with your gut.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:30:27 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:41:21 2014.

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I mean in terms of how Judaism considers someone born Jewish...

Yrs, please ask him.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 24 07:50:37 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:38:33 2014.

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Good. Most if my questions are serious.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 24 07:54:58 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:38:33 2014.

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Good. Most if my questions are serious.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jul 24 08:38:30 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 20:41:28 2014.

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Religion isn't genetic.

Correct. It's inherited.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jul 24 08:40:08 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 23 15:47:21 2014.

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you can't convert to Judaism.

Ask the Rabbi

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jul 24 08:41:17 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 23 13:21:14 2014.

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I'm probably more closely involved with Judaism than any other religions, and I've certainly never heard the term "excommunicated" used by Jews.

I'd venture to guess that most people "more closely involved with Judaism than any other religions" are clueless about Judaism.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 24 08:43:17 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jul 24 08:38:30 2014.

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+5555555

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 24 08:46:00 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jul 24 08:41:17 2014.

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PWN3D!

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 08:55:33 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 24 08:46:00 2014.

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Six ways to Sunday, too.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 26 13:04:43 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 24 08:46:00 2014.

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QUEEN'D!

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 26 13:04:56 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jul 24 08:41:17 2014.

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Why, because ChicagoMotorman, who isn't actually Jewish himself, claims to know more about it then someone who grew up amidst it?

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 26 13:05:04 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jul 24 08:38:30 2014.

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Incorrect. It's a learned behaviour.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 26 13:05:07 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 24 07:50:37 2014.

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I'll be the judge of that.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 26 13:05:10 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:30:27 2014.

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Well if you ask religions how they determine their own membership, then I'm probably Mormon, since the Mormons like to retroactively have always baptised people by proxy or summat. I probably also belong to a dozen-odd weird cult religions which, due to their size and obscurity, feel the need to use extremely loose definitions of membership. There might be a Christian sect that claims me as well, but I forget the details— something about being saved by good works, so since I'm a good person I'm actually secretly part of their religion even though I think it's ridiculous.

OK, so I emailed both of my parents and haven't gotten a response yet. I did manage to talk to my sister, but she said a bunch of stuff about how Judaism can refer to a religion, an ethnicity, and a cultural background and then went into a long rant about Israel. Since you asked me about "converting" in at least one of your posts, I assume you're talking about the religion in particular, in which case I stand by my previous assessment that no one can be born into a religion, no matter what that religion's own dictates say.

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Nilet on Sat Jul 26 13:05:13 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:29:35 2014.

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You damn well do know why.

What are you, my wife? "You should already know why I'm angry!"

You even mentioned it recently.

OK, so cryptic comments aren't very useful, especially considering how you write your own meaning into things that no one else could possibly understand.

Go with your gut.

Sorry, it's busy absorbing caffeine. Why don't you just tell me?

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Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 26 16:31:03 2014, in response to Re: These self hating Jews should all be excommunicated, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 24 07:54:58 2014.

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One out of 500!!!!

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