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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 22 21:06:38 2014 The numbers are not finalized as yet as the various reports show but approximately 8 people were killed and 44 shot over Easter weekend. This would be horrific if it were for the entire nation. It would be worse if it were in one state. But its unspeakable because it occurred in one city - the city with the toughest gun control laws in the nation - the city of Rahm Emanuel and barack obama - the democratic city of Chicago. Perhaps taking guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens was not such a great idea.CBS News Link Daily News link |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Apr 22 23:53:52 2014, in response to Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 22 21:06:38 2014. How many were shot and killed in the Democratic city if Bill deBlasio over the same period? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 01:12:34 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by italianstallion on Tue Apr 22 23:53:52 2014. Nice try counselor. I guess all those shot in Chicago don't count for anything then. I guess that's the Democratic way. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 23 01:54:10 2014, in response to Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 22 21:06:38 2014. Oh yes. Rahmbo's only response is for the shooters to "take it somewhere else", which is a disgrace. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 02:17:32 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 23 01:54:10 2014. Disgrace but fitting for Chicago |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 23 02:25:11 2014, in response to Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 22 21:06:38 2014. Tampa had a 2x drive-by shooting too. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 05:50:55 2014, in response to Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 22 21:06:38 2014. There were fewer murders in Chicago in 2013 than in any year since 1965. It only seems that every single one has become national news since 2009. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 23 05:56:06 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 05:50:55 2014. This!There's only one thing the conservatard bandwagon hates more than black people - the "Jews that enabled them." Wish folks would realize that racism and antisemitism are the SAME monster. :( |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Apr 23 06:39:17 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 05:50:55 2014. There were fewer murders in Chicago in 2013 than in any year since 1965.God bless Barack Obama. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 23 07:04:53 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by italianstallion on Tue Apr 22 23:53:52 2014. If you want to use it that way it can't be used the other.....and you can't use it both ways.Its more like the gun ownership has no effect based on your comment. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Apr 23 07:46:54 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 23 05:56:06 2014. What are you rambling on about now? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 09:22:46 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by italianstallion on Tue Apr 22 23:53:52 2014. You have something say about my hometown? Asshole |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 09:25:54 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Fred G on Wed Apr 23 06:39:17 2014. While his pastor said GD American. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 09:27:42 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 23 01:54:10 2014. Rahm Emanuel is a self hating Jew. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 09:28:50 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 02:17:32 2014. Now you're talking stuff about my hometown. But unfortunatley true. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 09:33:09 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 23 05:56:06 2014. No, it's self hating Jews like Rahm Emanuel who is a traitor to the Jewish people. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 09:37:15 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by italianstallion on Tue Apr 22 23:53:52 2014. What changed from Bloomberg? He was a lifelong Democrat too, that just changed parties to get elected on the coat tails of Guiliani, and then after all the elections where it mattered were done, drop0ped the R designation. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Apr 23 10:03:00 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 09:25:54 2014. Lol! |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Apr 23 10:11:46 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 01:12:34 2014. It's an object lesson on the impact of neighboring states' gun laws. Talk to the CPD. Guns flow into Chicago gangs through 'legal' purchases in Wisconsin and Indiana. NJ and CT are far less liberal with their gun laws and the results show in NY's lack of gun crimes. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 10:27:27 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 09:25:54 2014. Another Jeremiah said, "Prepare war against her, arise and let us go up at noontime; woe is to us for the day has passed, for the shadows of evening are stretched out. Arise and let us go up at night and let us destroy her palaces. For so says the L-rd of Hosts: Cut the trees and cast on Jerusalem a siege mound; that is the city whose sins have been visited upon her, everywhere there is oppression in its midst. As a well lets its water flow, so has she let her evil flow; violence and spoil is heard therein before Me continually; sickness and wounds. Be corrected, O Jerusalem, lest My soul be alienated from you; lest I make you a desolation, a land uninhabited." Sorry, no video. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 10:44:09 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Fred G on Wed Apr 23 06:39:17 2014. More like Bill Clinton and $47 million from the COPS program, Mayor Daley installing surveillance cameras beginning in 2004, and Mayor Emanuel installing more surveillance cameras. The murder rate has been steadily declining since the mid-1990s and has been mostly flat since 2004. 
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Apr 23 10:53:13 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 10:44:09 2014. Thanks. Your info is complete and timely as usual.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 23 10:53:37 2014, in response to Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 22 21:06:38 2014. Actually, while admittedly very strict, Chicago does not have the "toughest gun laws in the nation"--that distinction belongs to New York City, as it has since the late 1970s. Today, mere possession of a gun that's not registered in NYC--regardless of whether it's legally owned anywhere else--will get you 3 1/2 years in prison, period. Tourists get caught carrying their gums around the city like this all the time. Guns are everywhere.Is there really a legitimate reason for there to be 310 million nonmilitary firearms floating around in this country? That's almost one gun for every individual now living in the United States. What invading army (with, presumably, hundreds of millions of soldiers) are we expecting to defend against? It's ludicrous, and gun proliferation at these levels is the cause of all the gun violence, not gun control laws... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 12:15:31 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 23 05:56:06 2014. What the fuck are you babbling about, dan lawrence? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 12:18:07 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by italianstallion on Tue Apr 22 23:53:52 2014. By the way, counselor, word was out on social media about heavy police presence in Times Square so the gang initiation violence moved to Coney Island where there were numerous stabbings, at least one being fatal. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 23 13:09:08 2014, in response to Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 22 21:06:38 2014. maybe you've forgotten that Obama is all for GUN control to rid the streets of un-licenced guns. i am sure it must of slipped your mind somehow. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 13:18:56 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by WillD on Wed Apr 23 10:11:46 2014. I know. Blame the gun and not the perpetrators. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 13:19:54 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Fred G on Wed Apr 23 10:03:00 2014. It's funny huh? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 13:21:39 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 10:27:27 2014. So in other words, you do agree that this is really the trinity church of hell? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 13:28:59 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 13:21:39 2014. So in other words, you do agree that this is really the trinity church of hell?No. And the quote was from a different Jeremiah, not Rev. Wright. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 13:31:24 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 23 13:18:56 2014. Of course. The extremists like will do not get it. Criminals are not impacted by gun laws. They will still have them. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 13:36:37 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 13:31:24 2014. Criminals are not impacted by gun laws. They will still have them.Canada has a comparable violent crime rate to the US. Yet it has half the murders. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 13:52:41 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 13:36:37 2014. You continue to say that but I don't understand the point. Perhaps canadians are just poor shots. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 14:07:07 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 13:52:41 2014. Perhaps canadians are just poor shots.Isn't it more likely that their lesser access to guns means they are just less able to kill people effectively and so half the time they just end up beating the crap out of them or stabbing them non-fatally? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 23 14:40:40 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 13:31:24 2014. You have once again failed to respond to a valid question. You have no answer. If Chicago has so many more murders per capita than NY, despite equivalent gun laws, it obviously says something about Chicago, not about gun laws. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 23 14:41:54 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 23 07:04:53 2014. You miss the point. Gun laws can only do so much, especially if neighboring states have lax laws. Without Chicago's laws, chances are there'd be even more murders. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 23 14:42:35 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 12:18:07 2014. But no gun deaths. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 23 14:45:56 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 23 10:53:37 2014. IAWTP. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 23 14:46:33 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 05:50:55 2014. Crickets from Brain Dead. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:09:55 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 23 14:40:40 2014. It's also not saying something about "gun laws" in New York either, in reverse. You can't have it both ways. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 16:19:36 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:09:55 2014. It's also not saying something about "gun laws" in New York either, in reverse. You can't have it both ways.It says more about gun laws in the Greater New York and Chicago areas than about gun laws in New York or Chicago. Indiana is really close to the bad parts of Chicago. 
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:21:41 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 16:19:36 2014. All that says is a grading based on someone's perceived "goodness" of a states gun laws. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 16:25:36 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 23 16:19:36 2014. Mostly this makes sense. The more rural a state is, the more guns are part of everyday life, and the more people die from guns. Not much different from more people being killed by cars in those states.But Texas is interesting. A very urban and suburban state, but I guess people think they're cowboys. A few other outliers as well with more gun deaths than explainable by my theory, like NC, IN, FL. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 23 17:42:36 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:21:41 2014. No, it's a hard and fast number - death rates - not some perception. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 23 18:09:43 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Dave on Wed Apr 23 07:46:54 2014. Well then ... I suppose if racism is OK, so is antisemitism. :-\ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 23 18:10:17 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 12:15:31 2014. Nothing of any concern to you, go back to hating ... it's good for you. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 23 18:31:21 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 09:37:15 2014. Republicans took him in and put their brand on him. They COULD have said no. Acquisitions and rebrandings are a normal part of Ferengi life. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 23 18:34:45 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 23 14:07:07 2014. There are more guns per capita and more gun clubs in Canada than down here. The difference is that Canadians aren't idiots and know how to handle their guns safely. There are rules, and they follow them.
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 19:25:12 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 23 16:09:55 2014. He is saying that gun laws work in New York and do not work in Chicago. That's pretty plain enough. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 23 19:27:10 2014, in response to Re: Easter Weekend Shooting Rampage, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 23 18:10:17 2014. It's not about hate. It's all about you are babbling like dan lawrence's fucking red headed step child. Try to keep up with the conversation, dullard. |
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