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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 12:34:04 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 10:04:49 2014. If you're not familiar with the history of the region before 1967, you really know so little about it that you shouldn't comment about it at all. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 12:34:46 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 10:04:49 2014. You could also Google it yourself. But I'll indulge you this time, here you go.If the Arabs were truly interested in creating a State of Palestine, they had a pretty good opportunity during those years. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 12:42:14 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 12:32:16 2014. You're a perfect example of this. Years worth of posts prove it.Oh please. You're the one claiming my dietary choices are "obnoxious and offensive." |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 12:42:56 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 12:34:04 2014. What does the history of the region before 1967 have to do with what is physically happening in it now? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 12:52:12 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 12:42:56 2014. This post speaks for itself. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 17 12:54:04 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Apr 17 11:40:19 2014. when Israel conquered East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, wise people knew that the world powers would never be comfortable with Israel's victory, that they would never allow Jews to control the world's most holy places. And ever since 1967, the world has been trying to undermine Israel's right to those lands, indeed, to undermine its continuing existenceConsider that things started to go wrong right after Camp David. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 13:00:22 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 12:52:12 2014. Did you support or oppose Vietnam? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 13:24:59 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 16 22:52:05 2014. But the "Palestinians" still think they have the right to the land "from the river to the sea".As well as WMATAGMOAGH. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 13:26:44 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 12:34:46 2014. It didn't open. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 13:29:47 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 12:34:46 2014. Who said anything about a state of Palestine?As long as Israel is willing to maintain a secular government and right to travel, they can have the whole Middle East for all I care— as long as they don't maintain walled-off ghettos. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 17 13:31:06 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 13:24:59 2014. Will he really stand for being either uprooted or slaughtered by the "Palestinians"? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 13:32:42 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 17 13:31:06 2014. No, he loves them, and wants to be "tolerant". |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Apr 17 13:39:24 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 13:32:42 2014. He will be very tolerant when he is dead. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 13:50:29 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Apr 17 13:39:24 2014. His hero is probably Simon Weisenthal. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 13:53:23 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 13:50:29 2014. What did Vancier say about Wiesenthal? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 14:17:00 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 13:53:23 2014. I don't know. I know that Weisenthal supports obama. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Apr 17 14:39:24 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 17 12:54:04 2014. Camp David? How about Zionism is Racism in 1975? That was before Camp David. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 14:59:19 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 14:17:00 2014. Wiesenthal died in 2005. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 15:00:43 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Apr 17 14:39:24 2014. You can thank the USSR for that one. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 17 15:10:31 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Apr 17 14:39:24 2014. Yes, thanks to Kurt Waldheim too.But Israel's borders didn't start to shrink until Camp David. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 15:10:51 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 14:59:19 2014. I'm sorry. I take it back. It was the proprietors of the Wiesenthal Center that support obama. My bad. RIP. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 15:29:32 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 12:42:14 2014. I don't care what you eat. Posting on Erev Passover that you are eating a bacon cheeseburger on matza after making it very clear you don't think Israel has a right to exist as a secure, Jewish state is just senseless. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 15:30:30 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 12:42:56 2014. You seem to care a lot about the Palestinian presence in the region for the thousands of years preceding 1967, but wish to wash over the Jewish presence in the region for the same period of time. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 15:39:28 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 13:24:59 2014. Negative... |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 15:44:46 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 13:29:47 2014. How would you feel if after New Jersey fired rockets on Manhattan if the State of New York responded by putting a giant wall along the Hudson River shoreline and cut off access through the Lincoln Tunnel, Holland Tunnel, and GWB?I'm willing to bet you've never had to take shelter following an air raid siren, and that you have no idea what it is like to have to drop everything you are doing at that moment and run to the designated safe place in the building you are in. Or as you walk down the street, you are looking around at each building or for signs directing you to the nearest shelter so if a siren goes off, you've already decided where to go. Or have an app on your smartphone that tells you where the nearest shelter is and how far you need to run to get there. And that was in Jerusalem. Imagine what life for my cousins in Ashkelon is like. Israel protects its citizens, the same way you would want your government to if you were in s similar situation. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:18:46 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 15:29:32 2014. I don't care what you eat.Then why have you been throwing a screaming fit that I'm "oppressing" you by not following your preferred diet? ...after making it very clear you don't think Israel has a right to exist as a secure, Jewish state is just senseless. Actually, I never said that. That's a lie you just made up. I'm not feeling particularly charitable at the moment, so I'll assume it's because you think anybody who doesn't favour genocide against anybody of Arab descent must necessarily demand the destruction of Israel. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:20:56 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 15:30:30 2014. You seem to be making a lot of assumptions with absolutely no basis whatsoever.I don't care which people of which ethnicity live where. I don't care what governments control what as long as they're secular and don't oppress anybody. In the future, please confine your arguments to the positions I actually believe and not the positions you randomly assume I believe based on your own bigotry. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:24:14 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:18:46 2014. I never said you had to keep a Kosher diet, no one here has. It's offensive to flaunt your choices in front of others the way you did on Monday, the same way it would be really offensive if you set up shop selling food on the street outside a synagogue on Yom Kippur if you weren't there doing that on a regulat basis other days of the year. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:26:36 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:20:56 2014. I don't care which people of which ethnicity live where. I don't care what governments control what as long as they're secular and don't oppress anybody.Then you should support the State of Israel and not the terrorists from Hamas who run Gaza and Abu Mazen who is now in the 10th year of his 4 year term. And I'm not making any assumptions as long as you keep posting. What you think is quite clear to just about everyone here except you. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:30:37 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 15:44:46 2014. Funny thing, that. I remember 9/11 and the fact that the immediate response was to start rounding up anyone of the "wrong" ancestry and suspend basic political freedoms, then implement "security" policies more intended to establish authoritarianism than anything else.If Israel "protects" its citizens in anywhere near the same way America does, then you have no business defending it. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:36:54 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:30:37 2014. Israel's security measures and homeland security is far more effective than anything that you've seen in the US. Just compare the security checks at Ben Gurion Airport to the circuses run by the TSA. And if you didn't know each time you walked to the supermarket or got on a bus if you'd come home alive, you'd start to support the Israeli approach to terrorism, too. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:39:00 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:24:14 2014. It's offensive to flaunt your choices in front of others the way you did on Monday...So it would be equally offensive for you to mention that you're observing Passover? Or that you're attending a Seder? ...the same way it would be really offensive if you set up shop selling food on the street outside a synagogue on Yom Kippur if you weren't there doing that on a regulat basis other days of the year. If I set up shop because there are always plenty of people on that street who are not observant Jews and this is the first day I have off, would that be offensive? The problem is that you keep clinging to the insistence that the entire world revolves around you and your rituals. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:42:27 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:26:36 2014. Then you should support the State of Israel...Are you, perhaps, unaware that there is a range of opinions beyond "blindly support everything they do" and "believe they shouldn't exist at all?" And I'm not making any assumptions as long as you keep posting. That's a hoot. You've made quite a few. What you think is quite clear to just about everyone here except you. So you're telling me that you know what I believe better than I do? And you fail to notice the logical incoherence of this position? If it's so obvious, then reveal. What, exactly, do I believe? I'll make sure to keep my red correcting pen handy. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 16:45:09 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 15:39:28 2014. Negative? |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:51:34 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:36:54 2014. I've heard all the anecdotes about how effective Israeli security is— and I've also heard the stories of random people being physically strip-searched and laptops being destroyed on the assumption that they're bombs. Not to mention the IDF soldiers advocating genocide.When all of America panicked after 9/11, I was one of the relatively few to remain rational (despite being all of 14 at the time) so I'm inclined to think I can tolerate a few risks without rushing to give up basic freedoms in the name of safety. And that's assuming I'm not one of the people in the "wrong" demographic who "have" to be locked up without charges or trial in the name of safety. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:52:10 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:39:00 2014. So it would be equally offensive for you to mention that you're observing Passover? Or that you're attending a Seder?No. You posted you were celebrating Passover by eating a bacon cheeseburger on matza to make a point about how you feel about religious rituals. Some things are better unsaid, you don't seem to get that. If I set up shop because there are always plenty of people on that street who are not observant Jews and this is the first day I have off, would that be offensive? You seem to not comprehend what I write. If that was the ONLY day you set up there, it would be a problem. If you did it on a regular basis, it would be fine. See the difference? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:54:05 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:42:27 2014. Are you, perhaps, unaware that there is a range of opinions beyond "blindly support everything they do" and "believe they shouldn't exist at all?"I'm very aware, I'm accused of it constantly by people both on the extreme left and extreme right here. But I'm also telling you that you need to do more than say you object to Israel's policies without noting why they might exist, what the consequences of changing them might be, and/or coming up with a better solution. Taking down the security fence from the West Bank and opening Gaza to unrestricted trade have severe consequences for Israel. (It also seems that you don't care that Egypt also blockades Gaza.) |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:55:58 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 16:51:34 2014. Not to mention the IDF soldiers advocating genocide.Care to provide a source on that one? The IDF doesn't tolerate that. I've also heard the stories of random people being physically strip-searched and laptops being destroyed on the assumption that they're bombs. Life sucks sometimes. Your rights as an American also don't mean jack shit the moment you aren't in the US anymore. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 17:03:22 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:52:10 2014. No. You posted you were celebrating Passover by eating a bacon cheeseburger on matza to make a point about how you feel about religious rituals.No. I said I was eating a bacon cheeseburger on a regular bun while thinking about matzoh to indicate how far removed I was from actually intending to observe Passover. I used the word "celebrate" for the irony value. Then you arbitrarily decided that if I used the word "celebrate" it must, necessarily, imply that I was intending to follow the rituals associated with Passover with the goal of conducting a religious ceremony, and intentionally doing so in the "wrong" fashion for the sole purpose of mocking the ceremony and the religion that called for it. Take a peak at the "Nilogic" thread where a few posters complained I was being irrational for assuming the phrase "I support the verdict" implied the statement "I believe the verdict was correctly rendered on the facts of the case." Because your, erm, unorthodox interpretation of the word "celebrate" is making that look decidedly ironic right now. You seem to not comprehend what I write. If that was the ONLY day you set up there, it would be a problem. If you did it on a regular basis, it would be fine. See the difference? You don't seem to comprehend what I write. If the street outside the synagogue has plenty of foot traffic other than the patrons of said synagogue, and I set up on Yom Kippur because it's a holiday and I have the day off, then it's not a problem at all— it's me using what free time I have in the manner in which I choose, and it's none of your business. If you claim it's a "problem" for me to sell food to people who want to buy it simply because you are fasting, then you are the one being offensive. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 17:05:01 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:54:05 2014. I'm very aware, I'm accused of it constantly by people both on the extreme left and extreme right here.Doesn't stop you from assuming that I'm calling for Israel's destruction. (It also seems that you don't care that Egypt also blockades Gaza.) What did I tell you about assuming that denouncing one wrong necessarily implies endorsement of an unrelated wrong? |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 17:17:55 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 16:55:58 2014. Care to provide a source on that one? The IDF doesn't tolerate that.Not offhand. I don't remember every news article I read. Life sucks sometimes. Your rights as an American also don't mean jack shit the moment you aren't in the US anymore. (a) They're human rights not unique to America. (b) You're the one defending Israel's security practices as so wonderful and effective. If that's what Israeli security entails, and is dismissed with "life sometimes sucks," then you can keep it. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 17:23:01 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 17:05:01 2014. Doesn't stop you from assuming that I'm calling for Israel's destruction.This post certainly doesn't give much credence to that statement. What did I tell you about assuming that denouncing one wrong necessarily implies endorsement of an unrelated wrong? Then why don't you speak out it as vehemently as you speak out against Israeli policies vis a vis Gaza? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 17 17:24:07 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 12:42:56 2014. Uh, maybe everything??? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Apr 17 17:28:56 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 17:17:55 2014. Israeli security for me doesn't entail being strip searched at the airport because I am not suspicious. People who are suspicious have to jump through more hurdles so to speak before getting on a plane. THIW. I have a close family friend who was strip searched at Ben Gurion Airport the last time she came to visit me on her flight back towards the US. She bought one way tickets from Athens to Tel Aviv, Tel Aviv to Toronto, and Toronto to Washington, because it was cheaper than buying a single round trip from DC to Athens. She was also flying on a brand new passport because her last one, which had the Israeli stamps from her previous visit, was about to expire. She said she was treated respectfully and felt far better about the experience than she does when she goes through TSA checkpoints in the US. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 17 17:41:32 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 17 17:24:07 2014. Or at least almost everything. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 17 19:45:10 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 12:42:56 2014. OMGWhat intelligent, educated person spouts opinions without knowing a good deal about the subject? Seems to me you have a problem understanding the context of the situation. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 20:10:24 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 15:10:51 2014. Thanks for clearing it up. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 20:18:58 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 17 17:03:22 2014. It would be a problem if you called it "Yom Kippur Food Stand," asshole. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 17 21:14:32 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 17 20:10:24 2014. I got him confused with Elie Wiesel, who I believe is still alive. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 18 08:42:50 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by AlM on Thu Apr 17 17:41:32 2014. Would you try to argue that I can't denounce a murder unless I was familiar with the lives of both murderer and victim and thus entirely understood the murderer's motive? |
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