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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 11:02:45 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 10:54:41 2014. Why don't you just admit you're wrong?Without insufficient evidence to convict him, an accused criminal is acquitted. Without insufficient evidence, a property line cannot be contested. Without insufficient evidence, you can't disprove my claim. Your argument is built on "this just can't be the first" rather than any real evidence. Just like you claimed AlM was wrong about what was being taught in school without you actually knowing what was taught in school, only because you felt it couldn't be true because his experience was years ago. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 11:04:45 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 11:02:45 2014. I am NOT wrong.Not only can we not find anything that proves JayZee's statement false, we can't even find anything that actually says it's true! NO news organization has made that claim (as of yet), no reliable blogs have (that we know of), yet because one person, JayZee says it (based on some guidance counselor with the William Floyd School District, a marginal district besides) says she personally hasn't seen it in her 15 years there. Yeah, that makes so much sense. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 11:11:47 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 11:04:45 2014. I base my claim on personal Google searches.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 11:15:59 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 11:11:47 2014. On what did your google searches come up with TROLL? ONLY one person said this was the first time (JayZee), NOWHERE else.Stop insulting intelligence, TROLL |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 11:32:39 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 11:15:59 2014. LOL so your evidence consists of name calling now. Why don't you just go full Olog?Look I even found one other one for you. Sort of In the world of academia, Mr. Enin is a “rockstar” said Stephen Friedfeld, co-founder of AcceptU, a college admissions counseling group. ”He sounds like a dream student,” Mr. Friedfeld said. Mr. Friedfeld also said it is rare for a student to get into all eight Ivy League schools and that he only knew one other person who had achieved this, a family friend* AcceptU advises students against applying to all eight Ivy League schools, rather recommending students apply to a mix of top schools as well as safety or match schools – schools a student is likely to be accepted to. I kept looking to disprove my claim even while making it. You wouldn't even look but instead went into blowhard mode. your pal, Fred *yeah right, 'family friend'. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 11:54:37 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 11:32:39 2014. This new evidence even disproves JayZee even more. The "family friend" is better than some guidance councellor at William Floyd School District where about 70% of students don't even graduate, much less go off to college, said she hadn't seen it in her 15 years there.It's okay Fred, from now on, we will just accept any statement by one person here as fact, without any sort of documentation. Better yet, not only no documentation to the contrary, no other statement of that it was the first. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 3 11:55:52 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 11:02:08 2014. I never said no student has ever been accepted to all 8 Ivies, "based on some guidance counselor". I said it because it is a FACT.IvyWise, a consulting firm specializing in helping kids get into Ivy League schools, says there is no record before now of anyone applying--and being accepted by--EVERY Ivy League college. They point out that most students seeking admission at such schools, only apply to one or two, not ALL of them. I've been an adjunct at a couple of NYC-area universities, and I've never, ever heard of a student being picked up by all 8 Ivies. Nor has the Chancellor of CUNY, who said as much on WNYE the other day. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 11:57:25 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 11:32:39 2014. Oh, and by the way Fred, it's not up to ME to google or anyone else to Prove JayZee's statement true, it's up to him to provide proof of a statement he's passing off as "fact" when questioned on it.He should know that as a "journalist". Or would he rather have a statement he put in an article be an assumption rather than a fact? |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 11:58:53 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 11:54:37 2014. No Chris, you want us to accept any statement YOU make without having to back it up.I've written a note to Yale University via Facebook, inquiring into this. Hi, like many, I was delighted to hear of that fellow who was accepted by all 8 Ivy League schools and it made me curious. I couldn't find any evidence of it, but has that ever happened before? I'm sure it's extremely rare but do you know if it's happened or is Mr. Enin the first? Thanks, Fred Guenther PS I hear he favors Yale. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 12:02:39 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 11:57:25 2014. It's up to you to do some research if you want to dispute a claim. You claimed it wasn't true and relied on being an internet blowhard rather than finding some facts to back up your claim. It's one thing to question, but another to cry false.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 12:02:42 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 3 11:55:52 2014. And again, there was no documentation for this. Do you have something to back up these statements? That's all what was being asked for. I said from the beginning, it "very well might be true", or not, as there was no source that can say this was true or false.And let's not forget Fred's source: "Mr. Friedfeld also said it is rare for a student to get into all eight Ivy League schools and that he only knew one other person who had achieved this, a family friend* AcceptU advises students against applying to all eight Ivy League schools, rather recommending students apply to a mix of top schools as well as safety or match schools – schools a student is likely to be accepted to." "Mr Friedfeld" said it was rare, not non existent. In fact he claims "to have known someone" who has done it. Okay, so that's about as good a source as the "William Floyd Guidance Counselor", but just the same, it's more to the contrary, than you had provided to prove it. When in doubt, it's better to say it's "rare", rather than say it's "the first", as we really don't know, and no where is that stated. And yes, let's not forget that applying to all of them is rare in and of itself, if it was common for people to do that, we may see it more often. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 12:05:05 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 11:58:53 2014. No Chris, you want us to accept any statement YOU make without having to back it up.Not at all. Where have I made a statement here for or against? I have nothing to back up, as I am JUST asking FOR back up information. I NEVER claimed it wasn't the first, just that we have no documentation that it is. I said FROM THE BEGINNING that it very well may be the first, but where is the documentation? That's not up to me to provide, that's for the person making the claim to provide. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 12:10:48 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 12:02:39 2014. I NEVER claimed it wasn't true, as you are accusing me of. I DID claim it very well may be true, but there's no documentation that claims it is. I said I couldn't find another case, but that does NOT mean others don't exist. It's not up to me to prove a statement true, it's up to the person making the claim to do so.And no, I NEVER claimed FALSE. I asked for proof. All I said is that I have not seen it in any story that it was the first. The only one claiming that at the time was JayZee. No other spot. I said it very well may be true, but we haven't seen that printed ANYWHERE. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 12:20:33 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 12:10:48 2014. Sorry Chris but you made an argument and even after being shown there was no evidence of this happening, you still kept arguing. Now you're hanging onto some hearsay that somebody else had to find for you. I'd say you're being intellectually dishonest here.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 12:26:51 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 12:20:33 2014. Show me the post where I claimed it wasn't true.I DID however say there was no place that was stated (as of yet). I made that very clear. I was asking for evidence of the claim. It's not up to me to provide such evidence FOR the person making the claim. If I had in fact claimed it was false (which I did not), then I would have had to provide proof of such. Asking for proof does not mean I don't agree. I said it may be true...or not, but there's no documentation of such. None of that is false. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 12:47:57 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 12:26:51 2014. LOL yeah right.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 3 13:18:52 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 12:02:39 2014. Fred, he didn't claim it wasn't true. He merely pointed out that JayZeeBMT posted something as fact without providing any sources or supporting evidence. He also pointed out that no article he had read on the matter had made the same claim. He admitted several times that there was no known evidence either way and thus no one could make either claim at this time.Personally, it is my opinion at this time that it would be impossible to prove how many times this has previously happened unless all the Ivy League schools share their admissions selections with each other and/or a third party. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 13:33:49 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 12:47:57 2014. Show me where I claimed otherwise. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 13:37:52 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 3 13:18:52 2014. Exactly.And JayZee does this all the time. Says a statement, and then just assumes everyone should believe it. Without backing it up. All he had to say was "okay, it may or may not be the first time, but it surely is rare". And that's a fact. Pushing false information (or more correctly, unsubstantiated information), is just plain wrong. Especially if you are a journalist. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 14:20:13 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 3 13:18:52 2014. I see your point and I do see Chris' point but I feel that if it had occurred it would be prominently displayed, and not because of school records but because the applicant would have made a big noise about it. I'll concede that it's not absolute but I'm still stubbornly leaning in that direction. Chris and I do bicker but it's all good.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 3 14:46:18 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 14:20:13 2014. I agree that the fact that no one had piped up to toot their own horn as soon as this was announced*, as well as as the fact that no old articles making any similar claims were found, makes it somewhat likely that this is the first time such a feat has been publicly announced. I also think it is entirely possible this has happened in the past but was kept relatively private.*ignoring the link you recently posted |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 15:28:34 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 11:54:37 2014. That's a terrible school district.Suffolk County sure has it's problems. I know people in that county and feel bad for them. Worry about them. It's a rough county. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 15:46:21 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 15:28:34 2014. ????What does that have to do with Suffolk County, most of the others are good, as the stats show right in that link. William Floyd being one of the not so great ones. William Floyd encompasses Mastic, Shirley, Mastic Beach, and part of Moriches. Aside from Moriches, that is a lower income area. It's better than some of the other areas, as it's lower income blue color working area, but just the same, the lower the income, the worser the school district, which correlates most of the not so great graduation stats on that list. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 15:48:21 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 15:46:21 2014. Here's the link again, I thought you were responding to my post where I posted the link for the school districts:http://schools.newsday.com/long-island/graduates/gradrate/ |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Apr 3 15:48:43 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 15:28:34 2014. Suffolk County sure has it's problems. I know people in that county and feel bad for them. Worry about them. It's a rough county.It sure is. I keep praying that Amanda, wherever she ends up, is able to overcome the trauma she suffered over in that war zone and once again become a functioning member of society. There were shootings last night in Centereach and Happauge, probably gang spillover from Brentwood based on initial forensic and ballistic evidence. I can no longer access Newsday or the Long Island Press. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 16:00:13 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Apr 3 15:48:43 2014. I keep praying that AmandaYou must mean that metaphorically, because liberal Democrats don't really pray. They're atheists or agnostics most of the time. A Godless bunch you are. There were shootings last night in Centereach and Happauge, probably gang spillover from Brentwood based on initial forensic and ballistic evidence. I can no longer access Newsday or the Long Island Press. And that's my point but I was attacked by GP38Chris who beat JayZeeBMT in his own #hatethread. LongIslandPress just went back up and you should be able to access it. They seem to be ignoring the 7-11 stabbing in Central Islip. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 3 16:07:06 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 16:00:13 2014. And that's my point but I was attacked by GP38Chris who beat JayZeeBMT in his own #hatethread.Hahahaha. I didn't attack, but pointed out that William Floyd's stats were not typical, but it's pretty easy to pick which are worse than William Floyd's by picking the not so great neighborhoods like Brentwood, Wyandanch, Central Islip, etc. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Apr 3 16:11:12 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 16:00:13 2014. Thanks. Maybe the magical 5301 Fishbowl has some information about the Central Islip incident. The gunshots and machete stabbings are going to come fast and furious up here this summer and I for one intend to be in the thick of things. Ironically, I have Detroit, Buffalo, and Montego Bay layovers next week. The chances of me escaping those war zones unscathed is somewhere south of probable. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 16:20:23 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Apr 3 16:11:12 2014. he won't know.sadly this story is dead. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Apr 3 16:26:36 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 16:20:23 2014. Yeah, people here just don't care until it is too late and it was too late a long time ago. The whole thing is bewildering. It just makes me sick. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 17:15:27 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Apr 3 16:26:36 2014. I remember it before the machete stabbings. You could get egg in your beer.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 3 17:20:46 2014, in response to Re: Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 3 14:46:18 2014. It could be, as the Ivy League is ancient and why couldn't someone from 100 years ago be accepted in all schools. Could happen :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 12 08:23:53 2025, in response to Long Island Teen Accepted By All Eight Ivy-League Schools, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Apr 1 18:06:26 2014. Wonder what happened to this person, and hopefully he was not indoctrinated by the Hamas cheerleaders at these centers of indoctrination. |
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