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Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 13 04:02:26 2013

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Look at the calendar and then compare Shemot 12:2.

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Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 13 05:27:52 2013, in response to Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 13 04:02:26 2013.

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No it wasn't.

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Yesterday was not supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Mar 13 07:44:58 2013, in response to Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 13 04:02:26 2013.

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Look at the calendar and then compare Shemot 12:2.

And Bamidbar 29:1.

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Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Mar 13 07:48:54 2013, in response to Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Mar 13 05:27:52 2013.

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Rosh Hashanah 8a explains, "For R. Zeira said [that Tishrei is considered the New Year for years in relation] to the seasons. And this [opinion of R. Zeira] is [in consonance with the view of] R. Eliezer, who said that the world was created in Tishrei." In fact, the rabbis focused particularly on the creation of human beings, without whose perceptive ability the physical creation would go unappreciated.

I don't know if there is any Talmudic backup to this, but I once heard a drash that yom hashisi is the only day of creation with a definite article because it's a reference to "the 6th" of Sivan.

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Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Mar 13 15:14:15 2013, in response to Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 13 04:02:26 2013.

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The Persian New Year is March 20th
The Spring Festival, or Asian New year is in February

Islamic New Year is Novemberish
Diwali is in the fall however
Ethiopia fall as well
and the actual Egyptians, the Coptics

I'm always curious why the new year is in the fall and not the spring. The spring feels like a time of beginning to me.
Of course I didn't include the ridiculous western make no sense jan 1st new year.


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Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 13 15:30:49 2013, in response to Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Mar 13 15:14:15 2013.

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I'm always curious why the new year is in the fall and not the spring. The spring feels like a time of beginning to me

Well, it wasn't Elohim that changed it; that's all you have to know. Today is Nisan 2, the second day of the new year.

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Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 13 17:06:18 2013, in response to Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Mar 13 15:14:15 2013.

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Islamic New Year is Novemberish

TNHIW

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Re: Yesterday was not supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Thu Mar 14 11:02:47 2013, in response to Yesterday was not supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Mar 13 07:44:58 2013.

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And Bereshith 8.13.

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Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 14 13:58:39 2013, in response to Yesterday was not supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Mar 13 07:44:58 2013.

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That verse does not mark it as the first of the year. It very clearly calls it the seventh month. You trying to be heretical?

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Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Mar 14 14:41:16 2013, in response to Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 14 13:58:39 2013.

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That verse does not mark it as the first of the year. It very clearly calls it the seventh month.

Exactly. It does mark the first day of the month of Tishrei as Yom Teruah. There is no biblically ordained holiday of "Rosh Hashana;" that name didn't come into existence until Hillel set the calendar around the agricultural year some two millennia later.

Nice preamble to your annual conflation of the korban pesach and Chag Hamatzos.

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Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Mar 14 16:45:42 2013, in response to Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Mar 13 07:48:54 2013.

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I haven't heard that, I think the ones I've heard put the first day of creation 6 days before the first of Tishrei.

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Re: Today Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 1 16:15:46 2014, in response to Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 13 04:02:26 2013.

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Wonder why nobody agrees based on the Torah.

Calendar

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Re: Today Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 1 17:27:50 2014, in response to Re: Today Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 1 16:15:46 2014.

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FALSE!

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Re: Today Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Dave on Tue Apr 1 18:01:59 2014, in response to Re: Today Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 1 16:15:46 2014.

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Why do you insist on posting about topics where you have not knowledgeable?

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Re: Today Rosh Hashanah

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 1 18:27:46 2014, in response to Re: Today Rosh Hashanah, posted by Dave on Tue Apr 1 18:01:59 2014.

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It's a requirement here. OTchat is an exercise club for OCD, and it's necessary to walk them every day. :)

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Re: Today Rosh Hashanah

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 1 18:44:00 2014, in response to Re: Today Rosh Hashanah, posted by Dave on Tue Apr 1 18:01:59 2014.

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Excellent question and post.

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Re: Today Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Dave on Tue Apr 1 20:46:44 2014, in response to Re: Today Rosh Hashanah, posted by Dave on Tue Apr 1 18:01:59 2014.

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Terrible grammar!

Should have read "where you have no knowledge."

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Re: Today Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 1 21:48:48 2014, in response to Re: Today Rosh Hashanah, posted by Dave on Tue Apr 1 18:01:59 2014.

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The only knowledge that anyone's supposed to have on this subject is out of that source I linked to. Otherwise, things get like the RCC.

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Re: Today Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 1 21:54:58 2014, in response to Re: Today Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 1 21:48:48 2014.

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FALSE! Most Jews aren't Karaïtes.

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Re: Today Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Dave on Wed Apr 2 07:45:09 2014, in response to Re: Today Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 1 21:48:48 2014.

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Once again, you show know nothing about the topic.

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Re: Today Rosh Hashanah

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 2 12:47:51 2014, in response to Re: Today Rosh Hashanah, posted by Dave on Tue Apr 1 20:46:44 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Terrible grammar!

Should have read "where you have no knowledge."


I thought it was intentional, since "Today Rosh Hashana" is also terrible grammar. :)

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Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by Dand124 on Mon Dec 1 15:51:42 2014, in response to Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 13 04:02:26 2013.

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dand124 is an antisemite

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 15:55:51 2014, in response to Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by Dand124 on Mon Dec 1 15:51:42 2014.

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You trying to compare this to salaam's open flouting of the Islamic calendar? If so, you're a complete fool and don't know what you're doing. The Hebrew calendar stays the same. Ask the Karaite Jews, you bigot.

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Re: dand124 is an antisemite

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 1 16:55:09 2014, in response to dand124 is an antisemite, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 1 15:55:51 2014.

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??
wtf

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When does Olog Hashanah start this year?

Posted by dAnd124 on Fri Mar 13 19:28:21 2015, in response to Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 13 04:02:26 2013.

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should be sometime soon.

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Re: When will dand124 see a shrink for his stalking problem?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 19:37:07 2015, in response to When does Olog Hashanah start this year?, posted by dAnd124 on Fri Mar 13 19:28:21 2015.

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But since you asked, Nisan 1 (aka Abib 1), the start of the Israelite year per Exodus (Shemot) 11:2, is going to be on March 21.

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Re: When will dand124 see a shrink for his stalking problem?

Posted by Dave on Fri Mar 13 21:39:11 2015, in response to Re: When will dand124 see a shrink for his stalking problem?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 19:37:07 2015.

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There are four Jewish New Year's.

Nisan 1 corresponds to the season of the redemption from Egypt and the birth of the Israelite nation. This event defines the nature of the New Year celebrated that day. The Torah's command that "this month [Nisan] is for you the beginning of the months, it shall be the first month of the year to you" tied all counting of Jewish religious festivals to the Exodus from Egypt, and this special religious counting system distinguished Israel from other nations.

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Re: When does Olog Hashanah start this year?

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 13 22:26:41 2015, in response to When does Olog Hashanah start this year?, posted by dAnd124 on Fri Mar 13 19:28:21 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How come you did not thread about the Univision host canned for making racist comments about Michelle Obama?

How come you did not thread about the two Latino gangsters in Cook County who were sentenced to a long prison sentence for shooting another Latino?



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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 23:08:48 2015, in response to Re: When does Olog Hashanah start this year?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 13 22:26:41 2015.

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Doesn't fit his narrative.

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Re: tard

Posted by dAnd124 on Sat Mar 14 16:45:04 2015, in response to , posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 23:08:48 2015.

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what narrative?

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Re: When does Olog Hashanah start this year?

Posted by dAnd124 on Sat Mar 14 16:45:23 2015, in response to Re: When does Olog Hashanah start this year?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 13 22:26:41 2015.

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thanks for attacking

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Re:gression

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 14 18:37:16 2015, in response to Re: tard, posted by dAnd124 on Sat Mar 14 16:45:04 2015.

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Same old liberal narrative you push.

Can't provide a proper answer, you evade or call names. Typical liberal you are.

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Re: When does Rosh HaShanah start this year?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 14 18:40:56 2015, in response to Re: When does Olog Hashanah start this year?, posted by dAnd124 on Sat Mar 14 16:45:23 2015.

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Oh, don't feel sorry for yourself now.

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Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Dec 1 14:02:56 2015, in response to Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 13 04:02:26 2013.

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bump

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Re: When does Olog Hashanah start this year?

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 1 18:59:48 2015, in response to When does Olog Hashanah start this year?, posted by dAnd124 on Fri Mar 13 19:28:21 2015.

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You've had a note written in blood taped to the wall for over 2.5 years just to say that to bump this thread didn't you?

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What day does Olog Hashanah start ths year? Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by DAND124 on Fri Apr 1 22:29:32 2016, in response to Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 13 04:02:26 2013.

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Or has it already started?

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Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 1 22:57:27 2016, in response to What day does Olog Hashanah start ths year? Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by DAND124 on Fri Apr 1 22:29:32 2016.

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  1. According to Shemot 12:2 and the calendar, April 9.
  2. You need to get mental help. Can you think of absolutely nothing but me?


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Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 1 23:00:11 2016, in response to Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 1 22:57:27 2016.

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Aw, you're just jealous because bingbong has more "fans" than you do. :)

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Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 1 23:04:49 2016, in response to Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 1 23:00:11 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well yes, more people that put her name in the thread title. That is true. But not with stalker-like demeanors.

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Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 1 23:21:08 2016, in response to Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 1 23:04:49 2016.

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The only thin more stalkier than R2D2 is cattle corn. :)

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Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 2 00:33:09 2016, in response to Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 1 22:57:27 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
If you really were following the Torah, you'd know that the correct date for the start of the month should be based on the lunar cycle. Consequently, you should have linked to an astronomical observation site.

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Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 2 10:19:20 2016, in response to Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 1 23:21:08 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You seem to be somewhat obsessed. Perhaps you have an unrequited man crush or could you simply be trawling for men to help you out with the little woman?

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Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 2 10:42:41 2016, in response to Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 2 10:19:20 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Go right ahead and prove him right, why don't you?

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Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 2 12:29:32 2016, in response to Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 2 10:42:41 2016.

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Why not. He's already proven me right. How tall are you?

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Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 2 12:52:39 2016, in response to Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 2 12:29:32 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No he hasn't. Only shows how much reading comprehension (is that too big a word?) you lack.

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Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Apr 2 12:56:49 2016, in response to Re: Swedish woman call police on date because man revenge farted, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 2 12:52:39 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How tall are you?

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Re: What day does Olog Hashanah start ths year? Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by DAND124 on Sun Jun 5 19:56:03 2016, in response to What day does Olog Hashanah start ths year? Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by DAND124 on Fri Apr 1 22:29:32 2016.

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bump

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Re: What day does Olog Hashanah start ths year? Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jun 5 19:59:12 2016, in response to Re: What day does Olog Hashanah start ths year? Re: Yesterday was supposed to be Rosh Hashanah, posted by DAND124 on Sun Jun 5 19:56:03 2016.

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You have yourself a classic there yunno.

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