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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 10:13:41 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 09:45:13 2014.

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Fox News is conservative, the rest are liberal.

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:14:25 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Mar 4 01:51:21 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Air Liners never flew with the cockpit doors open. The hijackers had a box cutter to the throat of one of the stewardess' to gain entry. So now, what else do you do?
How many flights per day are there leaving US Airports?
How many international flights arrive in the US every day?
How many commercial US airports are there?

The idea that Bush should have been able to defend against such an attack is as ridiculous as Bill Clinton should have anticipated the first World Trade Center attack based on Oklahoma City.

Now, perhaps if the CIA and FBI were allowed to share intelligence on terrorists, more details may have made the attack somewhat more preventable but Jamie Goerlick made that impossible.


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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:16:25 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 3 13:53:52 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Brooklyn Tech, Bronx Science and Stuyvesant all rely on a single entrance exam - only.

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 10:16:37 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 4 09:58:17 2014.

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And you're toothpaste.

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:18:05 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 09:41:59 2014.

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"WABB" is redundant when referring to one of her posts.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:23:06 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 3 11:32:50 2014.

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ok i was wrong

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 10:27:17 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 10:13:41 2014.

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Fox News is barely conservative these days.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 10:29:25 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 10:13:41 2014.

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Too bad for conservative media.

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 10:30:53 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:16:25 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Exactly.

Also they've added three new schools to the exam.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:33:07 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 10:27:17 2014.

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Wrong! Fox has democratic strategists and other Liberals in almost equal numbers to Conservative & Republicans when the discussion is political. The very fact that the debates are equally weighted on both sides, means that they are seen as unfairly Conservative to the extremist liberals. (A truly fair debate to a liberal is 2 liberals discussing how stupid Conservatives are. )

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 4 10:33:58 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 3 23:12:54 2014.

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The Bush administration was warned by the FBI and intelligence officials that something was afoot during the summer of 2001. Osama Bin Laden was identified by name as the mastermind behind the plot.

Several 9/11 hijackers took flying lessons, and when it became clear that these individuals weren't interested in learning how to land a plane, their instructors became sufficiently suspicious, that they put their concerns in writing. The FBI was also apprised of this, and of Zacarias Moussoui's (the "20th hijacker") activities (he was investigated by the Minneapolis field office), but all that went by the boards.

The signs were there.

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:34:09 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 10:30:53 2014.

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I assume that the new Tech School in the Bronx is one?

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 10:34:25 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 3 11:32:50 2014.

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Even if it were, there are non-observant Jews.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 10:34:47 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:33:07 2014.

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They still have a majority of RINOs posing as conservatives. The course correction in 2011 tilted things towards the left.

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 10:36:21 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:34:09 2014.

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I don't know. I haven't followed it that closely. But I know that now they have schools in all five boroughs.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:37:19 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 10:34:25 2014.

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but CMM isn't one. or at least he doesn't talk like one.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 10:37:49 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:37:19 2014.

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Yes, he is.

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:40:40 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 4 10:33:58 2014.

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Yes and they didn't learn to fly in 8 months. Those same hijackers were learning to fly while Clinton was in office. BUT even armed with that knowledge, what do you do? Do you arrest every foreign national, in this country legally, for taking flying lessons? Is there a law against it? How long do you have them under surveillance? We'de have the ACLU complaining about harassment and the liberal left calling the Bush Administration, Paranoid.

And the alleged 20th hijacker? What flight was he on? Perhaps he was dropped from the plan when they realized that he was being watched. What would you have done? Arrest him? Water Board him to find out why someone who was in this country legally was legally taking flying lessons?

Why didn't Clinton have the 1st World Trade Center Bombers arrested when they rented the truck?

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:41:50 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 10:37:49 2014.

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hasn't he criticized other Jews for supporting abortion rights because it goes against judaism

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:43:07 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:37:19 2014.

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And what are your qualifications that allow you to judge if a specific person is of a given religion and the extent of their devotion to that religion?

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:44:45 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:43:07 2014.

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im not.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:49:23 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:44:45 2014.

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Then why engage in it? It's one thing to disagree or criticize ones politics. Criticizing how a person practices their religion is going too far.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:50:45 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:49:23 2014.

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i wasn't criticizing i was just confused.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 4 10:51:01 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:49:23 2014.

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Not for him.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:56:06 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:50:45 2014.

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You'd be better off minding your own business about how others practice their religion.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 11:08:19 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:41:50 2014.

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That's his excuse but it appears he's opposed to Judaism for different reasons altogether.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 4 11:46:12 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:56:06 2014.

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+1

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 4 11:55:19 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 3 18:34:49 2014.

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Say it ain't so!

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 4 12:17:15 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 4 11:46:12 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
+0

If you trace back the thread, it all originated from dand124 being surprised that CMM doesn't know Hebrew. That's not an inquiry so intrusive as to deserve admonishment, even though his train of thought was a bit odd.



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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 4 13:11:38 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:41:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
hasn't he criticized other Jews for supporting abortion rights because it goes against judaism

He has, except:

- Abortion rights aren't against Judaism
- Posting on Shabbos is.

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 4 13:53:31 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 10:40:40 2014.

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Funny thing, facts. You're confusing the usual suspects here, TD.

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Re: Obama says You caUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 4 13:55:04 2014, in response to Re: Obama says You caUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 09:12:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Correct. The Tea Party is full of anti-semites, Irwin. And if brains were a source of gunpowder, Sarah Palin wouldn't have enough to blow her nose.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 14:23:30 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 10:41:50 2014.

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OK, I am now criticizing it.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 14:24:17 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 4 13:11:38 2014.

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I'm not perfect.

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 14:26:49 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 4 11:55:19 2014.

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Have you ever bet on wrestling?

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Re: Obama says You caUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 14:28:07 2014, in response to Re: Obama says You caUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 4 13:55:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"The Tea Party is full of anti-semites" No it is not. Proof?

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Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached

Posted by train dude on Tue Mar 4 14:31:33 2014, in response to Re: Israeli National Suicide Deal Reached, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 4 12:17:15 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That may be where it began but it drift in an offensive direction.

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Re: Obama says You caUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 15:00:35 2014, in response to Re: Obama says You caUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 14:28:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The Tea Party Movement's Jewish Problem

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:24:58 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 4 09:30:38 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Who's getting defensive? I'm laughing at how silly the whole thing is. AND that the silliness continues after 6 years now.

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:26:37 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 4 09:31:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wait ... wut? That look on his face with that beer looks Muslim somehow? And the AME's have now become "Supremacist?" LOL! You guys are too much. :)

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Re: Obama says You caUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 15:29:58 2014, in response to Re: Obama says You caUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 15:00:35 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I have attended several Tea Party rallies, I have yet to find any racists.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:39:34 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 09:45:13 2014.

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And my primary point is that they changed the entire rules for journalism, forcing the others to compete on the same acrid level for viewers. The nonsense that FOX News created, passing opinion off as journalism, is now the gold standard of reporting everywhere and it absolutely sucks.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:40:41 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 10:13:41 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And right there is the problem. Journalism is neither conservative nor liberal, it's SUPPOSED to be the flat out witnessing of events and documenting same. That ANY news leans in ANY direction is WRONG.

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 15:44:10 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:39:34 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well the rest of mainstream media sucks.

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:46:44 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 08:54:05 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
She's an attention whore. Get over it.

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:47:22 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 09:07:56 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well then ... carry on. They must be SHJ's too then.

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:52:07 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 09:08:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Let's take a look at that leap of logic there then ... no surprise that it eludes Olog. So since Olog weighed in, I just gotta. :)

Assuming that Obama actually *is* an antisemite, you reject him anyway and already have on that very basis. So here comes Sarah Palin, someone you've got up on a pedestal like Kahane, and it turns out she's not all that a friend of Jews. Your response? Trying to verify for yourself that Obama is an antisemite and ignoring Palin.

OK ... I'm used to conservative "logic" ... see it here all the time. :-\

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Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:54:05 2014, in response to Re: Obama saysUS can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 4 09:49:09 2014.

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It's looking to me as though if you're not a Jew, you ain't shit. :(

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Re: Obama threatens Israel

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:07:04 2014, in response to Re: Obama threatens Israel, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:40:41 2014.

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I agree. But you do agree that the mainstream media in this country tends to be liberal.

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Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 4 16:10:46 2014, in response to Re: Obama says US can't help Israel If Peace Talks Fail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 4 15:46:44 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
She's got more class and integerity than you. Get over it.

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